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Post by Drkirby on Nov 2, 2019 7:20:43 GMT -5
Look who showed up for Halloween. Didn’t expect to see him show up anywhere in oct That was cold! LMAO its not exactly “cold” I LOVE FF. With that said, his October antics are old. I believe he is a top 3 HITTER, possibly not player but pure hitter, in baseball. However, with me in attendance (at the park) he is 2-36. But the video shown is still great. Regardless. And I figured some who may not use twitter would enjoy it. |
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Post by brady2705 on Nov 3, 2019 7:01:09 GMT -5
Likely unpopular opinion: I think resigning Donaldson is probably a bad idea.
Love the guy, love how he played for us and the edge he brought to our club. However, to me it's all about comparative advantage. We have two pretty-solid 3B options on-hand already. Camargo can be reasonably projected for 3.0 WAR if he's starting, and Riley is a lottery ticket that could go anywhere from 0-4, IMO. Having two options already on hand makes spending $25M for Donaldson foolish, IMO. Especially since he's in his mid-30s, and 2019 is his best case scenario -- he can only go down from here, and with his age and injury history, that's quite a reasonable expectation.
For that $25M, we could probably sign Corey Dickerson (LF), Nick Castellanos (RF), Alex Avila (C), and still have a ton of cash to invest in pitching.
I don't know what makes sense for rotation/pen (kinda curious about an Ender for Kimbrel swap), but I'd go to battle with this lineup:
1. CF R Acuna
2. 2B S Albies
3. 1B L Freeman
4. RF R Castellanos
5. LF L Dickerson
6. 3B S Camargo
7. SS R Swanson
8. C_ S Avila/Flowers
1. C_ S Flowers)Avila
2. OF S Hamilton (resign, should be cheap)
3. UT R Culberson
4. OF L Markakis (cheap option, PH, clubhouse leader, veteran presents, etc.)
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 3, 2019 9:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not bullish on re-signing Badhaircut, either. It's pretty risky at the numbers he'll command. What I'd like to do is trade for Marte and sign Bumgarner and Smyly. Camargo and/or Riley can handle 3rd. IMO. No more Nick!
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 3, 2019 13:02:09 GMT -5
I'm not bullish on re-signing Badhaircut, either. It's pretty risky at the numbers he'll command. What I'd like to do is trade for Marte and sign Bumgarner and Smyly. Camargo and/or Riley can handle 3rd. IMO. No more Nick! A quandary for sure,hard to be bullish on Riley or Cargo either other than the $ factor |
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Post by brady2705 on Nov 3, 2019 13:11:32 GMT -5
I'm not bullish on re-signing Badhaircut, either. It's pretty risky at the numbers he'll command. What I'd like to do is trade for Marte and sign Bumgarner and Smyly. Camargo and/or Riley can handle 3rd. IMO. No more Nick! A quandary for sure,hard to be bullish on Riley or Cargo either other than the $ factor I think I'm very comfortable with Camargo, and VERY comfortable that 1 of the 2 will be solid in 2020. Johan was a very good player for us in 2017/2018. The only thing that hurt him in 2019 was his extreme lack of playing time -- hard to get in a rhythm when you're no longer playing every day. Once he went to AAA at the end of the year, he did very well, and was doing very well in MLB just before his season-ending injury. Remember last off-season, how agitated many were that Camargo was now relegated to the bench. The only saving grace was we hoped he'd get 400 PAs by rotating between 3B, SS, 2B, LF, and RF ... That never happened, and he never got enough PT to string anything together. |
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Post by brady2705 on Nov 3, 2019 14:14:40 GMT -5
I guess thinking back on it, I'd rather keep Duvall than bring back Hamilton. Only issue - he's never played CF, not one inning, in MLB or MiLB. So if we don't keep Inciarte or Hamilton around, we're kind of playing with fire on days Acuna needs a rest.
