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Post by hokiedan on Nov 26, 2019 14:52:18 GMT -5
I’m hearing that Rendon is willing to take a short term, high AAV, contract. If that’s the case, the Braves could probably afford something like 5-year, $175 million. They’d have to trade some guys like Inciarte, Duvall, Greene to do it, but it could be done. That sounds like it's got Phillies written all over it. Don't be surprised if he winds up there. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 15:02:37 GMT -5
I’m hearing that Rendon is willing to take a short term, high AAV, contract. If that’s the case, the Braves could probably afford something like 5-year, $175 million. They’d have to trade some guys like Inciarte, Duvall, Greene to do it, but it could be done. That sounds like it's got Phillies written all over it. Don't be surprised if he winds up there. Probably, but I think the Braves have a better overall team than the phollies, and I’m not saying that as a Braves fan. |
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Post by hokiedan on Nov 26, 2019 15:06:02 GMT -5
That sounds like it's got Phillies written all over it. Don't be surprised if he winds up there. Probably, but I think the Braves have a better overall team than the phollies, and I’m not saying that as a Braves fan. A lot depends on what they do with their pitching this off season |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 15:16:17 GMT -5
Probably, but I think the Braves have a better overall team than the phollies, and I’m not saying that as a Braves fan. A lot depends on what they do with their pitching this off season Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m fine with a rotation of Soroka/Fried/Folty and a combination of Newk, Wright, Wilson, or Touki filling the last 2 spots; with Anderson and Muller down in AAA. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 26, 2019 16:17:56 GMT -5
A lot depends on what they do with their pitching this off season Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m fine with a rotation of Soroka/Fried/Folty and a combination of Newk, Wright, Wilson, or Touki filling the last 2 spots; with Anderson and Muller down in AAA. I’m fine with that rotation too, but I would like to still add MadBum to that. I still think he’s a really good #3 and could be better. I’d love to trade Inciarte and Duvall to make room for Rendon. I’d rather us spend money on him than JD. If we couldn’t afford both MadBum and Rendon both I could forego Madbum and be fine. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 16:26:29 GMT -5
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m fine with a rotation of Soroka/Fried/Folty and a combination of Newk, Wright, Wilson, or Touki filling the last 2 spots; with Anderson and Muller down in AAA. I’m fine with that rotation too, but I would like to still add MadBum to that. I still think he’s a really good #3 and could be better. I’d love to trade Inciarte and Duvall to make room for Rendon. I’d rather us spend money on him than JD. If we couldn’t afford both MadBum and Rendon both I could forego Madbum and be fine. I would accept a cheaper version of MadBum. I think if the Braves got Rendon at $34m per, they’d probably be tapped out; and those guys would have to be traded to make that deal happen. So, that would me MadBum would be out, IMO. It’s all beyond speculative, though. I give it less than a 1% chance of happening. It’s much more likely the Braves sign JD and trade for a guy like Kluber. Or, if they’re fine with the rotation, sign Moose and Ozuna. |
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 26, 2019 16:33:45 GMT -5
Ozuna might provide more pop but his defense ?? negates a part of that Ender,aside from last season, was a great value and defense is a safer bet than offense
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 16:44:19 GMT -5
Ozuna might provide more pop but his defense ?? negates a part of that Ender,aside from last season, was a great value and defense is a safer bet than offense He’s not nearly as bad as people think. If you compare him to LFers with a min. of 700 innings played, he’s one of only 7 to have a positive DRS, he was 2nd in UZR and UZR/150, and 1 of only 2 who didn’t have a negative DEF value. All stats are found on fangraphs. I’m not saying that Ozuna is a good defender. I’m only saying he isn’t bad. He’s average, which is fine as long as he’s providing value offensively. |
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 26, 2019 16:48:27 GMT -5
Salary wise he would make about 3X what Ender will and cost a draft pick I don't think that's a good move
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 16:59:08 GMT -5
Salary wise he would make about 3X what Ender will and cost a draft pick I don't think that's a good move It is if you’re prioritizing offensive value over defensive value. The draft pick is moot. It’d be a 3rd round pick, which would be traded for a better pick from the team that signs JD. |
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 26, 2019 17:07:56 GMT -5
Good point on pick , but not sure I highly prioritize offense over defense in CF,nice to have both.Offense is more of a maybe to the certainty of defense. With our seeming excess of OF options here and coming up not sure why we are pursuing Ozuna
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 17:10:56 GMT -5
Good point on pick , but not sure I highly prioritize offense over defense in CF,nice to have both.Offense is more of a maybe to the certainty of defense. With our seeming excess of OF options here and coming up not sure why we are pursuing Ozuna Well, in the Ozuna scenario, it’d be Acuna in CF, and that would only be until Pache is called up. Granted Acuna is no Inciarte out there, but if the Braves truly valued Inciarte’s defense, don’t you think when he got back from injury they would have started him? They didn’t. They prioritized Riley’s offense over Inciarte’s defense. That’s a big clue on where the FO’s head is at if you ask me. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 26, 2019 17:52:09 GMT -5
Are we really pursuing Ozuna, though? Not saying we aren't, but I can't imagine teams lining up to get him.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 26, 2019 17:56:22 GMT -5
Are we really pursuing Ozuna, though? Not saying we aren't, but I can't imagine teams lining up to get him. MLBTR has the Braves as one of five teams interested. I’m sure there are quite a few teams interested. He’ll only be 29 and he has the ability to be a 3.0+ WAR player. 110 wRC+ is nothing to sneeze at. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 26, 2019 18:41:42 GMT -5
Like Flowers, this is another case where I don't get where the defensive numbers come from on Ozuna, he's terrible. I've seen him play quite a lot over the last two years, and his arm is toast. He doesn't cover much ground and he doesn't read balls well either. He also has a career OPS of .784, a career wRC+ of 112 and is a very up and down hitter. He's had one big year, and like was the case with Harper for some reason people think that's the player they're going to get with this guy. If he wasn't paid a lot he'd be a decent guy to have, but he's not worth a biggish contract.
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