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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 22, 2019 2:50:38 GMT -5
"You have to roll with the who's starting, and who has a better chance of being as good, or better, than they were last year."
Hmmmm. Yes. And how do we go about deciding that?
Spring training should play a part in that, we'll see how that goes.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Feb 22, 2019 6:59:18 GMT -5
I don't take a difference in opinion personally, but I don't think a player has to be a snowflake to perform differently in situations where the batter mentality is often different, and pitchers take different approaches with different people following the batter in question. I alao don't deny the human element within this game. These players are not robots with a completely programmed mentality that is an algorithm. Comfort and confidence in a particular spot is a real thing. I played sports through the college level and have seen players time and time again perform differently when surrounding circumstances have changed. Statistical splits are also available that show actual results in different circumstances and while correlation vs causation can not be emperically "proven", nor can the possibility of correlation be automatically discredited.
I feel however that maybe the question I posed is being muddled here. I just simple want to know how long does Snitker give it if other players at leadoff and Acuña down in the lineup isn't working. My guess is Snit wouldn't just say correlation does not equal causation and stick with the same thing all year. Plenty of evidence out there that he and almost every manager in the league move the same people around in a lineup to try and get different results.
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Post by brady2705 on Feb 22, 2019 8:36:47 GMT -5
I don't take a difference in opinion personally, but I don't think a player has to be a snowflake to perform differently in situations where the batter mentality is often different, and pitchers take different approaches with different people following the batter in question. I alao don't deny the human element within this game. These players are not robots with a completely programmed mentality that is an algorithm. Comfort and confidence in a particular spot is a real thing. I played sports through the college level and have seen players time and time again perform differently when surrounding circumstances have changed. Statistical splits are also available that show actual results in different circumstances and while correlation vs causation can not be emperically "proven", nor can the possibility of correlation be automatically discredited. I feel however that maybe the question I posed is being muddled here. I just simple want to know how long does Snitker give it if other players at leadoff and Acuña down in the lineup isn't working. My guess is Snit wouldn't just say correlation does not equal causation and stick with the same thing all year. Plenty of evidence out there that he and almost every manager in the league move the same people around in a lineup to try and get different results. I mean, I would say coming out of ST if neither Albies or Inciarte are demonstrating they can bat leadoff, I'd stick Acuna back up there. For all my arguments, I'm not terribly concerned about Acuna batting 1st -- I'm more concerned about him batting 4th, which is what the writers have all suggested Snit and AA have alluded to. If I follow your argument to it's conclusion, we've seen players who adapt their style based on lineup placement, and it ruins them. Case example would be Heyward-esque, he's often criticised his move to leadoff as changing his approach at the plate, and his power has never recovered. Now, Acuna has already proven he won't abandon power when he bats leadoff, so I'm not worried about him ... But I would be worried about him batting cleanup. If he starts selling out for the long ball, it could really be detrimental to his development.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Feb 22, 2019 11:26:09 GMT -5
My concern as well about dropping him down... especially to cleanup.
Plus I don't have faith yet in Oz at leadoff and Inciarte has a proven record of 2 month long cold starts... hence the concern.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Feb 22, 2019 11:45:55 GMT -5
My concern as well about dropping him down... especially to cleanup. Plus I don't have faith yet in Oz at leadoff and Inciarte has a proven record of 2 montlong cold starts... hence the concern. My fear is that if Acuna bats leadoff and Donaldson second, then Snit will stick Neck at cleanup.
Now, if Albies looks more like the 1st half Albies in ST, I would not hesitate to go:
LF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman 3B Donaldson RF Markakis (with Riley as a potential replacement if he can handle the OF) C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson CF Inciarte
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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 22, 2019 13:16:22 GMT -5
We all know in our hearts to expect Inciarte to come out of the gate hitting leadoff. Snitker thinks he looks like one of those baseball leadoff hitter guys.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Feb 22, 2019 22:58:43 GMT -5
"You have to roll with the who's starting, and who has a better chance of being as good, or better, than they were last year."
Hmmmm. Yes. And how do we go about deciding that?
Spring training should play a part in that, we'll see how that goes.
Yup, that’s why I’d like to see Snit roll out the lineup I proposed.
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Post by akod on Apr 8, 2019 22:24:46 GMT -5
I don’t want to jinx it but I’m going to jinx it. It may be time for that lineup we all hoped and dreamed for...
Albies Swanson Freeman Acuna
Let JD get his crap together batting 5th.
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