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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2018 1:04:19 GMT -5
Gonna update this as things happen, but it'll be a way to see how things are coming together. If a position is up in the air it'll be left blank. Position order won't reflect batting order and rotation order won't reflect the order of the rotation.
Basically, what I'm doing is taking guys that are currently on the 40-man roster, looking at who they are, what they've done at the ML level, and making an educated guess. Obviously, guys like Fried, Allard, and Gohara will more than likely be on the OD roster, but it's not clear exactly where, so I'm leaving them off until their position becomes more clear.
Overall, this will give everyone a solid idea on what the Braves need and what they should be targeting on the FA market and in trades.
Starters: CF - Inciarte LF - Acuna RF - 1B - Freeman 2B - Albies SS - Swanson 3B - Ca -
Bench: UT - Camargo UT - Culberson OF - Duvall OF - Ca -
Rotation: SP - Foltynewicz SP - Newcomb SP - Soroka SP - Teheran SP - Gausman
Bullpen: RP - RP - RP - Carle RP - Winkler RP - O'Day RP - Minter RP - Vizcaino
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 31, 2018 1:24:26 GMT -5
Don't you mean 2019 OD roster? No way Dansby starts at SS and Camargo is used as a utility player. If we add a solid 3B or Riley is ready for opening day, Dansby will be the odd man out. With the move to add Duvall, it tells me our management thinks we can contend now and wants to put a better team on the field every day. Within reason of course...meaning not giving up prospects. Dansby might see some bench time the rest of the way out this year, if we're going to put our best players on the field each night now. But at the rate things are going, even though he's the golden boy/face of the franchise, he will have lost his starting job when 2019 comes around. He already would have lost it this year if he hadn't been playing so well defensively. But the offensive numbers are ghastly. I just posted it the other day, over the last two years, Dansby is the 5th worst hitter in all of baseball. His wRC+ is 73 now in the big leagues. Unacceptable. Camargo's is 108.
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 31, 2018 4:27:15 GMT -5
Don't you mean 2019 OD roster? No way Dansby starts at SS and Camargo is used as a utility player. If we add a solid 3B or Riley is ready for opening day, Dansby will be the odd man out. With the move to add Duvall, it tells me our management thinks we can contend now and wants to put a better team on the field every day. Within reason of course...meaning not giving up prospects. Dansby might see some bench time the rest of the way out this year, if we're going to put our best players on the field each night now. But at the rate things are going, even though he's the golden boy/face of the franchise, he will have lost his starting job when 2019 comes around. He already would have lost it this year if he hadn't been playing so well defensively. But the offensive numbers are ghastly. I just posted it the other day, over the last two years, Dansby is the 5th worst hitter in all of baseball. His wRC+ is 73 now in the big leagues. Unacceptable. Camargo's is 108.
I am thrilled that we got rid of Wisler and got something in return. Sims might still turn things around, but I'll be shocked if Wisler does. Tucker was obviously expendable. Flaherty may survive the season, given that Riley most likely won't be up before September.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 31, 2018 8:09:43 GMT -5
Lineup RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Duvall C Grandal (FA) 3B Riley SS Camargo CF Pache
Bench C Suzuki (re-sign) UT Culberson IF Swanson OF Inciarte
Rotation SP Folty SP Newk SP Morton (FA) SP Soroka SP Allard
Bullpen LR Jackson MR Toussaint MR Carle MR Biddle SU Minter SU Brach SU Winkler CL Kimbrel (FA)
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Post by Larrys HOF Jersey on Jul 31, 2018 10:02:31 GMT -5
RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Duvall C Grandal (FA) 3B Riley SS Camargo CF Pache SP Folty SP Newk SP Morton (FA) SP Soroka SP Allard SU Minter SU Brach SU Winkler CL Kimbrel (FA) Bear with me here. SP Folty SP Newk SP Morton SP Soroka SP Fried/Toussaint SU Minter SU Brach SU Winkler CL Kimbrel Contingent upon Bringing Toussaint up this year to see how he does. If he does well, replace Morton with Soroka and Fried and Toussaint can occupy the 4th and 5th spots in the rotation.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 31, 2018 10:24:10 GMT -5
Updated mine to include full 25 man roster
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Post by Drkirby on Jul 31, 2018 10:50:14 GMT -5
Lineup RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Duvall C Grandal (FA) 3B Riley SS Camargo CF Pache
Bench C Suzuki (re-sign) UT Culberson IF Swanson OF Inciarte
Rotation SP Folty SP Newk SP Morton (FA) SP Soroka SP Allard
Bullpen LR Jackson MR Toussaint MR Carle MR Biddle SU Minter SU Brach SU Winkler CL Kimbrel (FA) That could be the 2020 lineup. but, Pache in no way will be ready OD 2019
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2018 15:44:20 GMT -5
Made a couple of changes at the top. Inserted Gausman into the rotation and I switched out Brach for O'Day, because for some reason I thought Brach had a year left.
As for anyone questioning Swanson on the OD roster next year. Look, there has been nothing said about him NOT being the Braves SS moving forward, and considering he hasn't even hit arbitration yet, until news comes out that he won't be the Braves starting SS, he's the Braves starting SS.
Yes, it is a prediction 25-man roster, but it's based on real news. I'm not making guesses. I'm using all the available information, combined with logic and precedence, and putting together what I believe will be the roster on OD.
