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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 21, 2019 21:37:47 GMT -5
No, ya, you gotta send Camargo to AAA, he has options. It's already pretty clear that's what the Braves are gonna do. Culberson and Joyce are used almost every day; that means something.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 21, 2019 23:54:53 GMT -5
I might be mad about sending Camargo down, but if Snit refuses to play him other than as a pinch runner and Ender can at least offer that and late inning defense and a backup where we have no other, then do it.
At this point it doesn't matter what Camargo "could do". What matters is what he is doing and that is basically nothing. I'm not saying it's right, but if Ender would be allowed to actually participate in some area that might make a difference, I'll take it over the guy who management won't let play. We are playing with 24 men right now.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 22, 2019 0:06:18 GMT -5
I wonder why no media personalities have the balls to ask Snitker why he's treated Camargo this way. He made the statement in spring training about starting him 3-4 times per week, we had guys slumping for long periods of time and Johan still kept getting less and less playing time. Somebody make Snitker address it and speak to it, make him own whatever the hell is going on. I realize we'll get the "he wasn't swinging the bat well" nonsense and all of our media will say yeah that's right when they do send Camargo down, and that's ridiculous.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 22, 2019 8:17:23 GMT -5
No one in Atlanta sports media will ask any tough questions. They are all afraid the drink cart wont make it to the back row of the plane on the next road trip if they do.
I sure would like to hear the answer... He actually starts to hit and they diminish his role even further.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 9:35:46 GMT -5
Could you make a deal where you package Ender, Camargo and Allard in a deal? Maybe add another mid to lower level prospect and who?
We do need another SP cause I see them going to the 6 man rotation and it makes sense to protect the workload of Soroka and Fried - do not need to be done what Washington did with Strasburg in 2012 sitting him out the entire post season
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 9:41:56 GMT -5
No one in Atlanta sports media will ask any tough questions. They are all afraid the drink cart wont make it to the back row of the plane on the next road trip if they do. I sure would like to hear the answer... He actually starts to hit and they diminish his role even further. That includes both the AJC and the talking heads who tend to be all over the place anyway The sports talk, for one thing they stray away from sports and do a bunch of schtick I don't need a comedian like Mike Bell who to me is the most annoying of the bunch About the only one who seems to bring up challenging issues is Kincaide on the 680 station - The game is a little better though they could do less schtick. Bell is the only one there who really annoys me - only reason to listen to 680 is when the Braves are playing and I will listen to Buck and Kincaide
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 9:44:46 GMT -5
One good thing about a somewhat passive media, they sure were able to keep a secret about the plans to build Sun Trust and the Battery in Cobb Co.
You think that would have happened in a sports crazed city like NY, Philly or Boston or even Chicago? Or the West Coast cities for that matter - that came out of no where and in the end that was for the best - it worked out fine
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 22, 2019 12:59:11 GMT -5
Could you make a deal where you package Ender, Camargo and Allard in a deal? Maybe add another mid to lower level prospect and who? We do need another SP cause I see them going to the 6 man rotation and it makes sense to protect the workload of Soroka and Fried - do not need to be done what Washington did with Strasburg in 2012 sitting him out the entire post season Inciarte/Camargo/Allard is 96.60 in Total Value; that's a lot. Based on the trade simulator, you can pretty much get almost any pitcher you want. In fact, you'd get a haul, if a team values that package similar to how the trade simulator does. In fact, based on what you said, the Braves could get this. Reds get: Inciarte Camargo Allard Braves get: Jesse Winker Sonny Gray Amir Garrett Raisel Iglesias Braves could bench Markakis, add a starter, a solid lefty reliever, and a closer.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 22, 2019 13:02:48 GMT -5
No one in Atlanta sports media will ask any tough questions. They are all afraid the drink cart wont make it to the back row of the plane on the next road trip if they do. I sure would like to hear the answer... He actually starts to hit and they diminish his role even further. Exactly. Very curious. You can’t help but think it’s personal for whatever reason. I will say it was telling when Snitker said in spring training he was 95% sure Camargo would make the team. I think Snitker always saw him as an ok player as long as we didn’t have what he thought was a better option. Snitker doesn’t look at stats so he has no clue how strong of a season Camargo had last year on both sides of the ball. But I thought we were supposed to have some analytic leanings now, so somebody should have explained it to Snitker.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 22, 2019 13:04:17 GMT -5
