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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 0:23:50 GMT -5
One simple question for those asking why people are so concerned about this JD signing--do you not still have the taste of the Uggla BJ event in your mouth?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 0:47:42 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to expect ANY player to reach his potential if he's only playing part time. Nope, but he can earn another chance to play on the ML roster. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 0:49:11 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to expect ANY player to reach his potential if he's only playing part time. Nope, but he can earn another chance to play on the ML roster. Theoretically, but with Snitker that will only happen if injuries occur. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 0:49:30 GMT -5
One simple question for those asking why people are so concerned about this JD signing--do you not still have the taste of the Uggla BJ event in your mouth? If the braves are scared to sign players cause a couple of deals didn’t work out then they don’t deserve to win the WS. And what has JD ever shown to compare him to those two? Straw grasping, pure and simple. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 0:52:21 GMT -5
Nope, but he can earn another chance to play on the ML roster. Theoretically, but with Snitker that will only happen if injuries occur. I don’t believe that for a second. If Inciarte, Neck, or especially Duvall are playing terrible and Riley repeats what he did last year in AAA, I have no doubt Riley will play. It’s funny how we forget that Snit gave Riley plenty of playing time after Inciarte got back, and that would have continued happening if Riley hadn’t fallen off a cliff. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 0:56:02 GMT -5
One simple question for those asking why people are so concerned about this JD signing--do you not still have the taste of the Uggla BJ event in your mouth? If the braves are scared to sign players cause a couple of deals didn’t work out then they don’t deserve to win the WS. And what has JD ever shown to compare him to those two? Straw grasping, pure and simple. My post wasn't serious, it went right over your head. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 0:59:18 GMT -5
Theoretically, but with Snitker that will only happen if injuries occur. I don’t believe that for a second. If Inciarte, Neck, or especially Duvall are playing terrible and Riley repeats what he did last year in AAA, I have no doubt Riley will play. It’s funny how we forget that Snit gave Riley plenty of playing time after Inciarte got back, and that would have continued happening if Riley hadn’t fallen off a cliff. I totally disagree. We've seen in large samples where Ender and Nick struggled and kept playing. And Riley won't repeat his AAA season when he's sitting on the bench most of the time.
Snitker had no choice but to keep Riley in the lineup when Ender came back because Riley was tearing it up big time. But nobody is ever going to take Ender or Nicks job without them first getting hurt.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 1:02:49 GMT -5
If the braves are scared to sign players cause a couple of deals didn’t work out then they don’t deserve to win the WS. And what has JD ever shown to compare him to those two? Straw grasping, pure and simple. My post wasn't serious, it went right over your head. GDit! We need a sarcasm font around here. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 1:08:49 GMT -5
I don’t believe that for a second. If Inciarte, Neck, or especially Duvall are playing terrible and Riley repeats what he did last year in AAA, I have no doubt Riley will play. It’s funny how we forget that Snit gave Riley plenty of playing time after Inciarte got back, and that would have continued happening if Riley hadn’t fallen off a cliff. I totally disagree. We've seen in large samples where Ender and Nick struggled and kept playing. And Riley won't repeat his AAA season when he's sitting on the bench most of the time.
Snitker had no choice but to keep Riley in the lineup when Ender came back because Riley was tearing it up big time. But nobody is ever going to take Ender or Nicks job without them first getting hurt.
Braves have already stated that Neck will platoon this year. Sure, we can all take that with a grain of salt, but until I see otherwise I'm not gonna call AA a liar. I can see Ender playing, because of his defensive value, but by no means is Duvall a sure thing. Honestly, I could easily see a scenario where Riley plays better than Duvall in ST and it's him who platoons with Neck. If AA and Snit are serious about winning then there should be no earthly reason why Neck should start against lefties at this point in his career. He was actually really good against righties last year (looked it up on fangraphs). Then, ya, it is one injury away from playing a lot more, but I'm not gonna lead the charge like some of you have over Riley playing every day. We don't even know if he's ready, TBH. And ya, maybe we won't know until he plays every day, well IMO, it's not the Braves responsibility to wait for him. The window is open now. The days of playing the youngsters and letting them learn at the MLB level is over. 2 Division Titles in 2 years does that. Unfortunately, Riley is gonna have to do it the old fashion way. Take advantage of the spots you're given and earn more playing time. You can say Snit would never do it. I don't believe that, so we'll just have to disagree. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 1:26:58 GMT -5
My post wasn't serious, it went right over your head. GDit! We need a sarcasm font around here. It was all in how I worded that sentence, if you read it a few times it should become pretty obvious.  |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 1:36:43 GMT -5
I totally disagree. We've seen in large samples where Ender and Nick struggled and kept playing. And Riley won't repeat his AAA season when he's sitting on the bench most of the time.
