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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 16, 2020 15:02:39 GMT -5
I am not crazy about that deal for the Braves, I do not want to move Waters or Pache If Kyle Wright were the pitcher in that one and another prospect not named Wright or Pache I might consider Could a package of Contreras, Wright, Ender and throw in another P like Ynoa or Touki get them to bite? I don't think so based on what the Cardinals supposed offer is. I saw a mock proposal that was hilariously listed under "the Rockies MIGHT consider"
Anderson Wright Pache Langliers Tucker Davidson
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Arrenado and Ian Desmond
Now, that's a crazy return. They better take out Desmond and throw in Story and Gray for that kind of haul!
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 16, 2020 16:01:48 GMT -5
I don't understand why you would line up to give away the farm AND pay a guy $35 million (or whatever it is) a year. The Rox screwed up with the Arenado contract, and now they want somebody to bail them out is the way I see it. I mean, the guy is a helluva 3rd baseman, but why would you do that when you could have bid on Rendon (which I doubt the Braves did)? The whole thing makes no sense to me at all. His home/road batting splits are huge, too. His OPS is 200 points lower on the road than at Coors.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 16, 2020 17:02:12 GMT -5
I don't understand why you would line up to give away the farm AND pay a guy $35 million (or whatever it is) a year. The Rox screwed up with the Arenado contract, and now they want somebody to bail them out is the way I see it. I mean, the guy is a helluva 3rd baseman, but why would you do that when you could have bid on Rendon (which I doubt the Braves did)? The whole thing makes no sense to me at all. His home/road batting splits are huge, too. His OPS is 200 points lower on the road than at Coors. The other problem is he has an opt out after two years. It's lose/lose. If he stays you have to pay him a ton, if he leaves you're screwed that way too. He has a career .800 OPS away from Coors Field, and that's very significant to me because it's covering almost 2200 PA's. As good as he is defensively, that's just not something I'd do this trade for and I don't think there's any way AA will. It would be one thing if we could have signed him to a FA deal if the Rockies hadn't extended him, but this is a whole different story. |
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 16, 2020 17:09:22 GMT -5
Arenado no
its not the way we should go
yes Castellanos
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 16, 2020 17:11:33 GMT -5
Arenado no its not the way we should go yes Castellanos We saw what Castellanos can do with the bat when he went to the Cubs last year. I'm not worried about his defense that much. We need this guy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 17:38:42 GMT -5
I don't think so based on what the Cardinals supposed offer is. I saw a mock proposal that was hilariously listed under "the Rockies MIGHT consider"
Anderson Wright Pache Langliers Tucker Davidson
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Arrenado and Ian Desmond
Now, that's a crazy return. They better take out Desmond and throw in Story and Gray for that kind of haul!
Wow, that is beyond crazy, in the end Braves better off just giving Riley his chance and why not get Castellanos in here But, do you want to go more than a couple of yrs with this guy. Or give him a one yr deal that is a bit overvalued Its more in the Braves DNA to do one yr kind of deals, with Waters and Pache so close like 3021, I do think they would like someone for one yr without giving up prospects - smart way to go |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 16, 2020 18:39:34 GMT -5
I don't think we'd have any choice but to sign Castellanos for more than two years because there's quite a few other teams interested in him. Unless we made him a really sweet two year offer, which would be my preference to bridge us to Waters being ready.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 18:48:09 GMT -5
I don't think we'd have any choice but to sign Castellanos for more than two years because there's quite a few other teams interested in him. Unless we made him a really sweet two year offer, which would be my preference to bridge us to Waters being ready. The sweet two year offer is the best way to go if possible - that is how this organization operates they do not want to commit say, 4 or 5 yrs unless its a player from within like one of our young guys or Freddie Freeman, the iconic player for this franchise right now The draft pick compensation attached to Ozuna (and his declined defense) might be a turn off The other option is to bargain shop offering minor league deals to guys who were good at one time but are fazing out at the mlb level this past yr, example the Solarte sign. They could in a sense, throw enough S on the wall in bring in those kind of guys and hope something sticks |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 16, 2020 19:00:44 GMT -5
That's the same way a lot of people make posts on message board.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 16, 2020 19:09:49 GMT -5
Man, some of these bloggers just act as if the Braves threw away a sure World Series victory by passing on Donaldson. It's strange to me. You'd think he was Chipper Jones in his prime, and he's not. Chipper produced an OPS over .1000 in 3 consecutive years at 34, 35, and 36 years old. Badhaircut has never done that. Sorry for the rant, but some of these guys are just over the top. I hope Riley can fulfill his promise this year and make them all look like the fools they are. it hurts us huge if we do not land a cleanup hitter we are a.500 team no very little chance of making playoffs with a Cleanup hitter we are in the running for a title |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 16, 2020 19:12:48 GMT -5
As much as most of us have written Ender off, as long as he is on our team I guarantee Snitker hasn’t written him off. If we don’t make any significant moves I wouldn’t be one bit surprised to see us start the season with Ender leading off, Acuna batting 4th and Nick batting 5th. Riley/Camargo 6th, catcher 7th and Dansby 8th. If Snit isn't careful, he's gonna mess around and let his loyalty to all things Nick/Dansby/Ender cost him his job. Loyalty is great to a point, but when it hurts the team, that's unacceptable. I'd argue that it hurt the team last year, but that's difficult to prove, given that we won 97 games. well its not like AA has given him better options |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 16, 2020 19:16:59 GMT -5
Hech is back we are good
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Post by PABraveFan on Jan 16, 2020 19:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 16, 2020 19:58:26 GMT -5
Bench is a little right handed heavy now. Needs Kakes. Sign Castellanos and trade for Marte. Trade Ender and Greene to free up money. RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Castellanos CF Marte 3B Camargo C d’Arnaud SS Swanson C Flowers IF Hech UT Culberson OF Kakes OF Duvall Boom. All set. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 16, 2020 20:30:34 GMT -5
Bench is a little right handed heavy now. Needs Kakes. Sign Castellanos and trade for Marte. Trade Ender and Greene to free up money. RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Castellanos CF Marte 3B Camargo C d’Arnaud SS Swanson C Flowers IF Hech UT Culberson OF Kakes OF Duvall Boom. All set. Greene is only making $6.5M this year and at this point I think he's better than Melancon, and MM is going to make $19M. I'd rather keep Greene, but obviously Melancon would be a lot harder to trade unless we ate a bunch of that money. And I do believe I've read that Snitker intends to use Melancon as the closer. He scares me, and Greene was really good the last 6 weeks of the season. |
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