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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 6, 2020 8:14:56 GMT -5
It's worth noting I am a bit wary of a 4 year Donaldson as well, I am just not seemingly quite as convinced it will really screw us up if it doesn't work out like we hope in years 3 and 4. I do think it's real significant moneywise if he fails, that's two really good (not elite but really good) players it kept us from having.
But I also get the mentality of feeling like it increases our odds of winning a World Series or two. I don't agree with the size of the gamble, I think it's nuts, but I at least understand the thinking.
I do have some concerns about his defense as the years go by as well. There's a lot of raving about his defense in 2019, but he only had a 2.1 UZR/150, not like the old days for him. I think what happened is that he made a lot of great plays that caught people's eye, but then he also muffed a lot of easier plays too.
All we can really do is see how it plays out and hope he stays healthy and productive.
I understand all the concerns and agree he muffed some easy plays, but what I posted was just a response to the "stiff" thing.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 6, 2020 8:29:42 GMT -5
Huh huh, huh huh, huh huh, we said “muff.”
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Post by wncbravesfan on Jan 6, 2020 8:57:04 GMT -5
All the rumors & Twitter act like today is the revealing of "JD" day...
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 6, 2020 9:03:22 GMT -5
All the rumors & Twitter act like today is the revealing of "JD" day... That would be nice … but I have a feeling it's going to linger for a while. Especially since we appear to be the only true ones in the mix and he wants more than we want to pay. It's basically a staring contest and we'll see who blinks first.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 6, 2020 9:11:59 GMT -5
Just a reminder that we passed on Grandal at 4 years $73M, a guy who has been a 4-6 WAR player five years in a row......and plays a position we REALLY could have used a significant upgrade at.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 6, 2020 9:18:47 GMT -5
Just a reminder that we passed on Grandal at 4 years $73M, a guy who has been a 4-6 WAR player five years in a row......and plays a position we REALLY could have used a significant upgrade at. I don’t remember reading anywhere that the Braves passed on him.
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Post by PABraveFan on Jan 6, 2020 10:28:00 GMT -5
All the rumors & Twitter act like today is the revealing of "JD" day... That would be nice … but I have a feeling it's going to linger for a while. Especially since we appear to be the only true ones in the mix and he wants more than we want to pay. It's basically a staring contest and we'll see who blinks first. Since it appears that the Nats and Twins have moved on what would happen to Donaldson if the Braves refused to go higher and signed Castellanos, or one of the other outfielders available and decided to move on. Would this bring the Dodgers and Rangers back into play and what would happen with the salary?
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Post by wncbravesfan on Jan 6, 2020 12:17:38 GMT -5
That would be nice … but I have a feeling it's going to linger for a while. Especially since we appear to be the only true ones in the mix and he wants more than we want to pay. It's basically a staring contest and we'll see who blinks first. Since it appears that the Nats and Twins have moved on what would happen to Donaldson if the Braves refused to go higher and signed Castellanos, or one of the other outfielders available and decided to move on. Would this bring the Dodgers and Rangers back into play and what would happen with the salary? I think they are awaiting the Kris Bryant arbitration decision on service time, as well.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 6, 2020 12:24:42 GMT -5
I say we may as well offer JD a 5yr 115 mil deal with a 6th yr option.. Why not. If we gonna tie up 4yrs why not 5 and that will give us enough time to draft a new 3B prospect. Since 4 yrs means we moving away from Rikey
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 6, 2020 12:25:53 GMT -5
However as I have said I would rather have Ozuna and play Carmago at 3B just makes more sense
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 6, 2020 13:00:08 GMT -5
Just a reminder that we passed on Grandal at 4 years $73M, a guy who has been a 4-6 WAR player five years in a row......and plays a position we REALLY could have used a significant upgrade at. I don’t remember reading anywhere that the Braves passed on him. Oh well then I guess we signed him and I missed that.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2020 13:15:17 GMT -5
JD camp has overplayed its hand. I don't care what organization it is, you don't just go around handing out $100 million to a guy because you like him.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 6, 2020 14:29:06 GMT -5
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2020 14:57:47 GMT -5
His hair's too long........... these guys need to look at deGrom's numbers pre and post-haircut.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 6, 2020 15:02:54 GMT -5
He's 29 and only thrown more than 126 innings in the big leagues only one season. He's been good but he's only pitched 500 innings in the big leagues. I'm not trading those kind of prospects for him.
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