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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 2:01:23 GMT -5
Have you ever really watched the way he moves? He moves like a much older man, which indicates a lack of natural flexibility, as does his total lack of running speed. Therefore, the injuries make sense. We caught lightning in a bottle last year. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I HOPE I'm wrong. Plus, I'd like to see Riley in a Braves uniform. Now that won't happen. I think this too is grasping a bit at reasons to hate a JD deal. Moving like a much older man? Sorry dude.. that's just pulling crap out of your backside. I thought he moved pretty well all things considered. He's a power hitting 3b.. you really expect speed out of that? I would like to see Riley in a Braves uni as well, and it can still happen if he can prove he can actually hit ML sliders... which he has not done. I would love to see Riley succeed here but what I want most of all is for the Braves to win a title. Ask me if I think that's more likely with Riley in 2020 and 2021 or JD.. Plus the point I have tried to make is seemingly ignored. This move does not cripple us if it doesn't work. If JD falters and Riley and/or Camargo are truly viable options, then we can still succeed. This is the "go for it" move that actually makes a little bit of sense... and it doesn't sacrifice top prospects. Ya, the JD deal won't cripple the on field product, as long as Riley improves. All it'll do is hurt the payroll, but considering the fact that if the Braves sign JD their OD payroll will be $40 MILLION more than OD last year, it seems that money isn't too much of a problem. What's really crazy is that if the Braves do sign JD, after this coming season, the Braves would only have $93 million in projected payroll, leaving $52 million available for arbitration and free agents. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 2:01:55 GMT -5
Last I'll say on it is that Snit isn't as set in stones as you believe. He's certainly slow to make changes, but he does make them. For instance, the line-up change, moving Acuna to lead-off. He waited too long and had 99% of the people on the planet screaming at him to do it, it was so obvious.
What other examples are there?
Too long? They won the division. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 5, 2020 2:08:27 GMT -5
I'm not even completely sold on a JD deal, but I am darn sure not as righteously indignant about it being a sure disaster as some of you are.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 2:09:54 GMT -5
He waited too long and had 99% of the people on the planet screaming at him to do it, it was so obvious.
What other examples are there?
Too long? They won the division. By that line of thinking why did we criticize anything Snitker did at all during the regular season?
How about the idea that if we had Acuna hitting leadoff from day 1 we might have had a 20 game lead in August and could have started resting guys. Doh wait, Snitker wouldn't have rested guys even then.
And the whole reason he tried to hit Acuna 4th was because he was set on Ender leading off. Even though Ender has always started horribly. But hey he was the leadoff hitter, end of story.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 5, 2020 8:33:28 GMT -5
I'm not dead set against it. I just think 4 years is too long, but hey, this is the system the owners wanted. The owners get to screw the players over at the beginning of their careers and they wind up with dead money on their books at the end of the players' careers. Turnabout is fair play, I guess.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 11:02:51 GMT -5
Too long? They won the division. By that line of thinking why did we criticize anything Snitker did at all during the regular season?
How about the idea that if we had Acuna hitting leadoff from day 1 we might have had a 20 game lead in August and could have started resting guys. Doh wait, Snitker wouldn't have rested guys even then.
And the whole reason he tried to hit Acuna 4th was because he was set on Ender leading off. Even though Ender has always started horribly. But hey he was the leadoff hitter, end of story.
Was he dead set on Inciarte leading off, or was he dead set on Acuna hitting 4th? I think it was the latter. Snot clearly wanted to take advantage of Acuna’s power to help drive in runs. There’s more evidence of that than Inciarte being a good lead off hitter. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 11:03:36 GMT -5
I'm not dead set against it. I just think 4 years is too long, but hey, this is the system the owners wanted. The owners get to screw the players over at the beginning of their careers and they wind up with dead money on their books at the end of the players' careers. Turnabout is fair play, I guess. Patiently waiting for the day where MLB and the union realize that front loading contracts are best for everyone. |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 5, 2020 11:07:49 GMT -5
The union should only be for the controllable years to begin with. Guys getting paid millions for years being in a labor union is not only a joke, it's an insult to union workers everywhere.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 11:16:40 GMT -5
The union should only be for the controllable years to begin with. Guys getting paid millions for years being in a labor union is not only a joke, it's an insult to union workers everywhere. Don’t be surprised if control years go down from 6 to either 5 or 4 In the next CBA. |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 5, 2020 13:13:59 GMT -5
The union should only be for the controllable years to begin with. Guys getting paid millions for years being in a labor union is not only a joke, it's an insult to union workers everywhere. Don’t be surprised if control years go down from 6 to either 5 or 4 In the next CBA. It should, and minimum salaries should be raised, and a scale put in place for the first 3 years. Teams can still extend who they want just like now. Arbitration needs to go away. It's stupid. However, some system might be useful for the last 2 years of control. This way, the best players hit the market at age 25-27 and everybody else at around age 30. No more uncomfortably long contracts for 34 year old players. For organizations still dumb enough to hand out 10 or 12 year deals, let them have at it. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 14:37:21 GMT -5
Don’t be surprised if control years go down from 6 to either 5 or 4 In the next CBA. It should, and minimum salaries should be raised, and a scale put in place for the first 3 years. Teams can still extend who they want just like now. Arbitration needs to go away. It's stupid. However, some system might be useful for the last 2 years of control. This way, the best players hit the market at age 25-27 and everybody else at around age 30. No more uncomfortably long contracts for 34 year old players. For organizations still dumb enough to hand out 10 or 12 year deals, let them have at it. +1. I very much agree with that. |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 5, 2020 18:48:36 GMT -5
I'd just assume sign Ozuna and let Camargo play 3B That works if we get the 2018 Camargo. If it’s the 2019 version, not so much. I think we get the late season gwinnett version. His swing is different he looked really good |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 5, 2020 18:54:31 GMT -5
Also, Riley could replace Freeman, lol. That's going to be 6 years from now after Freddie gets his extension.
IF Riley is able to adjust to first base.
Bryce Ball will replace Freeman whenever the braves move on from Freeman. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 20:20:46 GMT -5
Of note, the Gnats appear to have decided that Asdrubal Cabrera and Starlin Castro are a better option than signing JD.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 5, 2020 20:40:46 GMT -5
Of note, the Gnats appear to have decided that Asdrubal Cabrera and Starlin Castro are a better option than signing JD. Well, duh. Let's sign Todd Frazier for a year and put a stop to this madness. |
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