Things change, and if someone is traded, demoted, or anything else, I will make updates.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 31, 2018 16:01:17 GMT -5
Lineup RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman LF Duvall C Grandal (FA) 3B Riley SS Camargo CF Pache
Bench C Suzuki (re-sign) UT Culberson IF Swanson OF Inciarte
Rotation SP Folty SP Newk SP Morton (FA) SP Soroka SP Allard
Bullpen LR Jackson MR Toussaint MR Carle MR Biddle SU Minter SU Brach SU Winkler CL Kimbrel (FA) That could be the 2020 lineup. but, Pache in no way will be ready OD 2019 remember I am predicting it first Waters will be up before Pache and will be the better player. he will be starting 2020
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 31, 2018 16:04:02 GMT -5
Made a couple of changes at the top. Inserted Gausman into the rotation and I switched out Brach for O'Day, because for some reason I thought Brach had a year left. As for anyone questioning Swanson on the OD roster next year. Look, there has been nothing said about him NOT being the Braves SS moving forward, and considering he hasn't even hit arbitration yet, until news comes out that he won't be the Braves starting SS, he's the Braves starting SS. Yes, it is a prediction 25-man roster, but it's based on real news. I'm not making guesses. I'm using all the available information, combined with logic and precedence, and putting together what I believe will be the roster on OD. Things change, and if someone is traded, demoted, or anything else, I will make updates. well I did read something about him being benched for the rest of this yr Against LH pitching and Camargo playing SS those games. and it also looks like Ender will do the same thing
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 31, 2018 16:19:53 GMT -5
lineup
Acuna CF Albies 2B Freeman 1B Kris Davis LF will trade a few of our good pitching prospects for Him. he is Arb eligible and A's wont want to pay him Grnadal C Duvall RF Camargo 3B Swanson SS
rotation
Folty Newc Soroka Fried Allard
BP revolving door but Andrew Miller SU Kimbrel CL
Braves save money by not signing any big FA's then go all in for Chris Sale or MADBUM the following yr
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Post by Drkirby on Jul 31, 2018 16:26:38 GMT -5
That could be the 2020 lineup. but, Pache in no way will be ready OD 2019 remember I am predicting it first Waters will be up before Pache and will be the better player. he will be starting 2020 I’m on record for Camargo>Swanson for eternity now, and finally people are climbing aboard my bandwagon
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2018 16:35:15 GMT -5
Made a couple of changes at the top. Inserted Gausman into the rotation and I switched out Brach for O'Day, because for some reason I thought Brach had a year left. As for anyone questioning Swanson on the OD roster next year. Look, there has been nothing said about him NOT being the Braves SS moving forward, and considering he hasn't even hit arbitration yet, until news comes out that he won't be the Braves starting SS, he's the Braves starting SS. Yes, it is a prediction 25-man roster, but it's based on real news. I'm not making guesses. I'm using all the available information, combined with logic and precedence, and putting together what I believe will be the roster on OD. Things change, and if someone is traded, demoted, or anything else, I will make updates. well I did read something about him being benched for the rest of this yr Against LH pitching and Camargo playing SS those games. and it also looks like Ender will do the same thing I haven't heard anything on the former, the latter has been confirmed. Do you have anything proving the former? Even if both are true, that doesn't really effect next season as both are for "the rest of this year".
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 31, 2018 16:55:17 GMT -5
Made a couple of changes at the top. Inserted Gausman into the rotation and I switched out Brach for O'Day, because for some reason I thought Brach had a year left. As for anyone questioning Swanson on the OD roster next year. Look, there has been nothing said about him NOT being the Braves SS moving forward, and considering he hasn't even hit arbitration yet, until news comes out that he won't be the Braves starting SS, he's the Braves starting SS. Yes, it is a prediction 25-man roster, but it's based on real news. I'm not making guesses. I'm using all the available information, combined with logic and precedence, and putting together what I believe will be the roster on OD. Things change, and if someone is traded, demoted, or anything else, I will make updates. All the available information shows proof that Camargo is blowing Dansby's doors off.
You're right in saying that no one in the organization has openly indicated Dansby isn't the future starting SS, but if he and Camargo finish this season on the pace they are both on, and Riley is ready at 3B next year and Dansby starts at SS and Camargo becomes a utility player, it will be as dumb a decision as I've ever seen as a sports fan for over 50 years. I can't believe our management would be that stupid. If Dansby picks it up offensively the rest of the way this year and/or Camargo falters, my opinion on the whole matter could change. But I see no reason at this point to believe anything is going to be significantly different the rest of the way this year for either one of them.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2018 17:08:24 GMT -5
Made a couple of changes at the top. Inserted Gausman into the rotation and I switched out Brach for O'Day, because for some reason I thought Brach had a year left. As for anyone questioning Swanson on the OD roster next year. Look, there has been nothing said about him NOT being the Braves SS moving forward, and considering he hasn't even hit arbitration yet, until news comes out that he won't be the Braves starting SS, he's the Braves starting SS. Yes, it is a prediction 25-man roster, but it's based on real news. I'm not making guesses. I'm using all the available information, combined with logic and precedence, and putting together what I believe will be the roster on OD. Things change, and if someone is traded, demoted, or anything else, I will make updates. All the available information shows proof that Camargo is blowing Dansby's doors off.
You're right in saying that no one in the organization has openly indicated Dansby isn't the future starting SS, but if he and Camargo finish this season on the pace they are both on, and Riley is ready at 3B next year and Dansby starts at SS and Camargo becomes a utility player, it will be as dumb a decision as I've ever seen as a sports fan for over 50 years. I can't believe our management would be that stupid. If Dansby picks it up offensively the rest of the way this year and/or Camargo falters, my opinion on the whole matter could change. But I see no reason at this point to believe anything is going to be significantly different the rest of the way this year for either one of them.
Like I said, when it's confirmed that Camargo will be the starting SS moving forward, I'll adjust the lineup. Until then, it has to be assumed that Swanson is the starter.
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