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Post by keystone61 on Jan 22, 2020 10:03:07 GMT -5
Could we now maybe trade Ender along with a Wright for a good catcher. It's now our only week spot. As of now we have the worst 2 defensive catchers in baseball Good catcher? Those are few and far between. Unicorns |
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Post by mcgregor on Jan 22, 2020 10:35:16 GMT -5
Realmuto is a FA again after this year. I'd like to snap him up from Philly.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 22, 2020 10:55:07 GMT -5
I really do like the gamble though since it's just one year, because in reality if we weren't going to sign Castellanos, Ozuna just has to be better than Nick/Duvall to make it worthwhile. If he is then it makes us a better team, and we had the money to spend anyway since it was just a one year deal, so pfffft. I don't expect him to be a whole lot better than a Nick/Duvall platoon would have been, so even if he blows out his shoulder or has some other injury it's not like it's a disaster since it's just the one year deal. And maybe we get lucky and somehow he pulls magic out of his rear end. But that throwing arm, I'm not looking forward to having to watch that uckery..... Oh, I think he potentially gives us considerably more than the Duvall/Neck platoon offensively. The good part is that we don't have to decide between trading Waters and Pache (which would we likely have had to do to get Bryant) and then regretting the decision a year or so from now. Nothing bugs me more than giving up a kid who goes on to become a star (going way back, Brett Butler comes to mind). Now we can hold onto the kids for one more year, which could paid huge dividends down the road. Potentially, yeah. But Nick hits RHP really well and Duvall hits LHP really well. And Ozuna does have a career .784 OPS. Not an elite offensive force aside from one great season. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 22, 2020 11:07:40 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn’t mind see Ender traded and let Nick and Duvall play RF. Given our love for Nick I could easily see that happening. That is one weak defensive OF we’d have but a big offensive improvement getting Enders wiffle bat out of the lineup. Better yet to acquire Marte though and let Nick and Duvall be good bench bats.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 22, 2020 11:16:25 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn’t mind see Ender traded and let Nick and Duvall play RF. Given our love for Nick I could easily see that happening. That is one weak defensive OF we’d have but a big offensive improvement getting Enders wiffle bat out of the lineup. Better yet to acquire Marte though and let Nick and Duvall be good bench bats. That sound you just heard was keystone blowing a gasket |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 22, 2020 11:22:51 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn’t mind see Ender traded and let Nick and Duvall play RF. Given our love for Nick I could easily see that happening. That is one weak defensive OF we’d have but a big offensive improvement getting Enders wiffle bat out of the lineup. Better yet to acquire Marte though and let Nick and Duvall be good bench bats. That sound you just heard was keystone blowing a gasket lol I get it, I’ve not been a fan of the way we’ve used Nick, but I still think using him only against RHP is s better option than having Enders bat in the lineup. I would definitely choose Nick over Ender even with their defense taken into consideration. I just really hate watching little slap poke hitters bat. A big part of my gripes towards Nick have been exacerbated by having both his and Enders bats in the lineup over these years. Nick hits the ball way harder than Ender but he still doesn’t hit for power and I’ve hated having both those bats in our OF. |
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Post by PABraveFan on Jan 22, 2020 11:26:54 GMT -5
We got TWO "una's" in the lineup now! We got an Ender between two una's! correctly spelled—— 2unas That spelling is a bit fishy to me. |
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 22, 2020 11:27:18 GMT -5
That sound you just heard was keystone blowing a gasket lol I get it, I’ve not been a fan of the way we’ve used Nick, but I still think using him only against RHP is s better option than having Enders bat in the lineup. I would definitely choose Nick over Ender even with their defense taken into consideration. I just really hate watching little slap poke hitters bat. A big part of my gripes towards Nick have been exacerbated by having both his and Enders bats in the lineup over these years. Nick hits the ball way harder than Ender but he still doesn’t hit for power and I’ve hated having both those bats in our OF. I would choose Nick over Ender, too.
Ideally, I'd love to see Riley have a monster spring and win the 3B job outright. Absolutely nothing against Camargo - if Riley's not ready, I think he could hold down the fort until he is. But a 3-4-5 of Freeman-Ozuna-Riley gives us a pretty stout middle of the order if Riley is ready. Then you could slide Markakis/Duvall down in the sixth spot, bat Dansby seventh and d'Arnaud 8th.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 22, 2020 11:38:32 GMT -5
I’d be perfectly fine with it if Riley stepped up and was the 3B starter too. I have just felt all along the odds were good that between those two they could give us at least 3 WAR at 3B and who knows how much more. If Camargo ended up being the guy I could also see him hitting 25 HRs. He hit 19 in 2018 with just 524 PA’s, that’s pretty much a pace of 25 if he had gotten another 130 PA’s. And he’s bigger now than he was then. If Riley gets it figured out he could hit 40. But he’s gotta cut down on the strikeouts. I have faith in the guy. I shouldn’t be surprised but I have been by how much he’s been written off, I just don’t get that. He’s struggled at every level and then figured it out big time. The MLB breaking ball is a whole different animal for sure, but I still think he’ll overcome it.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 22, 2020 12:59:56 GMT -5
that blocks Waters and Pache. And when Ozuna has a monster yr and he will everyone will want to extend him you can't do that with Marte How does that block them? Pache isn't supposed to be ready until late this year-next year. JD had a monster year but we didn't re-sign him. Who says we would re-sign Ozuna? And Marte's contract ends after 2021, when Waters is expected to be ready.
