peteorr
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Post by peteorr on Dec 6, 2018 7:02:06 GMT -5
Wouldn't the Indians be trading a starting pitcher because they have too many? I doubt they want two starting pitchers coming back in a trade for Kluber. That is unless they think that is a great deal for them and they have one or two further trades lined up to deal pitching.
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Post by Drkirby on Dec 6, 2018 8:53:15 GMT -5
Folty is coming into a TOR pitcher. Lock him up; don’t trade him for an over the hill arm...
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Post by littlebeast1 on Dec 6, 2018 9:23:45 GMT -5
OK. After yesterday's announcement of Acuna, Donaldson and Freeman as the top three in the order, I'm changing my tune a bit.
I still like Familia for the pen, but now, I would rather we put a package of prospects together to get Haniger from Seattle. Then, if we feel like we need a SP, we can explore guys like Keuchel, Happ or Morton who won't cost us prospects.
But image a lineup of
LF Acuna 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman RF Haniger 2B Albies CF Inciarte C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Dec 6, 2018 9:39:39 GMT -5
OK. After yesterday's announcement of Acuna, Donaldson and Freeman as the top three in the order, I'm changing my tune a bit. I still like Familia for the pen, but now, I would rather we put a package of prospects together to get Haniger from Seattle. Then, if we feel like we need a SP, we can explore guys like Keuchel, Happ or Morton who won't cost us prospects. But image a lineup of LF Acuna 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman RF Haniger 2B Albies CF Inciarte C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson Read from DOB that the M’s aren’t looking to trade Haniger. Obviously things can change. Wouldn’t mind if the Braves called about Piscotty. Not my first choice, but a good plan b.
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Post by Drkirby on Dec 6, 2018 9:41:37 GMT -5
OK. After yesterday's announcement of Acuna, Donaldson and Freeman as the top three in the order, I'm changing my tune a bit. I still like Familia for the pen, but now, I would rather we put a package of prospects together to get Haniger from Seattle. Then, if we feel like we need a SP, we can explore guys like Keuchel, Happ or Morton who won't cost us prospects. But image a lineup of LF Acuna 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman RF Haniger 2B Albies CF Inciarte C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson Pay someone to take Teheran’s contract and go all in on Harper.
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Post by Drkirby on Dec 6, 2018 9:42:35 GMT -5
Best get a worthwhile cleanup hitter if you’re running the black hole Swanson,mcflowers and pitcher.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Dec 6, 2018 10:27:46 GMT -5
OK. After yesterday's announcement of Acuna, Donaldson and Freeman as the top three in the order, I'm changing my tune a bit. I still like Familia for the pen, but now, I would rather we put a package of prospects together to get Haniger from Seattle. Then, if we feel like we need a SP, we can explore guys like Keuchel, Happ or Morton who won't cost us prospects. But image a lineup of LF Acuna 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman RF Haniger 2B Albies CF Inciarte C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson Read from DOB that the M’s aren’t looking to trade Haniger. Obviously things can change. Wouldn’t mind if the Braves called about Piscotty. Not my first choice, but a good plan b. I remember the Braves trying to acquire Piscotty before. I’d be ok with it. He’s had some up and downs but the potential is still there for him to be a real good player. Why wouldn’t the Mariners move Haniger? That’s just stupid at this point. Maybe they’re just saying that to try to get teams to up their offers.
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akod
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Post by akod on Dec 6, 2018 16:20:56 GMT -5
OK. After yesterday's announcement of Acuna, Donaldson and Freeman as the top three in the order, I'm changing my tune a bit. I still like Familia for the pen, but now, I would rather we put a package of prospects together to get Haniger from Seattle. Then, if we feel like we need a SP, we can explore guys like Keuchel, Happ or Morton who won't cost us prospects. But image a lineup of LF Acuna 3B Donaldson 1B Freeman RF Haniger 2B Albies CF Inciarte C McCann / Flowers SS Swanson Pay someone to take Teheran’s contract and go all in on Harper. Julio on a one year deal for 11 mil as a BOR arm is worth something believe it or not. He’s not going to return much on his own but he’s got value in a package deal.
