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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 2:07:59 GMT -5
I know this has been discussed in another tread, but I thought it deserved it's own tread.
I can see he isn't the most popular guy around here, based on what I'm reading, but you can't deny that he's a 5+ War player, and those guys don't grow on trees.
The question is, can the Braves afford him?
Last year the Braves had a payroll of $130 million. Right now it's $114 million, leaving only $16 million to play with, and clearly not enough to get Machado, but what if the Braves cleared some payroll?
If the Braves were able to trade Teheran and O'Day, that clears up an additional $20 million ($11 million for Teheran and $9 million for O'Day); that's $36 million right there.
I read that AA likes to keep some money available for mid-season acquisitions. I read $7 million, but I can't confirm that. Let's go ahead and call it $7 million; which drops available cash to $29 million. If the Braves trade Adam Duvall, that's nearly $3 million.
If Machado would sign for $30-31 million AAV, the Braves could afford it. Keeping in mind the possibility that the Braves could still run a payroll of $135 to $140 million.
Based on this, Machado is a possibility, but it's clear some things need to happen first for that to happen.
P.S.
I also find a possible deal for JTR involving Swanson to be very compelling.
All that being said, I find this entire scenario to be a bit far-fetched; there's just too many moving parts to make something like this happen. I'd give it a 10% chance of actually happening.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 26, 2019 2:30:54 GMT -5
he has a career wRC+ of 104 on the road, aside from being a colossal dbag.
I'd rather use the money for Kimbrel and other good players if it's truly there, which I find hard to believe.
It's too crippling for too long.
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Post by papabrave on Jan 26, 2019 6:36:23 GMT -5
If you looked at it this way, then i could see it happening! they are paying Donaldson $23 million this year. im assuming they are doing so to give Riley 1 more solid year of development. Next year we will have either Camargo or Riley or another low pay 3rd Baseman. With that being said, AA did say our payroll would in fact go up . As you said Last year was $130 million and we are at $116 million. if we raised our payroll an extra $10 million , it would be for 1 year for now and depending on how we do, would determine how much it actually is the coming years. Donaldsons $23 million will be gone. if we trade Teheran, i then see a Realmuto deal going nowhere unless it involves Swanson and a couple lesser prospects not named Anderson,Touki,Wright,Soroka, Riley. this would signal that all the love for our prospects will be what we live with because theyre our future rotation for the next 4-5 years. lets also remember that reports are that neither harper nor Machado are getting offers even close to Stantons deal . Lets say their AAV of his contract is $27 million , i think we could fit that into this years budget with the increased payroll that was promised. You also have to wonder if the article written this week might have a little to do with the rumors now. That article didnt paint a good picture on the front office. I also read someones tread here that said theyre probably using that extra unspent money to pay down debt. I highly doubt that. That money is already allocated for and they wouldnt say the revenues would go back into braves payroll or however they worded it with the expectation that the unspent money going to pay down debt. I think they are waiting in the wings to see machados real market value before making a decision. Under 30 million a year, theyre players in his services. Thats just my opinion. Let me edit to say , it could be possible to deal Swanson and Teheran together in a deal for Realmuto with the Braves giving up 1 top prospect with it to take teherans contract despite it not being a bad contract. Theran might not be bad in Miami thats a huge park and his problem is HRs
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 26, 2019 7:24:44 GMT -5
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 26, 2019 8:39:10 GMT -5
This is how most fans around baseball feel about both Machado and the GOAT, ergo they haven't been signed.
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Post by akod on Jan 26, 2019 12:09:34 GMT -5
The deeper this goes I’d say offer 1 year 40 mil. He doesn’t cost a draft pick and enters free agency again after a year of showing elite defense at third again without the prima donna bull.
We have to move Julio for relievers and O’day has to go. Even then liberty media would have to make an Ervin Santana exception. We will have to rely on the young guys as starters which means similar results to last year and maybe a step forward. Keeps our casual fans interested.
