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Post by hokiedan on Nov 30, 2019 15:37:47 GMT -5
Waters for Marte. Broken record much? Waters and who else? Wilson? I doubt that would get it done. Waters, Inciarte, and Wilson, maybe? That's a lot...maybe just Waters and Wilson |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 15:52:48 GMT -5
Waters and who else? Wilson? I doubt that would get it done. Waters, Inciarte, and Wilson, maybe? That's a lot...maybe just Waters and Wilson I'd do that, and I'm sure AA would, too. You're only getting 2 years of Marte, so including Ender would probably be an overpay. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 30, 2019 17:43:16 GMT -5
You guys would be terrible GMs. Wilson and Waters is a HUGE overpay for Marte.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 17:52:07 GMT -5
You guys would be terrible GMs. Wilson and Waters is a HUGE overpay for Marte. Really? How so? If we weren't in win now mode, I might agree, but we are in win now mode. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 30, 2019 18:22:31 GMT -5
You guys would be terrible GMs. Wilson and Waters is a HUGE overpay for Marte. Really? How so? If we weren't in win now mode, I might agree, but we are in win now mode. Marte has a surplus value around 18. Waters, alone, has a surplus value of 50+. You're overestimating Marte's value. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 30, 2019 19:51:47 GMT -5
I think we could get Marte without giving up any of our top prospects.
And I'd prefer him a million times more than Ozuna.
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Post by akod on Nov 30, 2019 20:17:55 GMT -5
I think we could get Marte without giving up any of our top prospects.
And I'd prefer him a million times more than Ozuna.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Though AA may want to completely focus on pitching especially after the playoffs. Not to mention JD was pretty useless for half a season and our offense was still quite impressive. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 20:40:23 GMT -5
Really? How so? If we weren't in win now mode, I might agree, but we are in win now mode. Marte has a surplus value around 18. Waters, alone, has a surplus value of 50+. You're overestimating Marte's value. You won't get him then, so there's that. Marte's value is well established. Waters' value is speculative. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 30, 2019 20:42:56 GMT -5
Marte has a surplus value around 18. Waters, alone, has a surplus value of 50+. You're overestimating Marte's value. You won't get him, then so there's that. That’s not true at all, really. I think some pitching prospects of various levels probably would get a deal done. It’s just outside of the obviousness of trading 6 years apiece of two top 100 prospects for a two year rental, the surplus just isn’t there. A package of Touki, or Wilson, and a couple of mid-30 prospects would probably get it done, if you ask me. Then again, I have no idea what the pirates are asking for. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 20:44:30 GMT -5
You won't get him, then so there's that. That’s not true at all, really. I think some pitching prospects of various levels probably would get a deal done. It’s just outside of the obviousness of trading 6 years apiece of two top 100 prospects for a two year rental, the surplus just isn’t there. A package of Touki, or Wilson, and a couple of mid-30 prospects would probably get it done, if you ask me. Then again, I have no idea what the pirates are asking for. Touki? LOL. What value does he have? He pretty much sucks. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 20:47:39 GMT -5
Why would the Pirates do that for 2 years of their best player?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 30, 2019 20:50:07 GMT -5
That’s not true at all, really. I think some pitching prospects of various levels probably would get a deal done. It’s just outside of the obviousness of trading 6 years apiece of two top 100 prospects for a two year rental, the surplus just isn’t there. A package of Touki, or Wilson, and a couple of mid-30 prospects would probably get it done, if you ask me. Then again, I have no idea what the pirates are asking for. Touki? LOL. What value does he have? He pretty much sucks. About 11 million. He’s still young and under team control for 5 years. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 21:00:14 GMT -5
Oh, so performance means nothing, obviously. Cool. A smart GM would laugh his ass off when you slid your surplus value table in front of him for Touki. He's done nothing and may never do anything. Marte is a proven player. Big difference. When you throw in how badly they got burned by Tampa on the Archer deal, I doubt their eagerness to take that much risk. Someone else will offer more, too, IMO.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 30, 2019 21:07:46 GMT -5
I think we could get Marte without giving up any of our top prospects.
And I'd prefer him a million times more than Ozuna.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Though AA may want to completely focus on pitching especially after the playoffs. Not to mention JD was pretty useless for half a season and our offense was still quite impressive. I think a lot of people overlook that--It was something like June 11th when Musgrove clipped JD's jersey with that pitch and JD went berserker for some weird reason, and it was the very next day when he took off. He was one of the best hitters in baseball for three months, hit a ton of home runs, then starting September 15th didn't do much after that. Including the playoffs. I'm not saying he wasn't a monster during those three months because he was, but with his age I'm really hoping we do not sign him again now. I feel like we would be fine without him and use the money elsewhere. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 30, 2019 21:12:06 GMT -5
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Though AA may want to completely focus on pitching especially after the playoffs. Not to mention JD was pretty useless for half a season and our offense was still quite impressive. I think a lot of people overlook that--It was something like June 11th when Musgrove clipped JD's jersey with that pitch and JD went berserker for some weird reason, and it was the very next day when he took off. He was one of the best hitters in baseball for three months, hit a ton of home runs, then starting September 15th didn't do much after that. Including the playoffs. I'm not saying he wasn't a monster during those three months because he was, but with his age I'm really hoping we do not sign him again now. I feel like we would be fine without him and use the money elsewhere. Seems he'd be better off in the AL where he can DH some. |
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