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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Sept 8, 2018 15:45:10 GMT -5
I don't like McCann's recent numbers and he isn't getting any younger. We'd be living in the past if we brought him back IMHO. I'd much prefer Suzuki. Same here, but money does talk, so if a team wants to vet pay it’d be a tough decision for Suzuki to say no and I don’t really wanna see the Braves overpay.
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Post by keystone61 on Sept 8, 2018 18:15:12 GMT -5
I don't like McCann's recent numbers and he isn't getting any younger. We'd be living in the past if we brought him back IMHO. I'd much prefer Suzuki. I agree. Let's stick with Flowers and Zuk one more year (unless, of course, we can pull off a deal for Realmuto).
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 8, 2018 20:14:17 GMT -5
Sign Grandal for 2-3 years if possible.
McCann is not in the best shape of his career.
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Post by peteorr on Sept 8, 2018 21:52:09 GMT -5
I don't like McCann's recent numbers and he isn't getting any younger. We'd be living in the past if we brought him back IMHO. I'd much prefer Suzuki. Same here, but money does talk, so if a team wants to vet pay it’d be a tough decision for Suzuki to say no and I don’t really wanna see the Braves overpay. The Braves weren't expected to be this good this season and Suzuki signed on for it. Of course he could always leave. But if I had to hazard a guess, I would think that he's willing to stay on an improved team. Also he just hit a dinger.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Sept 8, 2018 23:27:35 GMT -5
Same here, but money does talk, so if a team wants to vet pay it’d be a tough decision for Suzuki to say no and I don’t really wanna see the Braves overpay. The Braves weren't expected to be this good this season and Suzuki signed on for it. Of course he could always leave. But if I had to hazard a guess, I would think that he's willing to stay on an improved team. Also he just hit a dinger. I wouldn't mind Suzuki at all, and I know I just said they'd probably sign McCann, but I'd much prefer a guy who's better at pitch framing.
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Post by bravter on Sept 8, 2018 23:49:11 GMT -5
Our need is to DFA Duvall or Duvall DFA's us. ( Duvall F@cks Atlanta) it would statistically be better to have Wholio pinch hit for himself than let duvall bat Tehran 7-34, HR vs Devall 4-42, 0 XBH. On top of that Julio has 11 sac bunts, the most in baseball. We'd would've had a better chance with Julio in a squeeze play last night.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 8, 2018 23:57:38 GMT -5
it would statistically be better to have Wholio pinch hit for himself than let duvall bat Tehran 7-34, HR vs Devall 4-42, 0 XBH. On top of that Julio has 11 sac bunts, the most in baseball. We'd would've had a better chance with Julio in a squeeze play last night. I thought a squeeze tonight with Ozzie up and Ender on 3rd in the 10th would have been a good idea, but it just ain't gonna happen for some reason.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 9, 2018 7:42:04 GMT -5
Tehran 7-34, HR vs Devall 4-42, 0 XBH. On top of that Julio has 11 sac bunts, the most in baseball. We'd would've had a better chance with Julio in a squeeze play last night. I thought a squeeze tonight with Ozzie up and Ender on 3rd in the 10th would have been a good idea, but it just ain't gonna happen for some SNITKER. Fixed that for you..
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Post by peteorr on Nov 11, 2018 16:22:45 GMT -5
So I've gone on record saying I think the best thing for the Braves to do this offseason would be to trade Folty because they have too many starters and he is the one who has greatly increased value. I'm not 100% on that plan though.
I'll start off my rosterbation in a scenario in which the Braves strive to become a better team, possibly one that wins in the playoffs.
Sign Michael Brantley. I'd be quite interested if the Braves could sign him for under $50M for three years. He didn't receive a qualifying offer. The Braves could possibly even offer him one after his contract is up.
Sign Josh Donaldson. He was traded mid-season and didn't receive a qualifying offer. The Braves could also offer him one once he leaves if I'm not mistaken. Donaldson was in line for a rather sizeable contract before the injury. Granted it is a small sample size, Donaldson had a .920 OPS in 50 AB with the Indians. To me that says he's healthy. Obviously he'll now have had the offseason to recover. I think Donaldson is a bargain at ~$20M a season for one or two seasons. Would he take that offer? We would be getting one of the best players in the game at 2/3 asking price/year on a short term contract when the injury he had last season isn't all that concerning to me. I've seen at least one person say they don't want Brantley because he's not right handed. Josh Donaldson fills that need.
Trade Camargo. Perhaps I always underestimated Camargo. I'm glad he produced as he did. For me that was far from an expectation. Camargo could be just an acceptable or solid player on average moving forwards (2-2.5 WAR). The Braves would need to receive fair compensation in a trade for Camargo if they were to sign Donaldson.
