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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 25, 2019 9:21:31 GMT -5
tomahawktake.com/2019/01/25/what-would-the-current-lineup-look-like-for-the-2019-braves/
So, now that we are pretty much set on the position player side of things, how would you guys construct the lineup(s) for 2019? Here's my thought on how to maximize the players we have:
v. RHP CF Inciarte 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman LF Acuna RF Markakis 2B Albies C McCann SS Swanson
v. LHP 2B Albies 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman CF Acuna LF Duvall RF Markakis C Flowers SS Swanson
I like the idea of having a speed guy at the top who can get on a disrupt things ahead of the bigger bats. I also like a power guy behind Freeman. Now, I know that this will cause some of the analytic people to blow a gasket because Inciarte and Albies would get more ABs than Acuna, but I really can't see anyone else in the cleanup spot, especially since we chose to go with Nick over a power hitting corner OF.
Thoughts?
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Post by akod on Jan 25, 2019 10:56:00 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mess with Acuna. Keep him at leadoff, he thrived there and the transitive property doesn’t always apply in these cases. The human element is a factor, the AL MVP was a leadoff hitter.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 25, 2019 11:17:49 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mess with Acuna. Keep him at leadoff, he thrived there and the transitive property doesn’t always apply in these cases. The human element is a factor, the AL MVP was a leadoff hitter. I get what you are saying, but let's say 2 of the first 3 guys in the order get on in a given inning - who do you want up - Acuna or Markakis? Cause if we go Acuna, Donaldson, Freeman as many have suggested, he's probably the de facto cleanup hitter.
Personally, I'd rather see Acuna up there with a chance to do some serious damage.
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 25, 2019 12:03:29 GMT -5
I just wanna see Freddie get more rest, so hopefully he can find power deep into the season
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 25, 2019 12:10:02 GMT -5
I just wanna see Freddie get more rest, so hopefully he can find power deep into the season Agree. The problem is the Braves only have two players with more than 10 games of ML experience at 1B - McCann and Duvall. So it's not like we have a guy like Matt Adams who we could naturally slide into that position.
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Post by akod on Jan 25, 2019 12:37:50 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mess with Acuna. Keep him at leadoff, he thrived there and the transitive property doesn’t always apply in these cases. The human element is a factor, the AL MVP was a leadoff hitter. I get what you are saying, but let's say 2 of the first 3 guys in the order get on in a given inning - who do you want up - Acuna or Markakis? Cause if we go Acuna, Donaldson, Freeman as many have suggested, he's probably the de facto cleanup hitter.
Personally, I'd rather see Acuna up there with a chance to do some serious damage.
Look if we can get the leadoff Acuna to hit the same way in the cleanup spot then not a soul will argue with you. However that hasn’t been proven out yet. Let the guy stay where he is an play with it later in the season. He certainly pressed in RBI situations last year before taking the lead off spot. You can argue he was adjusting to the mlb but the pressure was certainly a factor. If it ain’t broke... I’m more worried about getting someone developing into our Benintendi. We have our version of Betts and Martinez.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 25, 2019 12:42:46 GMT -5
Why is Donaldson consider a #2 hitter instead of a #4 hitter?
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 25, 2019 12:44:46 GMT -5
Why is Donaldson consider a #2 hitter instead of a #4 hitter? Because they’d want him to get the most at bats possible. Same reason you wouldn’t hit the pitcher lead off.
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 25, 2019 12:45:20 GMT -5
I just wanna see Freddie get more rest, so hopefully he can find power deep into the season Agree. The problem is the Braves only have two players with more than 10 games of ML experience at 1B - McCann and Duvall. So it's not like we have a guy like Matt Adams who we could naturally slide into that position. Neck could probably play some first.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 25, 2019 13:15:39 GMT -5
Agree. The problem is the Braves only have two players with more than 10 games of ML experience at 1B - McCann and Duvall. So it's not like we have a guy like Matt Adams who we could naturally slide into that position. Neck could probably play some first. I would think Camargo would be a better option than Neck.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 25, 2019 13:37:54 GMT -5
Why is Donaldson consider a #2 hitter instead of a #4 hitter? Because they’d want him to get the most at bats possible. Same reason you wouldn’t hit the pitcher lead off. Makes no sense. He's gonna take pitches with Acuna on base? I mean, I can see having Freddie hitting behind him, but he doesn't strike me as a #2 hitter.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 25, 2019 13:41:48 GMT -5
Because they’d want him to get the most at bats possible. Same reason you wouldn’t hit the pitcher lead off. Makes no sense. He's gonna take pitches with Acuna on base? I mean, I can see having Freddie hitting behind him, but he doesn't strike me as a #2 hitter. This is the trend in baseball now, and no these guys aren't going to be taking pitches. The Cardinals are planning on batting Goldschmidt second, Trout usually hits second, I'm sure there are others too.
I read somewhere that getting your best hitters at the top of the order only creates 1 more win per season at best, but a lot of teams are doing it.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 25, 2019 13:50:09 GMT -5
Makes no sense. He's gonna take pitches with Acuna on base? I mean, I can see having Freddie hitting behind him, but he doesn't strike me as a #2 hitter. This is the trend in baseball now, and no these guys aren't going to be taking pitches. The Cardinals are planning on batting Goldschmidt second, Trout usually hits second, I'm sure there are others too.
I read somewhere that getting your best hitters at the top of the order only creates 1 more win per season at best, but a lot of teams are doing it.
Hell, nobody steals bases anymore these days anyhow.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 25, 2019 13:51:09 GMT -5
With Acuna's success at the top of the lineup, I am concerned about dropping him in the order. I get the rationale behind it, but I also saw what happened when we put him in the leadoff spot.
Same deal on Inciarte... Every year the first half of his season is decidedly mediocre, and we are just arbitrarily throwing him back up top?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 25, 2019 14:54:22 GMT -5
With Acuna's success at the top of the lineup, I am concerned about dropping him in the order. I get the rationale behind it, but I also saw what happened when we put him in the leadoff spot. Same deal on Inciarte... Every year the first half of his season is decidedly mediocre, and we are just arbitrarily throwing him back up top? Snitker thinks he looks like one of those baseball leadoff player guys.
I read somewhere the other day he was leaning towards putting him back in the leadoff spot. I'd rather have Acuna there considering what he did in the leadoff spot last year.
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