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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 26, 2019 15:44:10 GMT -5
When I think of Machado I see a picture of him Trying to step on Aguillar’s foot at first base. Reveals a quality of a person I would prefer not to see in a brave’s uniform You always judge people based on a single instance? Lotta folks in prison share your sentiment
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 15:45:18 GMT -5
You always judge people based on a single instance? Lotta folks in prison share your sentiment Who’s the prisoner in this analogy? Me or Machado?
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 26, 2019 16:22:12 GMT -5
Someone in prison who is bemoaning judgement for a single incident
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Post by akod on Jan 26, 2019 16:22:57 GMT -5
You have a 50/50 shot of butt rape in this ANALogy
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 26, 2019 18:12:17 GMT -5
Someone in prison who is bemoaning judgement for a single incident I think you need to find a better analogy.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 26, 2019 19:16:20 GMT -5
I would. I would shoot spitwads at the back of the driver's head. Don’t make me turn this car around!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 26, 2019 20:34:02 GMT -5
When I think of Machado I see a picture of him Trying to step on Aguillar’s foot at first base. Reveals a quality of a person I would prefer not to see in a brave’s uniform You always judge people based on a single instance? I hear ya, but how many times have ya seen Freddie Freeman do something like that? It's not even in his DNA.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 26, 2019 20:46:28 GMT -5
My dislike for Douchechado goes back years before all the nonsense from this season, he's been a doucher his entire career.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 26, 2019 20:49:26 GMT -5
My dislike for Douchechado goes back years before all the nonsense from this season, he's been a doucher his entire career. Exactly. He reeks with douchieness. He and the GOAT have that in common, and it's a big reason neither has been signed. IMO. I mean, does anyone think that Trout would have been on the market this long?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 27, 2019 0:32:03 GMT -5
You always judge people based on a single instance? I hear ya, but how many times have ya seen Freddie Freeman do something like that? It's not even in his DNA. I can name a whole heck of a lot of players that aren’t like Freddie Freeman. Players make mistakes. It happens. Here’s what I know, I know the Braves have a solid clubhouse chemistry. They’d hold Machado accountable. So, I’m not too worried about any of the hustling issues. As far as what he did in the NLCS, to err is human. If he recognizes what he did was wrong, and I believe he’s apologized for it, I think we should all just let bygones be bygones. I mean, after all, if Aguilar isn’t holding onto it, why should we? Also, it’s not like he’s Bryce Harper, amirite? I should add, nobody talked about Machado being a douche until this year. I watch A LOT of baseball, and I’ve never heard about him being a douche until this year. A bunch of guys here are acting like he’s Bruce Harper, who has a long history of douche-y behavior.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 27, 2019 8:00:20 GMT -5
Personally, I just want to see Machado and Harper sign with an AL team so we don’t have to deal with them except in small amounts.
Warts and all, our offense in pretty much set and should be fairly productive. I wish we would focus our energies now on finding that guy who can anchor our rotation. Love Folty but just don’t see him as that guy who will take the ball in a big series and instill great confidence. Not sure who that guy is but hopefully, he’s out there and attainable.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 27, 2019 10:02:18 GMT -5
I know this has been discussed in another tread, but I thought it deserved it's own tread. I can see he isn't the most popular guy around here, based on what I'm reading, but you can't deny that he's a 5+ War player, and those guys don't grow on trees. The question is, can the Braves afford him? Last year the Braves had a payroll of $130 million. Right now it's $114 million, leaving only $16 million to play with, and clearly not enough to get Machado, but what if the Braves cleared some payroll? If the Braves were able to trade Teheran and O'Day, that clears up an additional $20 million ($11 million for Teheran and $9 million for O'Day); that's $36 million right there. I read that AA likes to keep some money available for mid-season acquisitions. I read $7 million, but I can't confirm that. Let's go ahead and call it $7 million; which drops available cash to $29 million. If the Braves trade Adam Duvall, that's nearly $3 million. If Machado would sign for $30-31 million AAV, the Braves could afford it. Keeping in mind the possibility that the Braves could still run a payroll of $135 to $140 million. Based on this, Machado is a possibility, but it's clear some things need to happen first for that to happen. P.S. I also find a possible deal for JTR involving Swanson to be very compelling. All that being said, I find this entire scenario to be a bit far-fetched; there's just too many moving parts to make something like this happen. I'd give it a 10% chance of actually happening. I said this in another tread but I think it's possible we are the mystery team in on Machado. The white Sox reported offer of7 years and 175 mil makes me think he's not getting anything close to the 300+ mil Harper is going to get. If this happens I definitely think we will trade Swanson to the fish a side the major league piece for JTR.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 27, 2019 10:10:39 GMT -5
When I think of Machado I see a picture of him Trying to step on Aguillar’s foot at first base. Reveals a quality of a person I would prefer not to see in a brave’s uniform What he did wasn't right we can all agree on that. That being said I like having a guy or 2 on my favorite teams that get so fired up about winning that they push the envelope a bit. Once again I am not condoning this specific act. A championship team needs a mix of personalities. I love Freeman but he's not the kind of guy who's going to fire up the team or go after a guy who shows up the pitcher. You need both. I personally think that Harper is the perfect ying to Freemans yang but the Neck signing likely killed that dream team. Donaldson will fill that spot for a year but Machado could be a great fired up personality to have in the clubhouse.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 27, 2019 11:06:33 GMT -5
I look at these guys and ask myself if their greatness has elevated their teams or the teammates around them. I look at their cost and ask what that cost does to the team long-term. I look at all of those things and the potential for issues in the clubhouse. Ultimately though I see that the Braves for better or worse have decided on a formula for success, and I don't see guys like Muchado and Harper as fitting within the Braves model. On top of that, there is only one chance for guys to make a first impression and right or wrong those first impressions mean something to me. Harper's first impression on me was pretty terrible. Machado... not as much but after only seeing him from afar, I read things like this: Muchado Villain statusThen I think about the demands of playing a certain position.. what I saw myself with him trying to injure a player, and there ya go.. my opinion is pretty set.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 27, 2019 14:30:25 GMT -5
Interesting note of MLBTR:
“Speaking of the great Realmuto staredown, MLB.com’s Mark Bowman writes in his latest Inbox column that the Marlins are still insisting that the Braves include one of their current position players in a trade for the All-Star catcher. So long as that continues to be the price, Bowman writes, it’s unlikely that the Braves will cave into the Marlins’ demands. Bowman also projects that the Braves are about $15MM away from ownership’s top-approved budget level, noting that the team would like to preserve some of those resources for in-season additions when the need arises.”
So, the Braves kicking the tires on Machado, in order to trade Swanson+ for JTR, because the marlins want an MLB ready position player, totally makes sense.
Do the Braves do both deals and then hope to offload Teheran and O’Day afterwards? Certainly possible.
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