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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 20, 2020 14:52:39 GMT -5
Believe me I understand the sentiment, but since we have him he could be somewhat of an asset if we used him properly. Which would be only start him when there's a RHP on the mound and bat him 2nd (as our team is constructed right now). I know he's slowish on the bases, but he's a really good OBP guy against righties.
.298/.371/.446/.816 in 2019
.292/.368/.440/.808 for his career against them.
And his career OPS is 100 points higher hitting 2nd than any other spot in the lineup, he has slashed .312/.383/.489/.872 batting 2nd in his career, and it's a large sample size.
This is where I think knowing some stats as a manager is important. Snitker has this idea that Nick is a run producing guy, that's why he has had him hitting 4th and 5th, the reality is he's just had a ton of chances because he hit behind 3-4 guys with huge OBP's. He has a career .752 OPS in high leverage spots. So he's not bad there, just not optimal either.
And if you're not going to hit him 2nd, put him in the 6th spot or lower please. Even for as bad a season as Camargo had last year, he still had an .877 OPS in high leverage spots. Camargo was an 1.065 OPS in high leverage spots in 2017 and a 1.025 OPS in 2018 in high leverage, which was 27th in all of baseball. Dude has a career OPS of .998 in high leverage spots. Again, stats a manager should know. I don't see Camargo at his best as a cleanup hitter, I think he's a great 6th spot hitter but could work at #5 also, especially if he bulks up just a little more. At any rate, he belongs in those spots way more than Nick does.
So, ideally, if we signed Castellanos, we could go
CF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman RF Castellanos 3B Camargo LF Markakis / Duvall SS Swanson C d'Arnaud
I'd be pretty happy with that, I would take that 5th-7th spot and mix and match and switch those names around that you have with Riley in there too, according to who is performing (as long as Nick stays 6th or lower!). And I'd be just as happy with Marte in the 4th spot if we got him instead of Castellanos. I think baseball has moved away from the traditional home run bopper hitting 4th, you don't HAVE to have that if you have power throughout your lineup, and we do. And Marte is quite capable of hitting 20-25 HRs himself anyway. |
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 20, 2020 14:56:13 GMT -5
So, ideally, if we signed Castellanos, we could go
CF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman RF Castellanos 3B Camargo LF Markakis / Duvall SS Swanson C d'Arnaud
I'd be pretty happy with that, I would take that 5th-7th spot and mix and match and switch those names around that you have with Riley in there too, according to who is performing (as long as Nick stays 6th or lower!). And I'd be just as happy with Marte in the 4th spot if we got him instead of Castellanos. I think baseball has moved away from the traditional home run bopper hitting 4th, you don't HAVE to have that if you have power throughout your lineup, and we do. And Marte is quite capable of hitting 20-25 HRs himself anyway. If we decide to go with Camargo as our regular 3B, wouldn't it be best to start Riley in AAA to get regular ABs and some more seasoning? |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 20, 2020 15:01:58 GMT -5
I'd be pretty happy with that, I would take that 5th-7th spot and mix and match and switch those names around that you have with Riley in there too, according to who is performing (as long as Nick stays 6th or lower!). And I'd be just as happy with Marte in the 4th spot if we got him instead of Castellanos. I think baseball has moved away from the traditional home run bopper hitting 4th, you don't HAVE to have that if you have power throughout your lineup, and we do. And Marte is quite capable of hitting 20-25 HRs himself anyway. If we decide to go with Camargo as our regular 3B, wouldn't it be best to start Riley in AAA to get regular ABs and some more seasoning? I would go by how he and Duvall do in spring training, because I have no problem with Riley playing LF.
The upside to your suggestion would be having Riley get AB's in AAA against RHP, and I'm not opposed to that idea, he certainly needs to work on that for sure.
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 20, 2020 15:36:59 GMT -5
Glad you guys are making some decisions,spring training is almost here
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 20, 2020 15:43:39 GMT -5
Glad you guys are making some decisions,spring training is almost here That's what we're here for |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 20, 2020 17:08:44 GMT -5
Glad you guys are making some decisions,spring training is almost here Bah you Pweeginites are just jealous because you're not rosterbators.
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 20, 2020 17:28:59 GMT -5
Braves sign Felix Hernandez! We’ve got our ACE!
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 20, 2020 17:46:30 GMT -5
Braves sign Felix Hernandez! We’ve got our ACE! Ten years ago this would have excited me. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 20, 2020 17:49:44 GMT -5
I'm hoping we sign Mike Schmidt next.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 20, 2020 17:57:53 GMT -5
It seems I’ll be in the minority on this, but would it be the worst thing in the world for the Braves not to get bogged down in a long term contract and just wait a little longer for the likes of Pache, Waters, and Riley to cement themselves on the MLB roster? I know we’ve been spoiled the last two years, but I’m thinking maybe a step back might lead to a longer term of success than trying to fill holes with money, on older players. Just a thought. I don’t feel a need to spend the JD money right now just because we have it. If the right deal isn’t there now we still have that money to use at any point over the next couple years if we want to when the right situation does come along. I'm okay with standing pat if the alternative is "bogged down with a long term contract". The real issue is what you define as "bogged down with a long term contract". |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 20, 2020 17:58:43 GMT -5
Braves sign Felix Hernandez! We’ve got our ACE! It's a very low-risk gamble...........one that we probably lose, but that's OK. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 20, 2020 18:13:06 GMT -5
It seems I’ll be in the minority on this, but would it be the worst thing in the world for the Braves not to get bogged down in a long term contract and just wait a little longer for the likes of Pache, Waters, and Riley to cement themselves on the MLB roster? I know we’ve been spoiled the last two years, but I’m thinking maybe a step back might lead to a longer term of success than trying to fill holes with money, on older players. Just a thought. I don’t feel a need to spend the JD money right now just because we have it. If the right deal isn’t there now we still have that money to use at any point over the next couple years if we want to when the right situation does come along. I'm okay with standing pat if the alternative is "bogged down with a long term contract". The real issue is what you define as "bogged down with a long term contract". I would define it as having a player that is movable and you don't have to eat part of the contract if you need to move him at some point down the road. Maintaining the ability to be flexible. A lot of the of these deals are made where you are just stuck with the guy unless you eat a bunch of the money. I feel like 3-4 years and under is fairly safe, longer than that is getting into the danger zone. And put an asterisk next to that 3-4 years saying it doesn't apply to guys 34 years of age and older. 
And I don't mind longer than 3-4 years for youngster who have proven their abilities, like Acuna and GAPOZ.
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 20, 2020 18:28:48 GMT -5
Braves sign Felix Hernandez! We’ve got our ACE! It's a very low-risk gamble...........one that we probably lose, but that's OK. What if...Anibal Sanchez? |
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Post by Drkirby on Jan 20, 2020 18:42:37 GMT -5
Braves sign Felix Hernandez! We’ve got our ACE! It's a very low-risk gamble...........one that we probably lose, but that's OK. What if...Anibal Sanchez? |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 20, 2020 19:16:44 GMT -5
A Mike Fast signing if there ever was one.
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