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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 20, 2018 12:32:03 GMT -5
I'd rather see the Braves call up Riley before trading for a rental. It's not about today, not yet. The Braves should see what they have. Pulling an Albies-like move (i.e. calling Riley up in early August) is a smart move.
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Post by brady2705 on May 20, 2018 15:29:05 GMT -5
I'm talking about as a July trade rental, not as a FA signing. I think they keep Riley in AAA until September, and take a flyer on Donaldson over July/August. Come September, either Donaldson is on fire, or Riley starts getting most of the starts. And we’d be out some prospects. Eh, maybe. That would be the sticking point for me. Donaldson hasn't been playing great this year, and maybe the Jay's are nervous he'd accept a QO. His salary is pretty large, so you'd have to offset it with someone like McCarthy to try and somewhat balance the dollars. But, I would think if it costs more than a Ruiz type prospect, you walk away.
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Post by peteorr on May 20, 2018 17:54:13 GMT -5
So the Braves just won a big game that I expected them to be lose after being down. The Braves currently have the best record in the NL. This cannot go to waste. Either Riley is ready or he isn't. Also he might start slow even if he's ready. I really would like the Braves to trade for a 3B rental. I don't think it would be too expensive.
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Post by mauibravefan on May 20, 2018 18:10:42 GMT -5
Hmmmm from MLB trade rumours---There’s a growing feeling among talent evaluators” that the Braves will go after Royals third baseman Mike Moustakas in advance of the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline, according to Cafardo. That may have become even more likely Sunday when the Braves ended their brief Jose Bautista experiment, though they’re bent on giving Johan Camargo a serious look at third base for the time being. Regardless, Moustakas does seem like a strong bet to finish the season outside of Kansas City, which is rebuilding and doesn’t have him under contract beyond this season (there is a $15MM mutual option, however). Moustakas is making a very reasonable salary ($5.5MM) and enjoying a terrific year at the plate, having slashed .294/.333/.528 with 10 long balls in 195 PAs.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 20, 2018 18:42:43 GMT -5
So the Braves just won a big game that I expected them to be lose after being down. The Braves currently have the best record in the NL. This cannot go to waste. Either Riley is ready or he isn't. Also he might start slow even if he's ready. I really would like the Braves to trade for a 3B rental. I don't think it would be too expensive. Weren’t you for the Braves giving Camargo a shot last year?
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 20, 2018 19:32:34 GMT -5
And we’d be out some prospects. Eh, maybe. That would be the sticking point for me. Donaldson hasn't been playing great this year, and maybe the Jay's are nervous he'd accept a QO. His salary is pretty large, so you'd have to offset it with someone like McCarthy to try and somewhat balance the dollars. But, I would think if it costs more than a Ruiz type prospect, you walk away. The problem I would think is that there would be several other teams interested in trying to grab him as a rental too. We wouldn't have to give up 3 prospects or anything too drastic, but if he stays healthy and picks up his hitting he's likely to bring more than I would feel comfortable parting with.
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Post by Cheaters2 on May 20, 2018 19:37:21 GMT -5
Yes on Newcomb. If he can keep the control consistent, he has TOR stuff. He could be the elusive ace of our future staff. I Agree 100% Newcomb has the stuff and is learning to use it. I honestly believe he could end up as good as a MadBum or Kershaw. The kid misses a lot of bats
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Post by brady2705 on May 20, 2018 19:44:24 GMT -5
Eh, maybe. That would be the sticking point for me. Donaldson hasn't been playing great this year, and maybe the Jay's are nervous he'd accept a QO. His salary is pretty large, so you'd have to offset it with someone like McCarthy to try and somewhat balance the dollars. But, I would think if it costs more than a Ruiz type prospect, you walk away. The problem I would think is that there would be several other teams interested in trying to grab him as a rental too. We wouldn't have to give up 3 prospects or anything too drastic, but if he stays healthy and picks up his hitting he's likely to bring more than I would feel comfortable parting with. Yeah, I would only be interested in him as a buy-low. With all the contenders having 3B, the market is in our favor, and I feel like we can pick who we want and drive the price. Jays will have to make a call, as he's not been playing well, and has a $20M+ salary this year. If they give him a QO, he may accept looking to bounce back and reestablish his market in a year without Machado and Harper stealing the headlines. If they don't, he walks without them getting anything in return. Those circumstances are what make me think we can snag him relatively cheap. The Braves would have to get him for a really good deal (McCarthy + Ruiz), get LM to agree with bumping payroll, and basically bet on Donaldson rebounding into a .900 OPS player down the stretch. If they can't get those parameters, I would walk away. If it worked out, I prefer Donaldson over Moose simply because he's a RH bat. You could slot him 4th and Neck 5th, and have great balance. Moose would give you conceivably 3 LHB in a row, or you bump him to 6th behind Suzuki/Flowers, where his impact is muted. But, you never know. A trade for Moose and Herrera would certainly be an "all in" move.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 20, 2018 20:07:48 GMT -5