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akod
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Post by akod on Dec 6, 2018 16:36:14 GMT -5
Folty is coming into a TOR pitcher. Lock him up; don’t trade him for an over the hill arm... Possibly, he has the stuff to be one but he’s always been a head case. Which means his stuff better stay elite or he needs to get his mentality in check. Would anyone be shocked if he didn’t take a step forward this year? I mean we haggled the guy over hardly anything in arbitration last year which leads me to believe we don’t have the highest opinion of the guy off the field. Not to mention I think he will remember us arguing 100k in arbitration with him come free agency time. Kluber over the hill? Each guy has 3 years left before free agency. If both are going to walk at the end of 3 years I’d rather have Kluber.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Dec 6, 2018 20:43:51 GMT -5
Teheran makes my eye twitch come back.
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Post by brady2705 on Dec 6, 2018 21:07:29 GMT -5
I say ...
1. Sign McCutchen, something like $12-15M per
2. Bat Acuna 2nd ... Don't get this leadoff or cleanup crap. He's our Trout. He's a picture-made #2 hitter in today's game
3. Trade Teheran for whatever we can get, hope to save $5M net salary or so
4. Sign Kimbrel, $15M per, 4 years. His market is dwindling, he'll come home.
5. Go with 5 starters, but have a 6th who can come in when there's no off day that week. Limits injuries. Serves as LR otherwise.
1. CF L Inciarte (2B Albie's vs. lefties) 2. LF R Acuna 3. 1B L Freeman 4. 3B R Donaldson 5. RF R McCutchen 6. C_ S McCann/Flowers 7. 2B S Albie's (CF Inciarte vs. lefties) 8. SS R Swanson
1. C_ S Flowers/McCann 2. IF S Camargo 3. UT R Charlie Clutch 4. OF R Duvall
1. R Folty 2. L Newcomb 3. R Gausmann 4. R Soroka 5. S Fried/Toussaint 6. S Toussaint/Fried
1. R Kimbrel 2. R Vizcaino 3. L Minter 4. R O'Day 5. R Sobotka 6. L Venters 7. R Winkler
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Dec 6, 2018 21:59:59 GMT -5
Don't like the leadoff idea.
Inciarte never gets going until around July and Albies seems to be a terrible leadoff choice.
Like the idea of Cutch
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Post by brady2705 on Dec 6, 2018 22:30:45 GMT -5
Thing is, Inciarte has been pretty solid except for a 3-4 month stretch last year. Ozzie, he kills lefties. His career line is:
.335/.357/.548/.905
So a hybrid leadoff solution should work.
Our 2/3/4 slots NEED to be Acuna/Freeman/Donaldson. Those guys are all perfectly suited for those spots. So, short of a trade and new addition, an Inciarte/Albie's hybrid is the best concession for leadoff. I'd much prefer that to forcing our big-3 out if their most ideal batting slots.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Dec 7, 2018 0:47:05 GMT -5
Read from DOB that the M’s aren’t looking to trade Haniger. Obviously things can change. Wouldn’t mind if the Braves called about Piscotty. Not my first choice, but a good plan b. I remember the Braves trying to acquire Piscotty before. I’d be ok with it. He’s had some up and downs but the potential is still there for him to be a real good player. Why wouldn’t the Mariners move Haniger? That’s just stupid at this point. Maybe they’re just saying that to try to get teams to up their offers. Well, from what I understand is that their asking price is too high. Basically Dipoto wanted the Braves top-3 prospects. Would you be cool with trading Riley+Anderson+ Soroka for Haniger? I wouldn’t.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Dec 7, 2018 0:49:58 GMT -5
Pay someone to take Teheran’s contract and go all in on Harper. Julio on a one year deal for 11 mil as a BOR arm is worth something believe it or not. He’s not going to return much on his own but he’s got value in a package deal. I$11 mil is only like 1.3 WAR. JT hasn’t hit that for two years, but he’s not a neg WAR pitcher. Braves might have to eat a mil, or throw in a lower rated prospect.
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