2020 - Ozuna, Marte, Acuna 2021 - Marte, Pache, Acuna 2022 - Waters, Pache, Acuna
No one seems blocked to me, and by then, we will hopefully know what we really have with the 3 kids, Riley, Pache, and Waters.
It seems like a high reward for 2020, low risk for beyond move.
No one is significantly blocked. |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 22, 2020 13:05:43 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn’t mind see Ender traded and let Nick and Duvall play RF. Given our love for Nick I could easily see that happening. That is one weak defensive OF we’d have but a big offensive improvement getting Enders wiffle bat out of the lineup. Better yet to acquire Marte though and let Nick and Duvall be good bench bats. That sound you just heard was keystone blowing a gasket Maybe he's talking about Nick Esasky?? |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 22, 2020 13:14:36 GMT -5
I’d be perfectly fine with it if Riley stepped up and was the 3B starter too. I have just felt all along the odds were good that between those two they could give us at least 3 WAR at 3B and who knows how much more. If Camargo ended up being the guy I could also see him hitting 25 HRs. He hit 19 in 2018 with just 524 PA’s, that’s pretty much a pace of 25 if he had gotten another 130 PA’s. And he’s bigger now than he was then. If Riley gets it figured out he could hit 40. But he’s gotta cut down on the strikeouts. I have faith in the guy. I shouldn’t be surprised but I have been by how much he’s been written off, I just don’t get that. He’s struggled at every level and then figured it out big time. The MLB breaking ball is a whole different animal for sure, but I still think he’ll overcome it. Yeah, it's like the bad second half (and it was BAD) that Riley had last year is all the reason that's needed to completely give up on the kid. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to figure out the breaking ball. A hitting instructor told me once that the key is A) recognize it (obviously), and B) either lay off or learn to hit it. His idea was that the key to B) was being able to gauge how long you can see the ball. In other words, if that sucker disappears (drops) instantly, you gotta take it, and if it's a strike, it's a strike............nothing you can do about it. If you can get a good look at it, you can usually hit it (or at least foul it off). That's not as complicated as it sounds, but we are talking milliseconds. Of course, it doesn't account for ace pitchers with elite, late-breaking stuff, but like he said, those types of pitchers are hard on EVERYBODY. If he can hit .250 and lower the K rate to 25-30%, he'll be fine. Of course, that's easier said than done, ain't it? |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 22, 2020 13:25:01 GMT -5
Trying to hit the breaking ball is hard to work on during the season to me because it can get a guy thinking too much in the box during games and that can become a disaster. You have to fix that in the off-season and get reps and make it more natural. Riley and Dansby both fell into the same trap with it—for a while they did good at recognizing it, but then when they did, they swung at it 100% of the time. It was “oh there it is I see it’s a breaking ball swing!” And usually the good ones end up in the dirt or are very low and aren’t hittable. So the trick then becomes recognizing it and knowing when to lay off of it.
I think it also helps to learn when to expect it. Becoming smarter in that regard goes a long way.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 22, 2020 13:48:10 GMT -5
Trying to hit the breaking ball is hard to work on during the season to me because it can get a guy thinking too much in the box during games and that can become a disaster. You have to fix that in the off-season and get reps and make it more natural. Riley and Dansby both fell into the same trap with it—for a while they did good at recognizing it, but then when they did, they swung at it 100% of the time. It was “oh there it is I see it’s a breaking ball swing!” And usually the good ones end up in the dirt or are very low and aren’t hittable. So the trick then becomes recognizing it and knowing when to lay off of it. I think it also helps to learn when to expect it. Becoming smarter in that regard goes a long way. They should both be in the cage every day looking at nothing but breaking balls for 30 minutes. Just looking, mind you. Then, 30 minutes of hitting breaking balls. Then mixing in the breaking balls with the fastball and change............the hard part. And even doing that, it's still gonna be hard for them, because they suck at it. |
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Post by akod on Jan 22, 2020 13:52:58 GMT -5
I say we bang a trash can every time there is a breaking ball signaled.
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