Snitker had no choice but to keep Riley in the lineup when Ender came back because Riley was tearing it up big time. But nobody is ever going to take Ender or Nicks job without them first getting hurt.
Braves have already stated that Neck will platoon this year. Sure, we can all take that with a grain of salt, but until I see otherwise I'm not gonna call AA a liar. I can see Ender playing, because of his defensive value, but by no means is Duvall a sure thing. Honestly, I could easily see a scenario where Riley plays better than Duvall in ST and it's him who platoons with Neck. If AA and Snit are serious about winning then there should be no earthly reason why Neck should start against lefties at this point in his career. He was actually really good against righties last year (looked it up on fangraphs). Then, ya, it is one injury away from playing a lot more, but I'm not gonna lead the charge like some of you have over Riley playing every day. We don't even know if he's ready, TBH. And ya, maybe we won't know until he plays every day, well IMO, it's not the Braves responsibility to wait for him. The window is open now. The days of playing the youngsters and letting them learn at the MLB level is over. 2 Division Titles in 2 years does that. Unfortunately, Riley is gonna have to do it the old fashion way. Take advantage of the spots you're given and earn more playing time. You can say Snit would never do it. I don't believe that, so we'll just have to disagree. I'll just wait and see how it all plays out.
There's also a possibility that with the window being open right now, Riley could end up being the better player over the next four years. For all we know Camargo could be. Or maybe JD has 4 great years. We'll just have to see. But based on what I've seen with Snitker so far, he has a process set in his mind going into it and that's the way things are going to be. Guys who are not on the A list going in will not get a fair shake. And Riley is obviously not on the A list. Personally I hope they trade either Riley or Camargo or what the hell trade both of them and let Charlie be the 3B backup plan if JD gets hurt. Don't let assets rot. If we have no plan for those two guys, and we don't, then move them and get some pieces we think can help us elsewhere.
At any rate arguing about it has gotten quite tiresome, I'm pretty sure we feel that way now. We're obviously all very passionate baseball fans or we wouldn't we siting around beating this up all winter when we have no actual say in it. I'm not going to worry about it anymore, I'm just going to strap in for the ride and root for the best possible outcome. Go Barves!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 5, 2020 1:44:32 GMT -5
One simple question for those asking why people are so concerned about this JD signing--do you not still have the taste of the Uggla BJ event in your mouth? Uggla maybe a little bit, but not BJ at all. Not even a moment has the BJ deal entered my mind. Honestly, I think that is reaching really deep in the bag of reasons to fear a JD deal. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 5, 2020 1:57:03 GMT -5
Are you basing all of that on one injury? Other than that, what are you basing your theory that he’s not gonna age well on? Also, Riley could replace Freeman, lol. Have you ever really watched the way he moves? He moves like a much older man, which indicates a lack of natural flexibility, as does his total lack of running speed. Therefore, the injuries make sense. We caught lightning in a bottle last year. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I HOPE I'm wrong. Plus, I'd like to see Riley in a Braves uniform. Now that won't happen. I think this too is grasping a bit at reasons to hate a JD deal. Moving like a much older man? Sorry dude.. that's just pulling crap out of your backside. I thought he moved pretty well all things considered. He's a power hitting 3b.. you really expect speed out of that? I would like to see Riley in a Braves uni as well, and it can still happen if he can prove he can actually hit ML sliders... which he has not done. I would love to see Riley succeed here but what I want most of all is for the Braves to win a title. Ask me if I think that's more likely with Riley in 2020 and 2021 or JD.. Plus the point I have tried to make is seemingly ignored. This move does not cripple us if it doesn't work. If JD falters and Riley and/or Camargo are truly viable options, then we can still succeed. This is the "go for it" move that actually makes a little bit of sense... and it doesn't sacrifice top prospects. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2020 1:57:07 GMT -5
