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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 4, 2019 15:57:42 GMT -5
At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
Yeah, let's see how forgiving you are when Pache comes up too soon and hits a buck and a quarter. Or how excited you are when he comes up and hits .344 and runs circles around Ender if CF.
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Post by akod on Feb 4, 2019 16:08:13 GMT -5
At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
Yeah, let's see how forgiving you are when Pache comes up too soon and hits a buck and a quarter. Ehhh pretty forgiving because he can just be sent back down and have Acuna take center. Inciarte is about 2-3 years from slowing defensively which will be an inverse relationship in his pay and play. The biggest killer to a competing team that needs every million...
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Post by keystone61 on Feb 4, 2019 17:17:18 GMT -5
Yeah, let's see how forgiving you are when Pache comes up too soon and hits a buck and a quarter. Or how excited you are when he comes up and hits .344 and runs circles around Ender if CF. I think you've inadvertently combined Vlad Jr. and Pache into one player......which is actually a fantastic idea.
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Post by mauibravefan on Feb 4, 2019 19:58:28 GMT -5
Ender has proven value to this team in many ways,at a ridiculously low price. I'm not sure trading him with the hopes that our new Enders will pan out is the best move at this point for a team we want to contend. At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
I can't understand this boards passion for Pollock and under appreciation for Ender. Enders stats seem better he's less expensive . If you don't think his salary will be worth it thru his 28-30 yrs heck Pollock is 31 now/ It seems lots here would have been stoked if we had signed Pollock and if we trade Ender.. Is Pollock worth 13M,12M,15M,10M age 31-34 and Inciarte not worth 5M,7M,8M,9M age 28-31 ?
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Post by keystone61 on Feb 4, 2019 20:28:15 GMT -5
At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
I can't understand this boards passion for Pollock and under appreciation for Ender. Enders stats seem better he's less expensive . If you don't think his salary will be worth it thru his 28-30 yrs heck Pollock is 31 now/ It seems lots here would have been stoked if we had signed Pollock and if we trade Ender.. Is Pollock worth 13M,12M,15M,10M age 31-34 and Inciarte not worth 5M,7M,8M,9M age 28-31 ? Familiarity breeds contempt.
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Post by akod on Feb 4, 2019 20:42:29 GMT -5
At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
I can't understand this boards passion for Pollock and under appreciation for Ender. Enders stats seem better he's less expensive . If you don't think his salary will be worth it thru his 28-30 yrs heck Pollock is 31 now/ It seems lots here would have been stoked if we had signed Pollock and if we trade Ender.. Is Pollock worth 13M,12M,15M,10M age 31-34 and Inciarte not worth 5M,7M,8M,9M age 28-31 ? I like you point but what I’m saying is we have options in the minors which makes Ender a guy who can net more assets while also saving that money. Let’s see what happens in spring training first.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 4, 2019 20:52:05 GMT -5
At $4M and $5M yes, but to me its not as cut and dried at $7M, $8M and $9M per year.
I'll take my chances on Pache. Especially if moving Ender can get us a good player, and it should. I'm certainly not saying he's a bad player. To me he's just expendable, and the sooner we do it the more he'll bring in return.
I can't understand this boards passion for Pollock and under appreciation for Ender. Enders stats seem better he's less expensive . If you don't think his salary will be worth it thru his 28-30 yrs heck Pollock is 31 now/ It seems lots here would have been stoked if we had signed Pollock and if we trade Ender.. Is Pollock worth 13M,12M,15M,10M age 31-34 and Inciarte not worth 5M,7M,8M,9M age 28-31 ? All fair points, aside from the fact that when Pollock is healthy he's a 5 tool player. He did have a 6.8 WAR season. But obviously "when healthy" has been a problem. I wouldn't have paid him what he got until he could show he can be healthy for a season or two. But there' plenty to like about him, that's for sure.
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