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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 24, 2019 22:31:05 GMT -5
I agree but I don't see us giving up JD to do it. They will continue to mix and match pieces and shop the discount bin. I do expect another move and it very well could involve Ender, but I don't see it involving anyone on the 25 right now.
Ender and/or Duval would be where I would look. Duval with some success at the MLB level is a piece with enough upside to make someone give up a pen arm. He may be the piece that'll bring you the best return.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 24, 2019 23:01:15 GMT -5
I agree but I don't see us giving up JD to do it. They will continue to mix and match pieces and shop the discount bin. I do expect another move and it very well could involve Ender, but I don't see it involving anyone on the 25 right now. Ender and/or Duval would be where I would look. Duval with some success at the MLB level is a piece with enough upside to make someone give up a pen arm. He may be the piece that'll bring you the best return. Yeah I've pretty much said all of that a couple of times in this tread myself. I got off the rails with the trading JD comment, but like I said there's zero chance of that happening.
But going through the discount bin isn't going to hold up for the whole season either, it hasn't been working and it's not going to get us there, so something has to give. I supported AA's bullpen plan coming into the season, but it fell apart for a bunch of reasons. I can't support what little we've done to address it at this point. So we're going to have to give something that hurts a little or just continue with the same Blevins/Minter/Carle/Venters cycle, and doing that would be a recipe for disaster. So I'm willing to part with some depth, that's better than prospects or Camargo in my opinion. And the prime "depth" pieces right now are Ender and Duvall. Heck, even if we just trade one of them and sign Kimbrel it makes a huge difference.
One thing I wonder......has anybody heard ANYTHING about Gohara? Why the tight lipped secrecy regarding him, I mean there's literally NOTHING on him anywhere.
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Post by keystone61 on May 24, 2019 23:09:22 GMT -5
Badhaircut will help this team win before all is said and done, IMO. My feelings about the guy are no secret, but he is a damn good 3rd baseman, and I think his bat will come alive. I love what Riley has done, but I don't think it's quite time to bank on him yet. Ender for defense, pinch running, and spot starts is fine. He just can't be an everyday player if we have postseason aspirations.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 24, 2019 23:14:11 GMT -5
Badhaircut will help this team win before all is said and done, IMO. My feelings about the guy are no secret, but he is a damn good 3rd baseman, and I think his bat will come alive. I love what Riley has done, but I don't think it's quite time to bank on him yet. Ender for defense, pinch running, and spot starts is fine. He just can't be an everyday player if we have postseason aspirations. How do we go about addressing the pen? By keeping Ender for defense and pinch running and spot starts, then we have to axe somebody from the roster. Most people have suggested doing that by using one less bullpen guy. Which would them make the pen a little weaker, wouldn't it? If we don't use one less bullpen guy, who do we get rid of? My guess would be Joyce, seems like the most obvious choice.
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Post by keystone61 on May 24, 2019 23:20:06 GMT -5
Badhaircut will help this team win before all is said and done, IMO. My feelings about the guy are no secret, but he is a damn good 3rd baseman, and I think his bat will come alive. I love what Riley has done, but I don't think it's quite time to bank on him yet. Ender for defense, pinch running, and spot starts is fine. He just can't be an everyday player if we have postseason aspirations. How do we go about addressing the pen? By keeping Ender for defense and pinch running and spot starts, then we have to axe somebody from the roster. Most people have suggested doing that by using one less bullpen guy. Which would them make the pen a little weaker, wouldn't it? If we don't use one less bullpen guy, who do we get rid of? My guess would be Joyce, seems like the most obvious choice. Joyce is the most likely, IMO. If we sign Kimbrel that's another roster move, and that almost has to be a pitcher. I guess a lot hinges on how Riley performs long-term.
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Post by brady2705 on May 25, 2019 7:14:38 GMT -5
Once Ender is ready to come back up, I'm curious where Riley will be, performance-wise.
We know he's been hotter than the sun for over a month now -- good as he is, that degree of *hot* isn't sustainable. Couple normal regression with the fact that he is striking out quite a bit and not walking, there's a reasonable chance he could head into a deep slump shortly as MLB pitchers begin adjusting to him.
If that's the case, the move may be to bring Ender back and send Riley back down, knowing from this cup of coffee what he needs to go work on to be ready for a full-time promotion in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 19:16:02 GMT -5
First, get Ender healthy and then we can see who might be interested in him
Teams generally do not like to trade for injured players per Dan O Dowd from mlb network - makes sense
No rush - and we know that Riley will cool off at some point but I would be interested as to what adjustments Riley makes once he faces adversity -- I would not want to send him down under almost any circumstances at this point
The kid needs experience and has to learn to face some MLB adverisity as he develops
Organization depth is a good thing -- and no rush to do anything w/Ender till he is totally right
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 1, 2019 8:01:23 GMT -5
First, get Ender healthy and then we can see who might be interested in him Teams generally do not like to trade for injured players per Dan O Dowd from mlb network - makes sense
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 1, 2019 10:57:39 GMT -5
Guy should be running a franchise with takes like that. Lol.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 1, 2019 19:11:37 GMT -5
I say keep Ender and see how much salary we have to eat to rid ourselves of the Badhaircut mistake. I thought he might eventually help us, but not so sure now. We can platoon Ender and Camargo or Culberson. We'd be a better team. IMO. I know Riley will come back to earth, and that he's not gonna be as good at 3rd as the bringer, but the bringer just doesn't fit on this team, and he actually looks like he's pretty much washed up at this point. There's what, about $15 million of his salary left? I bet you could get somebody to pick up half of it, hoping he gets hot.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 1, 2019 20:44:09 GMT -5
Riley is actually a good defensive third baseman, and JD has been the same on defense as offense, all or nothing. I’d be all for moving him but I’d give it a zero percent chance of happening.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 1, 2019 21:19:07 GMT -5
Riley is actually a good defensive third baseman, and JD has been the same on defense as offense, all or nothing. I’d be all for moving him but I’d give it a zero percent chance of happening. Riley will regress, obviously, but with his power, I think he's a run producer if he hits .240, and he's never had an average that low. Third base is a run producing position, so he should be fine. Point being, we don't need Badhaircut and we never did. I still can't believe we signed him and screwed Camargo. So stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:54:19 GMT -5
Agree with the idea that moving JD and keeping Ender is the better idea
Never hated the idea of Donaldson for one year, but how did we know that Riley would be ready so soon. As for Camargo, he has not done it this yr, would not mind a deal with JD and Camargo together for starters if it returns what the Braves need
Of course we need Ender healthy, his defensive value in CF is missed, Acuna has potential for center, but the experience Ender has in running the OF is missed. When Ender is on offensively, and he is around a league average offensive producer, he has a valuable allaround game - no rush to move him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:55:28 GMT -5
Riley is actually a good defensive third baseman, and JD has been the same on defense as offense, all or nothing. I’d be all for moving him but I’d give it a zero percent chance of happening. JD will be moved in the off season for sure. At least it was for one yr
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 3, 2019 0:30:29 GMT -5
Moved implies we will do something with him. We won't really be doing that as he will be a FA.
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