akod
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Post by akod on Jan 18, 2020 10:02:03 GMT -5
The thing about signing Castellanos is that if he plays up to par and becomes expendable due to the development of Waters and Pache, he'll have trade value. On the other hand, if we trade for Marte and have the same situation, we could buy him out (not saying we would, but we could). We'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out, eh? In regards to Castellanos, DH has to be right around the corner to appease the players union. If that’s the case then his signing would make a lot sense. |
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Post by akod on Jan 18, 2020 10:03:42 GMT -5
Folks keep talking about the need for a #4 hitter, and that outside of Riley potentially becoming that guy, our team doesn't really line up that way. But ... What's wrong with Freddie batting cleanup? Here's what I would advocate for in 2021, assuming our prospects play out well: 1. 2B S Albies 2. LF S Waters 3. RF R Acuna 4. 1B L Freeman 5. 3B R Camargo/Riley 6. C R D'arneau 7. SS R Swanson 8. CF R Pache Acuna has a Mookie thing about batting first. I was all about adjusting him down in the order last year but if it ain’t broke... |
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Post by akod on Jan 18, 2020 10:08:20 GMT -5
I do appreciate your understanding of where Water’s bat is compared to Pache at the moment at least. He has a doubles machine type swing that may really take off with the super juiced ball in AAA. I love Pache, he’s been my breakout guy for years and has the massive upside to pair another superstar with Acuna. However, he is not likely to make that same leap Acuna did and will need time to develop. Waters at this point definitely has the bat that could provide Kakes like production from the start, not bad for a guy that can barely drink.
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Post by brady2705 on Jan 18, 2020 10:10:56 GMT -5
Acuna has a Mookie thing about batting first. I was all about adjusting him down in the order last year but if it ain’t broke... Yeah, I think we roll with him at leadoff for another year. But I do think eventually he ought to move down, either to #2 or #3, simply to increase the utility of his power. He's young enough he can keep stealing 40 bags for quite a while, but his power with men on base is more useful. I didn't love trying to make Acuna the cleanup man, and I can understand why that failed. But if you look at his MiLB splits, he was always a #3 hitter coming up the system, more than anywhere else. It's not something that should throw him mentally, the way cleanup could have. |
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Post by brady2705 on Jan 18, 2020 10:14:27 GMT -5
Also, I guess what I didn't make clear -- I do think we should go get a Castellanos, Mancini, or Marte for #4 in 2020. I was merely riffing off the other poster's comment that if our prospects do pan out, we could turn around and trade that player to open up room for Waters/etc., especially if we reconfigure the lineup.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 18, 2020 10:32:07 GMT -5
OK I'll explain my reasoning we gained 7 games with Donaldson. So without him we lose 7 and go back to 2018 with less production from Catcher. But the BP should help. But in 2018 none of the NL East teams were as good as they are now. I think as we stand today we are not as good as 2018 and everyone else is better I also think from a mental level if AA does nothing else the team will mentally step back because they will feel let down and will feel they need to push to replace JD and guys will struggle. Freeman will feel pressure to hit 50HR and Acuna too just to make up for loss of power. And while you hate Ozuna the players remember what he did to them in the playoffs and it would give them a boost of energy to think he will do that for them if they make the playoffs plus him being Hispanic will be a huge plus with our younger players You do realize that this is a lot of nonsensical gibberish? not the way this head works... |
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 18, 2020 10:39:00 GMT -5
I’ve been all for Marte from the start. And if we do trade for him, I think we need to look at moving Ender and letting Marte handle CF until Pache is ready. Then, we slide Marte to LF and relegate “Dukakis” to the bench. I just think it gives us a stronger lineup if we go
RF Acuna
2B Albies
1B Freeman
CF Marte
LF Markakis / Duvall
C d’Arnaud
3B Camargo
SS Swanson
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RF Acuna
2B Albies
1B Freeman
LF Marte
C d’Arnaud
3B Camargo
SS Swanson
CF Inciarte
And if Riley gets a little more seasoning in AAA and Pache is ready before season’s end, the late 2020 lineup could look something like this:
RF Acuna
2B Albies
1B Freeman
LF Marte
3B Riley
C d’Arnaud
CF Pache
SS Swanson
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 18, 2020 11:25:31 GMT -5
Markakis to the bench? LMAO. Not as long as Sargent Snitker is in charge!
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 18, 2020 11:55:24 GMT -5
Markakis to the bench? LMAO. Not as long as Sargent Snitker is in charge! The sad truth is that we are probably going to need a productive Markakis more than ever. Hopefully we get the 2018 version and not last year’s. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 18, 2020 13:27:26 GMT -5
I would be shocked if Snitster went with a lineup like that.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 18, 2020 13:28:57 GMT -5
Markakis to the bench? LMAO. Not as long as Sargent Snitker is in charge! The sad truth is that we are probably going to need a productive Markakis more than ever. Hopefully we get the 2018 version and not last year’s. Yeah, and that ain't no great shakes. It kills me to know we have to have him in the lineup. I'm just tired of him being on this team, I guess. He's a one-dimensional, aging player. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 18, 2020 13:29:33 GMT -5
Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I’m seeing rumors of the Braves trading for Haniger/Seager. Writers are saying by the end of the week. Personally, I don’t see it happening, but thought I’d share it.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 18, 2020 14:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 18, 2020 14:34:16 GMT -5
Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I’m seeing rumors of the Braves trading for Haniger/Seager. Writers are saying by the end of the week. Personally, I don’t see it happening, but thought I’d share it. The only way that makes sense is to have Ender and Camargo or Riley as the center pieces, not giving up any of the top 5 prospects. |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 18, 2020 14:40:06 GMT -5
Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I’m seeing rumors of the Braves trading for Haniger/Seager. Writers are saying by the end of the week. Personally, I don’t see it happening, but thought I’d share it. The only way that makes sense is to have Ender and Camargo or Riley as the center pieces, not giving up any of the top 5 prospects. Haniger's really only had 1 good year, you know. It's not like his value is sky high. |
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