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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Feb 2, 2020 19:50:08 GMT -5
Hopefully the injury was not about being a Brave, but maybe it was just about that season. "This season just isn't your season."
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Post by Cheaters2 on Feb 2, 2020 23:23:51 GMT -5
One other thought about Camargo, when he fouled that ball off his shin and broke the bone or whatever happened there, that almost felt like fate just saying you know what, things just aren't meant to be for you in Atlanta. After tearing it up in Gwinnett, he came back to the Braves and hit two homers and two doubles in 12 AB's before that injury. He was in prime position to really have his foot in the door and had the potential to help us a lot in the playoffs, then that B.S. happened. I mean how many times do guys foul balls off their shins without breaking a bone? I've seen a million, and only once do I recall a season ending bone break being the result. I'm just venting some anger I felt over it at the time, it was a good time for him to have a chance to step up, instead we ended up trying to rely on Rafael Or-freaking-tega who went .143/.217/.238/.455 in September then 0 for 3 in the playoffs. life is a journey and last year may have been the best thing for Camargo. He had some success in 2018 because he worked hard in fall league and worked hard gaining muscle that offseason then had that solid yr and decided not to work in fall and gained some weight and just wasn't in shape. Forward to this offseason he sees what happened and has been working real hard and now he sees he may get a shot I believe his failure last season will change his future |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 2, 2020 23:42:04 GMT -5
One other thought about Camargo, when he fouled that ball off his shin and broke the bone or whatever happened there, that almost felt like fate just saying you know what, things just aren't meant to be for you in Atlanta. After tearing it up in Gwinnett, he came back to the Braves and hit two homers and two doubles in 12 AB's before that injury. He was in prime position to really have his foot in the door and had the potential to help us a lot in the playoffs, then that B.S. happened. I mean how many times do guys foul balls off their shins without breaking a bone? I've seen a million, and only once do I recall a season ending bone break being the result. I'm just venting some anger I felt over it at the time, it was a good time for him to have a chance to step up, instead we ended up trying to rely on Rafael Or-freaking-tega who went .143/.217/.238/.455 in September then 0 for 3 in the playoffs. life is a journey and last year may have been the best thing for Camargo. He had some success in 2018 because he worked hard in fall league and worked hard gaining muscle that offseason then had that solid yr and decided not to work in fall and gained some weight and just wasn't in shape. Forward to this offseason he sees what happened and has been working real hard and now he sees he may get a shot I believe his failure last season will change his future Or maybe he had hemorrhoids.
Or maybe his balls itched all year.
Or maybe his grandmother stopped making him strip naked and tickling him with baloney and it took away all his mojo.
Or maybe he bought a new video game that took all of his attention away from baseball.
Or maybe he took up golf and paid more attention to golf than baseball.
Or maybe he took up Jai Alai and that took his attention away from baseball.
Or maybe he started weaving baskets and that took his attention away from baseball.
Or maybe he decided going around looking at flowers was more fun than playing baseball.
As long as we're going to operate on pure conjecture.......
Or maybe his swing got messed up and then they fixed it when he went to Gwinnett, and I kind of like that idea because his swing looked totally different after that happened and he was suddenly raking. And I don't recall him looking like he was in any better shape when he went to Gwinnett, but this is also just a guess.
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Post by hokiedan on Feb 3, 2020 7:32:28 GMT -5
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Post by littlebeast1 on Feb 3, 2020 10:16:24 GMT -5
I think people tend to forget that the Braves were trying to somewhat limit the young arms like Soroka and Fried last year. At least we didn’t shut them down for the postseason like the Nats did with Strasburg that one year. I’m guessing that the kid gloves will come off in 2020. Baring some kind of injury, I’m pretty sure Soroka will be our number one guy.
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Post by keystone61 on Feb 3, 2020 11:10:42 GMT -5
Bob Gibson AVERAGED 262 IP for SEVENTEEN years. Today's "workhorse" is Max Scherzer, who has averaged about 216 IP for his career. Today's pitchers are wusses.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Feb 3, 2020 11:18:16 GMT -5
Bob Gibson AVERAGED 262 IP for SEVENTEEN years. Today's "workhorse" is Max Scherzer, who has averaged about 216 IP for his career. Today's pitchers are wusses. Don’t disagree. Unfortunately, today’s players are multi-million dollar investments more than they are athletes. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Feb 3, 2020 11:37:17 GMT -5
Back in the day they were conditioned to throw a lot of pitches and had less arm troubles. now they start limiting pitches all through a pitcher's life so they can't throw a lot. I've heard Leo and some of our pitchers from our monster staff talk about how much they threw between starts, it sounded insane but it kept them healthy. Sometimes they threw every day, just not at 100%.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Feb 3, 2020 11:47:33 GMT -5
Back in the day they were conditioned to throw a lot of pitches and had less arm troubles. now they start limiting pitches all through a pitcher's life so they can't throw a lot. I've heard Leo and some of our pitchers from our monster staff talk about how much they threw between starts, it sounded insane but it kept them healthy. Sometimes they threw every day, just not at 100%. I miss those days |
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Post by keystone61 on Feb 3, 2020 12:28:11 GMT -5
Another thing that's happening is they're taking kids who should be throwing 90-92 and pushing them up to 96-98. Throwing 98 is great if you do it naturally, not so great if you don't. It's all about velocity, in spite of the fact that actual PITCHING still works.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Feb 3, 2020 18:41:39 GMT -5
They are also spending an insane amount of time in the weight room which takes a toll on joints, ligaments, and tendons.
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Post by mauibravefan on Feb 3, 2020 19:20:27 GMT -5
They are also spending an insane amount of time in the weight room which takes a toll on joints, ligaments, and tendons. I'm not certain that weight regimens harm joints. Strengthening the muscles that surround joints reduces joint impact |
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Post by keystone61 on Feb 3, 2020 19:49:26 GMT -5
They are also spending an insane amount of time in the weight room which takes a toll on joints, ligaments, and tendons. I'm not certain that weight regimens harm joints. Strengthening the muscles that surround joints reduces joint impact It has an adverse effect on flexibility and the joints, especially if not done with those 2 things in mind. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Feb 3, 2020 21:23:43 GMT -5
They are also spending an insane amount of time in the weight room which takes a toll on joints, ligaments, and tendons. I'm not certain that weight regimens harm joints. Strengthening the muscles that surround joints reduces joint impact Done properly and with joint health in mind... Using too much weight trying to build mass, doing it too often without proper recovery time, and doing it with joints already at risk from other stresses can be harmful. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 0:25:38 GMT -5
Interesting is that we have more advanced sports training and medical technology this day in time and for what ever reason, major league pitchers keep breaking down
I wish there was today's medical technology back in the Sandy Koufax and Drysdale days man, what more could have they done. That is hypothetical of course. I say the same about Gayle Sayers (different sport)
One point made that was good is that back in those days, you did have middle infielders and even catchers who got by hitting lightly without much power. Even a few center fielders could get by hitting fairly lightly.
It helped pitchers compile more innings for sure. This day in time the hitters are just too darn good and the lineups are just deeper and better.
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