Next year after some advancement by our young staff but no clear ace we go after Sale, Cole, or Bum.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 12:24:52 GMT -5
he has a career wRC+ of 104 on the road, aside from being a colossal dbag.
I'd rather use the money for Kimbrel and other good players if it's truly there, which I find hard to believe.
It's too crippling for too long.
Well, if we do that, I wonder how many players you can find that are equally as good across all splits.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 26, 2019 12:56:42 GMT -5
he has a career wRC+ of 104 on the road, aside from being a colossal dbag.
I'd rather use the money for Kimbrel and other good players if it's truly there, which I find hard to believe.
It's too crippling for too long.
Well, if we do that, I wonder how many players you can find that are equally as good across all splits. Likely not one on his own, but almost certainly we’d come out ahead in the years where we were spreading that money across 2-3 good players. I’d rather have Pollock and Kimbrel than just Machado for example. And you’re talking about a lot of years. I’d take Bumgarner and Haniger over Machado. I’m not much of a fan so I’m biased but there’s plenty of valid reason not to do it. I think at least 27 MLB teams agree and I hope we’re one of them.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 12:58:34 GMT -5
Well, if we do that, I wonder how many players you can find that are equally as good across all splits. Likely not one on his own, but almost certainly we’d come out ahead in the years where we were spreading that money across 2-3 good players. I’d rather have Pollock and Kimbrel than just Machado for example. And you’re talking about a lot of years. I’d take Bumgarner and Haniger over Machado. I’m not much of a fan so I’m biased but there’s plenty of valid reason not to do it. I think at least 27 MLB teams agree and I hope we’re one of them. There's certainly multiple avenues the Braves can go down, but if I'm in the passenger seat and the drive tells me we're going down Machado Way, I'm not gonna complain about it.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 26, 2019 13:13:59 GMT -5
Likely not one on his own, but almost certainly we’d come out ahead in the years where we were spreading that money across 2-3 good players. I’d rather have Pollock and Kimbrel than just Machado for example. And you’re talking about a lot of years. I’d take Bumgarner and Haniger over Machado. I’m not much of a fan so I’m biased but there’s plenty of valid reason not to do it. I think at least 27 MLB teams agree and I hope we’re one of them. There's certainly multiple avenues the Braves can go down, but if I'm in the passenger seat and the drive tells me we're going down Machado Way, I'm not gonna complain about it. I would. I would shoot spitwads at the back of the driver's head.
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 26, 2019 13:26:04 GMT -5
When I think of Machado I see a picture of him Trying to step on Aguillar’s foot at first base. Reveals a quality of a person I would prefer not to see in a brave’s uniform
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Post by papabrave on Jan 26, 2019 14:03:45 GMT -5
The deeper this goes I’d say offer 1 year 40 mil. He doesn’t cost a draft pick and enters free agency again after a year of showing elite defense at third again without the prima donna bull. We have to move Julio for relievers and O’day has to go. Even then liberty media would have to make an Ervin Santana exception. We will have to rely on the young guys as starters which means similar results to last year and maybe a step forward. Keeps our casual fans interested. Next year after some advancement by our young staff but no clear ace we go after Sale, Cole, or Bum. Sale has a bum shoulder! Every year in Boston End of season he's had arm troubles . Not good !
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 14:04:00 GMT -5
There's certainly multiple avenues the Braves can go down, but if I'm in the passenger seat and the drive tells me we're going down Machado Way, I'm not gonna complain about it. I would. I would shoot spitwads at the back of the driver's head. Don’t make me turn this car around!
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 14:04:21 GMT -5
When I think of Machado I see a picture of him Trying to step on Aguillar’s foot at first base. Reveals a quality of a person I would prefer not to see in a brave’s uniform You always judge people based on a single instance?
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 26, 2019 14:53:18 GMT -5
A significant instance trying to injure another player while making millions playing a game IMO
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