Trade Teheran. He's a former all-star. You need to be able to sell the buying team on him being a #3 starter. Teheran eats innings fairly well. I would hope the return for him would be the other team paying his full salary plus a B prospect. Increase the quality of the prospect if the other team isn't willing to pay Teheran's full salary.
At this point you have to figure out how much money you have for the rest of the team. I don't feel like doing that right now. You would have to account for the two new contracts, the addition of O'Day, and arbitration raises.
You would then figure out who you want at catcher. With the added prospects from the Camargo and Teheran trades you would have a few more players to deal. That would make a major trade easier to stomach. Given Inciarte's lackluster ability to hit LHP, I worry that it might not be justifiable playing him in CF every game against LHP. Defense is where he gets most of his value to begin with. Inciarate is a better hitter in the second half (3/5 seasons). It is of course not a certainty, but I feel there is some chance that Inciarte won't play well enough to be the leadoff hitter during the first half of the season. I would consider making a trade and improving offensively. I don't know which corner OF might be available. Do you consider Acuna good enough in CF to start there and how would the Braves feel about that?
I probably wouldn't trade for Realmuto. The cost would be too high. Suzuki is indeed old. However, he has been serviceable so far. He said he wants to come back.
Weigh in if any of you want to. What would you like to see happen this offseason?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 17, 2018 14:18:30 GMT -5
Catcher: Yasmani Grandal – 4-years, $72 million (Braves might be able to get him cheaper, but probably not much.) Outfield: Eddie Rosario – Sean Newcomb, Drew Waters, Alex Jackson (Shot in the dark here. Braves with a slight overpay, based on my surplus calculations. Braves could just as easily sign Michael Brantley, but then all my work trading for Greinke goes down the drain, cause that wouldn’t happen if they signed Brantley. If the Braves do go that route, then just slide Newk into Greinke’s spot in the rotation, which, if I’m being honest, is the much more likely scenario.) 1. CF - Inciarte 2. RF - Rosario 3. LF - Acuna 4. Ca - Grandal 5. 1B - Freeman 6. 2B - Albies 7. SS - Swanson 8. 3B – Camargo Batting Order: 1. Albies 2. Acuna 3. Freeman 4. Rosario 5. Grandal 6. Camargo 7. Inciarte 8. Swanson Bench: Kole Calhoun - Julio Teheran (Even contract swap.) Ca – Flowers OF – Duvall IF – Culberson UT – Calhoun UT – Riley (Braves may see which 2 of 3 are ready to go after ST. I think Swanson will be Swanson and the Braves will hedge their bets by having Riley on the 25-man roster. If Riley isn't ready, then replace him with Ruiz.) Rotation: Zach Greinke + $35 million – Joey Wentz, Kolby Allard + lower prospect (Big trade here. Greinke has very little surplus value without the DBacks eating a significant portion of his salary. It doesn’t seem like the DBacks view a trade as a salary dump, so they’ll want prospects in return. This deal puts Greinke’s AAV at $24.8 million. Might still be a bit too rich for the Braves blood.) 1. Folty 2. Greinke 3. Gausman 4. Soroka 5. Touki Bullpen: Joe Kelly – 2-years, $15 million Jeurys Familia – 3-years, $30 million (Both guys are solid, but not spectacular. The big thing about both is that they strike out a lot of batters, which is great. I believe that if the Braves go bigger here, by going after a closer, or a guy like Ottavino, they’ll only get one, instead of getting 2 here. There are others, like Miller, Herrera, Soria, etc., that are also available. They are almost all interchangeable, but I prefer these two.) RP – Fried RP – O’Day RP – Venters RP – Kelly SU – Vizcaino SU – Familia CL – Minter All deals: Yasmani Grandal – 4-years, $72 million Eddie Rosario for Sean Newcomb, Drew Waters, Alex Jackson Kole Calhoun for Julio Teheran Zach Greinke + $35 million for Joey Wentz, Kolby Allard + lower prospect Joe Kelly – 2-years, $15 million Jeurys Familia – 3-years, $30 million peteorr
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 17, 2018 15:15:36 GMT -5
There’s some major bation going on there!
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 17, 2018 16:16:54 GMT -5
There’s some major bation going on there! Yup, also need to make some changes.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 17, 2018 16:57:03 GMT -5
There’s some major bation going on there! Yup, also need to make some changes. No fair, real GMs have to live (and die) with their moves, no changes or do- overs or mulligans!
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 17, 2018 17:40:00 GMT -5
Yup, also need to make some changes. No fair, real GMs have to live (and die) with their moves, no changes or do- overs or mulligans! Ya, but there’s debate before deals are done. What GM goes out and makes deals without a back and forth? An unemployed one.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 17, 2018 18:40:11 GMT -5
No fair, real GMs have to live (and die) with their moves, no changes or do- overs or mulligans! Ya, but there’s debate before deals are done. What GM goes out and makes deals without a back and forth? An unemployed one. Or the Faillies GM.
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