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 3, 2019 15:17:28 GMT -5
A quandary for sure,hard to be bullish on Riley or Cargo either other than the $ factor I think I'm very comfortable with Camargo, and VERY comfortable that 1 of the 2 will be solid in 2020. Johan was a very good player for us in 2017/2018. The only thing that hurt him in 2019 was his extreme lack of playing time -- hard to get in a rhythm when you're no longer playing every day. Once he went to AAA at the end of the year, he did very well, and was doing very well in MLB just before his season-ending injury. Remember last off-season, how agitated many were that Camargo was now relegated to the bench. The only saving grace was we hoped he'd get 400 PAs by rotating between 3B, SS, 2B, LF, and RF ... That never happened, and he never got enough PT to string anything together. I am not anti Camargo he did get bypassed as a starting 3rd base last year in favor of JD and we all know how that worked out.I’m not sure 248 PA qualifies for extreme lack of playing time. Guys go in and out of rhythm all season even playing full time.Just sayin he did get opportunities last year and didn’t thrive |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 3, 2019 17:00:34 GMT -5
Likely unpopular opinion: I think resigning Donaldson is probably a bad idea. Love the guy, love how he played for us and the edge he brought to our club. However, to me it's all about comparative advantage. We have two pretty-solid 3B options on-hand already. Camargo can be reasonably projected for 3.0 WAR if he's starting, and Riley is a lottery ticket that could go anywhere from 0-4, IMO. Having two options already on hand makes spending $25M for Donaldson foolish, IMO. Especially since he's in his mid-30s, and 2019 is his best case scenario -- he can only go down from here, and with his age and injury history, that's quite a reasonable expectation. For that $25M, we could probably sign Corey Dickerson (LF), Nick Castellanos (RF), Alex Avila (C), and still have a ton of cash to invest in pitching. I don't know what makes sense for rotation/pen (kinda curious about an Ender for Kimbrel swap), but I'd go to battle with this lineup: 1. CF R Acuna 2. 2B S Albies 3. 1B L Freeman 4. RF R Castellanos 5. LF L Dickerson 6. 3B S Camargo 7. SS R Swanson 8. C_ S Avila/Flowers 1. C_ S Flowers)Avila 2. OF S Hamilton (resign, should be cheap) 3. UT R Culberson 4. OF L Markakis (cheap option, PH, clubhouse leader, veteran presents, etc.) If I could be assured that we would make the additions you mentioned, I wouldn't be opposed to what you say. The problem is we wouldn't. We would nail the not signing JD part would probably screw the pooch on the other moves. I am also pretty sure we wouldn't pencil in Camargo for that 3.0 WAR with Riley on the team. I'm pretty sure Snit would ride Riley even to a .3 WAR thinking he would come around. So Riley would have to come through as Camargo would be lucky to get back to 225 AB's. Some other things.... Neck here scares me as well. Neck being available (with Camargo hanging around as well) would be the exact reason we choose not to go get a Castellanos with JD's money. Snit would claim he could platoon Neck and Johan in right and we could save that money.... then Neck would play 90% of the time. I also throw up a little in my mouth every time I see a projected 2020 lineup and "Flowers" name. Sorry... but I do. |
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Post by hokiedan on Nov 3, 2019 17:15:43 GMT -5
Likely unpopular opinion: I think resigning Donaldson is probably a bad idea. Love the guy, love how he played for us and the edge he brought to our club. However, to me it's all about comparative advantage. We have two pretty-solid 3B options on-hand already. Camargo can be reasonably projected for 3.0 WAR if he's starting, and Riley is a lottery ticket that could go anywhere from 0-4, IMO. Having two options already on hand makes spending $25M for Donaldson foolish, IMO. Especially since he's in his mid-30s, and 2019 is his best case scenario -- he can only go down from here, and with his age and injury history, that's quite a reasonable expectation. For that $25M, we could probably sign Corey Dickerson (LF), Nick Castellanos (RF), Alex Avila (C), and still have a ton of cash to invest in pitching. I don't know what makes sense for rotation/pen (kinda curious about an Ender for Kimbrel swap), but I'd go to battle with this lineup: 1. CF R Acuna 2. 2B S Albies 3. 1B L Freeman 4. RF R Castellanos 5. LF L Dickerson 6. 3B S Camargo 7. SS R Swanson 8. C_ S Avila/Flowers 1. C_ S Flowers)Avila 2. OF S Hamilton (resign, should be cheap) 3. UT R Culberson 4. OF L Markakis (cheap option, PH, clubhouse leader, veteran presents, etc.) If I could be assured that we would make the additions you mentioned, I wouldn't be opposed to what you say. The problem is we wouldn't. We would nail the not signing JD part would probably screw the pooch on the other moves. I am also pretty sure we wouldn't pencil in Camargo for that 3.0 WAR with Riley on the team. I'm pretty sure Snit would ride Riley even to a .3 WAR thinking he would come around. So Riley would have to come through as Camargo would be lucky to get back to 225 AB's. Some other things.... Neck here scares me as well. Neck being available (with Camargo hanging around as well) would be the exact reason we choose not to go get a Castellanos with JD's money. Snit would claim he could platoon Neck and Johan in right and we could save that money.... then Neck would play 90% of the time. I also throw up a little in my mouth every time I see a projected 2020 lineup and "Flowers" name. Sorry... but I do. Couldn't agree with you more on Flowers. It really pained me to watch Suzuki play well for the Nats all year knowing that the Braves opt to go with the "pitch framer" who led the league in passed balls. I say that have to find a starting catcher and right fielder. Nick has to go to the bench. I could live with a Camargo/Riley platoon at 3rd if they find some pop at C and RF. A lot could depend on how Pache and Waters come along during the off-season. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 3, 2019 19:22:51 GMT -5
In other news, GAPOZ gets hosed on the Gold Glove. Gotta promote those Cardinals at every opportunity!