Braves have already stated that Neck will platoon this year. Sure, we can all take that with a grain of salt, but until I see otherwise I'm not gonna call AA a liar. I can see Ender playing, because of his defensive value, but by no means is Duvall a sure thing. Honestly, I could easily see a scenario where Riley plays better than Duvall in ST and it's him who platoons with Neck. If AA and Snit are serious about winning then there should be no earthly reason why Neck should start against lefties at this point in his career. He was actually really good against righties last year (looked it up on fangraphs). Then, ya, it is one injury away from playing a lot more, but I'm not gonna lead the charge like some of you have over Riley playing every day. We don't even know if he's ready, TBH. And ya, maybe we won't know until he plays every day, well IMO, it's not the Braves responsibility to wait for him. The window is open now. The days of playing the youngsters and letting them learn at the MLB level is over. 2 Division Titles in 2 years does that. Unfortunately, Riley is gonna have to do it the old fashion way. Take advantage of the spots you're given and earn more playing time. You can say Snit would never do it. I don't believe that, so we'll just have to disagree. I'll just wait and see how it all plays out.
There's also a possibility that with the window being open right now, Riley could end up being the better player over the next four years. For all we know Camargo could be. Or maybe JD has 4 great years. We'll just have to see. But based on what I've seen with Snitker so far, he has a process set in his mind going into it and that's the way things are going to be. Guys who are not on the A list going in will not get a fair shake. And Riley is obviously not on the A list. Personally I hope they trade either Riley or Camargo or what the hell trade both of them and let Charlie be the 3B backup plan if JD gets hurt. Don't let assets rot. If we have no plan for those two guys, and we don't, then move them and get some pieces we think can help us elsewhere.
At any rate arguing about it has gotten quite tiresome, I'm pretty sure we feel that way now. We're obviously all very passionate baseball fans or we wouldn't we siting around beating this up all winter when we have no actual say in it. I'm not going to worry about it anymore, I'm just going to strap in for the ride and root for the best possible outcome. Go Barves!
Last I'll say on it is that Snit isn't as set in stones as you believe. He's certainly slow to make changes, but he does make them. For instance, the line-up change, moving Acuna to lead-off. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2020 2:00:38 GMT -5
I'll just wait and see how it all plays out.
There's also a possibility that with the window being open right now, Riley could end up being the better player over the next four years. For all we know Camargo could be. Or maybe JD has 4 great years. We'll just have to see. But based on what I've seen with Snitker so far, he has a process set in his mind going into it and that's the way things are going to be. Guys who are not on the A list going in will not get a fair shake. And Riley is obviously not on the A list. Personally I hope they trade either Riley or Camargo or what the hell trade both of them and let Charlie be the 3B backup plan if JD gets hurt. Don't let assets rot. If we have no plan for those two guys, and we don't, then move them and get some pieces we think can help us elsewhere.
At any rate arguing about it has gotten quite tiresome, I'm pretty sure we feel that way now. We're obviously all very passionate baseball fans or we wouldn't we siting around beating this up all winter when we have no actual say in it. I'm not going to worry about it anymore, I'm just going to strap in for the ride and root for the best possible outcome. Go Barves!
Last I'll say on it is that Snit isn't as set in stones as you believe. He's certainly slow to make changes, but he does make them. For instance, the line-up change, moving Acuna to lead-off. He waited too long to reverse a change he never should have made in the first place, and had 99% of the people on the planet screaming at him to do it, it was so obvious. And why did he try to hit Acuna 4th? Because he was set in his mind that Ender is a leadoff hitter baseball player guy.
What other examples are there?
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