Could you make a deal where you package Ender, Camargo and Allard in a deal? Maybe add another mid to lower level prospect and who? We do need another SP cause I see them going to the 6 man rotation and it makes sense to protect the workload of Soroka and Fried - do not need to be done what Washington did with Strasburg in 2012 sitting him out the entire post season Inciarte/Camargo/Allard is 96.60 in Total Value; that's a lot. Based on the trade simulator, you can pretty much get almost any pitcher you want. In fact, you'd get a haul, if a team values that package similar to how the trade simulator does. In fact, based on what you said, the Braves could get this. Reds get: Inciarte Camargo Allard Braves get: Jesse Winker Sonny Gray Amir Garrett Raisel Iglesias Braves could bench Markakis, add a starter, a solid lefty reliever, and a closer. Snitkers not benching Nick, that’s his idol.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 22, 2019 13:06:56 GMT -5
Inciarte/Camargo/Allard is 96.60 in Total Value; that's a lot. Based on the trade simulator, you can pretty much get almost any pitcher you want. In fact, you'd get a haul, if a team values that package similar to how the trade simulator does. In fact, based on what you said, the Braves could get this. Reds get: Inciarte Camargo Allard Braves get: Jesse Winker Sonny Gray Amir Garrett Raisel Iglesias Braves could bench Markakis, add a starter, a solid lefty reliever, and a closer. Snitkers not benching Nick, that’s his idol. Then he's a retard. The only argument for playing Nick is because they don't really have a better option. If the Braves got Winker, he'd have a better option.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 22, 2019 13:09:05 GMT -5
Snitkers not benching Nick, that’s his idol. Then he's a retard. The only argument for playing Nick is because they don't really have a better option. If the Braves got Winker, he'd have a better option. Camargo in RF was a better option.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 22, 2019 13:14:56 GMT -5
Then he's a retard. The only argument for playing Nick is because they don't really have a better option. If the Braves got Winker, he'd have a better option. Camargo in RF was a better option. He's not clearly a better option. Winker is clearly a better option.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 22, 2019 13:53:44 GMT -5
Could you make a deal where you package Ender, Camargo and Allard in a deal? Maybe add another mid to lower level prospect and who? We do need another SP cause I see them going to the 6 man rotation and it makes sense to protect the workload of Soroka and Fried - do not need to be done what Washington did with Strasburg in 2012 sitting him out the entire post season Inciarte/Camargo/Allard is 96.60 in Total Value; that's a lot. Based on the trade simulator, you can pretty much get almost any pitcher you want. In fact, you'd get a haul, if a team values that package similar to how the trade simulator does. In fact, based on what you said, the Braves could get this. Reds get: Inciarte Camargo Allard Braves get: Jesse Winker Sonny Gray Amir Garrett Raisel Iglesias Braves could bench Markakis, add a starter, a solid lefty reliever, and a closer. The thing is though is that I don't think real MLB teams make a lot of decisions purely based on matching value numbers. I bet there is no way in holy hell that the Reds would make that trade.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 22, 2019 14:00:55 GMT -5
Inciarte/Camargo/Allard is 96.60 in Total Value; that's a lot. Based on the trade simulator, you can pretty much get almost any pitcher you want. In fact, you'd get a haul, if a team values that package similar to how the trade simulator does. In fact, based on what you said, the Braves could get this. Reds get: Inciarte Camargo Allard Braves get: Jesse Winker Sonny Gray Amir Garrett Raisel Iglesias Braves could bench Markakis, add a starter, a solid lefty reliever, and a closer. The thing is though is that I don't think real MLB teams make a lot of decisions purely based on matching value numbers. I bet there is no way in holy hell that the Reds would make that trade. It depends. Some teams value financial flexibility. I'm not saying this is a deal that would happen, because the total value says so. I'm saying it could happen, as the numbers match up. There's dozens of reasons why this deal could go down, and a dozen reasons why it wouldn't go down. It's interesting that under the right circumstances, this deal could happen. Maybe the Reds are super high on Camargo, maybe they see something in Allard, maybe they would like to have Gold Glove defense, at a cheap price. I mean, we're talking about a team that had Billy Hamilton in CF for multiple years. Having a "bat first" CFer doesn't really seem like it's a must for them.
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