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 3, 2019 20:03:04 GMT -5
Likely unpopular opinion: I think resigning Donaldson is probably a bad idea. Love the guy, love how he played for us and the edge he brought to our club. However, to me it's all about comparative advantage. We have two pretty-solid 3B options on-hand already. Camargo can be reasonably projected for 3.0 WAR if he's starting, and Riley is a lottery ticket that could go anywhere from 0-4, IMO. Having two options already on hand makes spending $25M for Donaldson foolish, IMO. Especially since he's in his mid-30s, and 2019 is his best case scenario -- he can only go down from here, and with his age and injury history, that's quite a reasonable expectation. For that $25M, we could probably sign Corey Dickerson (LF), Nick Castellanos (RF), Alex Avila (C), and still have a ton of cash to invest in pitching. I don't know what makes sense for rotation/pen (kinda curious about an Ender for Kimbrel swap), but I'd go to battle with this lineup: 1. CF R Acuna 2. 2B S Albies 3. 1B L Freeman 4. RF R Castellanos 5. LF L Dickerson 6. 3B S Camargo 7. SS R Swanson 8. C_ S Avila/Flowers 1. C_ S Flowers)Avila 2. OF S Hamilton (resign, should be cheap) 3. UT R Culberson 4. OF L Markakis (cheap option, PH, clubhouse leader, veteran presents, etc.) I agree with passing on JD, due to cost and age and possible injury at this point, I'm not crazy about Dickerson, he's not a good defensive player and he has a career OPS of .720 and a wRC+ of 90 against lefties. He would need to be platooned. The one way that would work would be to use Camargo, possibly Duvall or Riley in LF against righties....with Camargo and Riley also covering 3B. I'd be more than comfortable with the idea either Camargo or Riley can be a good 3B for us this year.
But I'd be willing to bet nightman's left nut, and maybe his right nut too, that Markakis will start at least 130 games in RF for us next year, no matter what gets said along the way by Sargent Saggysack.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 3, 2019 21:33:36 GMT -5
The Braves REALLY need to move on from Markakis and Flowers. Wilson and Waters for Marte and sign Grandal or Moustakas. Then go for a starter via trade, depending on who you sign.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 3, 2019 21:37:59 GMT -5
The Braves REALLY need to move on from Markakis and Flowers. Wilson and Waters for Marte and sign Grandal. I agree with you, but you're talking about Sargent Saggysack's two favorite boys there, never gonna happen!
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 3, 2019 21:40:17 GMT -5
The Braves REALLY need to move on from Markakis and Flowers. Wilson and Waters for Marte and sign Grandal. I agree with you, but you're talking about Sargent Saggysack's two favorite boys there, never gonna happen!
I bet Chattahoochee can give you as much at catcher as Flowers. It's a gamble worth taking. IMO |
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Post by akod on Nov 3, 2019 21:55:01 GMT -5
The Braves REALLY need to move on from Markakis and Flowers. Wilson and Waters for Marte and sign Grandal or Moustakas. Then go for a starter via trade, depending on who you sign. Waters at 20 years old made it to AAA with a very strong bat, speed, and defense. Literally the type talent our GM covets. Let’s stop the Soroka and Riley for Realmuto this offseason before it starts. Markakis is a perfectly suitable outfielder to rotate in. But I agree with you guys that Snit would start him 130 plus games so it might just be better to let him walk. |
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