The problem I would think is that there would be several other teams interested in trying to grab him as a rental too. We wouldn't have to give up 3 prospects or anything too drastic, but if he stays healthy and picks up his hitting he's likely to bring more than I would feel comfortable parting with. Yeah, I would only be interested in him as a buy-low. With all the contenders having 3B, the market is in our favor, and I feel like we can pick who we want and drive the price. Jays will have to make a call, as he's not been playing well, and has a $20M+ salary this year. If they give him a QO, he may accept looking to bounce back and reestablish his market in a year without Machado and Harper stealing the headlines. If they don't, he walks without them getting anything in return. Those circumstances are what make me think we can snag him relatively cheap. The Braves would have to get him for a really good deal (McCarthy + Ruiz), get LM to agree with bumping payroll, and basically bet on Donaldson rebounding into a .900 OPS player down the stretch. If they can't get those parameters, I would walk away. If it worked out, I prefer Donaldson over Moose simply because he's a RH bat. You could slot him 4th and Neck 5th, and have great balance. Moose would give you conceivably 3 LHB in a row, or you bump him to 6th behind Suzuki/Flowers, where his impact is muted. But, you never know. A trade for Moose and Herrera would certainly be an "all in" move. Good points, I really haven't paid attention to which other teams may or may not need a 3B. It will be interesting to see how Donaldson does between now and then, as well as Camargo and Riley.
My advice though would be to not bet any money on Donaldson turning it around, because I have him on my fantasy team.
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Post by peteorr on May 20, 2018 20:35:34 GMT -5
So the Braves just won a big game that I expected them to be lose after being down. The Braves currently have the best record in the NL. This cannot go to waste. Either Riley is ready or he isn't. Also he might start slow even if he's ready. I really would like the Braves to trade for a 3B rental. I don't think it would be too expensive. Weren’t you for the Braves giving Camargo a shot last year? I've always thought of Camargo as a utility player. He has a platoon split and his numbers last year were inflated due to a high BABIP. I was fine with Camargo starting this year/last year in the sense that if the Braves were throwing the towel it didn't matter who they had at third. The Braves are clearly a good team right now. Therefore, I don't think Camargo should be starting.
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Post by bravesfanmatt on May 21, 2018 0:15:18 GMT -5
Beltre could be a cheap fit. I like grabbing moose and Herrera too. Riley is not the answer this year.
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Post by Drkirby on May 21, 2018 4:26:23 GMT -5
Beltre could be a cheap fit. I like grabbing moose and Herrera too. Riley is not the answer this year. Depends the cost. Agree on Riley though.
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Post by brady2705 on May 21, 2018 5:36:41 GMT -5
Beltre could be a cheap fit. I like grabbing moose and Herrera too. Riley is not the answer this year. Depends the cost. Agree on Riley though. I could get on board with Beltre -- he's a FA after the season right? Wouldn't want to take on a multi-year commitment. Riley may be the answer, but I wouldn't want him hitting higher than 6/7/8 as a rookie. If we trade for a rental 3B, I hope it's someone we can immediately insert to 4/5.
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Post by bravesfanmatt on May 21, 2018 11:53:44 GMT -5
Depends the cost. Agree on Riley though. I could get on bored with Beltre -- he's a FA after the season right? Wouldn't want to take on a multi-year commitment. Riley may be the answer, but I wouldn't want him hitting higher than 6/7/8 as a rookie. If we trade for a rental 3B, I hope it's someone we can immediately insert to 4/5. yes Beltre is in his final year. he would be great in a Matt Kemp roll.. plays 5 days a week at 3rd.. getting defensive subbed when ahead. I like Moose.. just makes our lineup so LH IMO..
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 21, 2018 12:21:55 GMT -5
I could get on bored with Beltre -- he's a FA after the season right? Wouldn't want to take on a multi-year commitment. Riley may be the answer, but I wouldn't want him hitting higher than 6/7/8 as a rookie. If we trade for a rental 3B, I hope it's someone we can immediately insert to 4/5. yes Beltre is in his final year. he would be great in a Matt Kemp roll.. plays 5 days a week at 3rd.. getting defensive subbed when ahead. I like Moose.. just makes our lineup so LH IMO.. Little concerned about Beltre’s health. He missed quite a bit last year and is hurt again. Strained hamstring I think? That can be ongoing.
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