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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 14, 2019 0:25:55 GMT -5
I'm also on the train of thought over playing good young cost controlled players where they can. At the same time, though, there is a risk of inserting too many rookies on a team that's expected to vie for a division title, and possibly more. Rookies have ups and downs, where vets are more stable, for the most part; you know what you're gonna get. All I know is that it seems pretty clear AA isn't comfortable with playing Riley at this point. He's already gone on record as saying that resigning JD is a priority. It wouldn't be a priority if he was currently all-in on Riley. With today's rumor, it's pretty clear Riley isn't even 3rd on AA's list, and who knows where Camargo's at. Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if Camargo was traded, to be honest. Riley is the only rookie in the equation. And by not signing Moustakas I'm advocating using that money towards Grandal, who would be a true needle mover. Moustakas isn’t. I wish they would trade Camargo rather than let him rot. If they were going to let him rot they should have traded him before last season started. Now we wouldn’t get as much in return if we do it now. And he also deserves the chance to play somewhere. They’ve screwed the pooch with him. As far as rumors and things AA says, I take 100% of that with a grain of salt. He’s the only rookie in this scenario, but not the only potential rookie who could find themselves starting for the Braves next year. I could easily see either Pache or Waters playing daily at some point next year, maybe both.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 14, 2019 1:40:08 GMT -5
Riley is the only rookie in the equation. And by not signing Moustakas I'm advocating using that money towards Grandal, who would be a true needle mover. Moustakas isn’t. I wish they would trade Camargo rather than let him rot. If they were going to let him rot they should have traded him before last season started. Now we wouldn’t get as much in return if we do it now. And he also deserves the chance to play somewhere. They’ve screwed the pooch with him. As far as rumors and things AA says, I take 100% of that with a grain of salt. He’s the only rookie in this scenario, but not the only potential rookie who could find themselves starting for the Braves next year. I could easily see either Pache or Waters playing daily at some point next year, maybe both. I’d see that as a good thing, unless it was due to a pile of injuries.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 14, 2019 1:42:55 GMT -5
There is one way that Moustakas is tailor made for our team. In 173 career PA’s in the playoffs:
.211/.256/.354/.610
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Post by littlebeast1 on Nov 14, 2019 10:13:15 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 14, 2019 11:25:43 GMT -5
I like our staff a lot too. I just wish Washington and Snitker would trade places. We’d have a really good tactical manager and Snitker could take his pom poms over to the third base coaching box and be just as effective patting guys on the back from there.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 14, 2019 16:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 14, 2019 17:34:41 GMT -5
Wow, amazing.
I hope it's Melancon, he scares me to death. Greene had a stellar 6 week run at the end of the season, I'd much rather keep him.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2019 17:42:53 GMT -5
MLB.com says the Braves have Moose as a back-up plan, in case they can’t resign JD. That seems like a decent back-up. I could see the Braves signing MadBum, forfeiting a pick, letting JD walk, getting a pick, and signing Moose to play third. It’s not the best of scenarios, but I don’t think, combined with improvements from younger players, it’ll make the team worse off. Glad MLB is on bored with the program... some of us have known this was a real possibility for a long time.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2019 17:48:43 GMT -5
I’m not anti- Camargo/Riley, not in the slightest. I just don’t think AA is incompetent.... You must not have ever spoken to cheaters, who will assure you that AA is completely incompetent, and has never made a move other than JD that wasn't a complete failure.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2019 17:55:54 GMT -5
Why does there have to be another deal where we get rid of Greene or Melancon? Newk back as a starter leaves us with a need for a left handed reliever and I don't think it means we don't hang onto the others as well. Maybe we're going to roll with Soroka, Folty, Fried, Newk, and a reasonably priced vet (or Bryse, Wright) and invest heavy in the pen.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 14, 2019 18:01:44 GMT -5
Why does there have to be another deal where we get rid of Greene or Melancon? Newk back as a starter leaves us with a need for a left handed reliever and I don't think it means we don't hang onto the others as well. Maybe we're going to roll with Soroka, Folty, Fried, Newk, and a reasonably priced vet (or Bryse, Wright) and invest heavy in the pen. That's a possibility. Newk is at the age where he just MIGHT take that next step. Hamels fits as a veteran presents and he also fits the way we do business. Gotta have a catcher, though. MUST have a catcher.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 14, 2019 18:08:02 GMT -5
Hamels gives us 3 lefty starters if Newk is back in the rotation, so both of those things probably won't happen.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2019 18:12:08 GMT -5
I don't think we invest much in a starter when we have so many coming up from the farm.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 14, 2019 18:18:15 GMT -5
Why does there have to be another deal where we get rid of Greene or Melancon? Newk back as a starter leaves us with a need for a left handed reliever and I don't think it means we don't hang onto the others as well. Maybe we're going to roll with Soroka, Folty, Fried, Newk, and a reasonably priced vet (or Bryse, Wright) and invest heavy in the pen. I'd say for money purposes--we'd be paying two relief pitchers about $28.5M in 2020. And Melancon isn't that good.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 14, 2019 18:28:27 GMT -5
We'd have to eat money to move Melancon.
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