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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 24, 2021 21:56:08 GMT -5
Than Ynoa starts to develop into a real SP then he gets the freak injury. Its Murphy's law all yr football cannot come fast enough Let's clarify something here... it wasn't some freak injury. A freak injury is a block of blue ice falling from the sky and giving you a grade 1 concussion. Ynoa's injury was born of brazen stupidity, and fits right in with the Braves having the biggest collection of meat-heads in all of MLB.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 24, 2021 21:58:45 GMT -5
I prefer to just sit back and enjoy the knowledge that some are going to wake up at 3 a/m with the night sweats trying to remember. Well, that’s just mean … With all I have to deal with trying to keep everyone between the lines, you have to give me this little indulgence.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:14:24 GMT -5
Newcomb seems to pitch well when he starts an inning. That's mental. He must be as much of a headcase as Folty. Somebody just mentioned this a few days ago.
But despite the obvious, Snitker keeps bringing him into games with the bases loaded, putting him in the very worst situation you can put a guy who has such trouble commanding his pitches.
At times you could almost make the argument that we are tanking for some bizarre reason.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:18:28 GMT -5
Camargo is like 0 for 15 but I believe he would adequate. Camargo is hitting .320 at Gwinnett, but he's not the answer. There's some kind of mental thing, he's never going to hit for us again. He needs a change of scenery.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jun 24, 2021 22:19:19 GMT -5
Who was the poster who used to purposefully leave blank posts? You had to mention that, didn't you? I'll be thinking about that when I get up in the morning. Thanks! I just remembered …it was skippy
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:20:39 GMT -5
Wash 7 Miami 3 Bottom 9th, 1 on, 1 out Washington may be the Mets biggest obstacle in the East I think Washington will leave the Mutts in the dust at this point.
We are definitely done.
It was going to be a rough go for us anyway, but Acuna goes on the IL we could lost 10+ games in a row.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:35:46 GMT -5
Why not try playing Carmago more what do you have to lose. If you are going to not use him than just let him go on with his career. I know the only reason we have Ender Inciarte on this team is because of one more yr of signifigant salary. Another thing is that its a risk to bring in pitchers late with no training camp or ST. That is a mistake made with Shane Greene. No matter what its not going to work this year. But I am tired of the same old same old with the same manager and pitching coach No strategy around here, would it be too much to have Ender bunt since he cannot hit anyway - might have forced a mistake with the bases loaded. We know he can't hit a lick. I think Camargo has a mental block, he knows the organization never believed in him and never had plans for him and he's let that get in his head. He's hitting .320 right now at Gwinnett. He's been steady all year, but they've brought him up twice and flat cold sat him on the bench for a week at a time both times. Nobody can hit that way, so why even bother. He has a career .743 OPS and I believe if he goes somewhere else and gets his confidence back he'll be a .750 or better OPS guy. But even if we brought him up now and played him and he hit to his abilities, that's not going to help this team much. We need about 5 good players right now.
I'm throwing in the towel. Start moving people before or by the deadline. I've given up on Wright finally but that won't bring much. Camargo's OPS is .920 at Gwinnett, nobody can tell me there aren't several MLB teams that could use a guy like who can hit like that and play elite defense at three infield positions. We don't have much of value to move, but get rid of Morton and any other spare parts we can. Arcia has 11 HR's and a .925 OPS. We clearly have no plans for him or he would have up instead of Adrianza. He won't bring much, but some of these guys packaged with a draft pick would at least get us something that might help down the road. Why hang onto stuff you have no intention of using? Demeritte has been out two weeks with a groin injury, Waters and Pache are barely treading water, neither doing real well, and that's our AAA team. So we might as well move whatever we can and try to get better for the future, even if it's marginally.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 24, 2021 22:37:14 GMT -5
You had to mention that, didn't you? I'll be thinking about that when I get up in the morning. Thanks! I just remembered …it was skippy Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 24, 2021 22:41:45 GMT -5
Camargo is like 0 for 15 but I believe he would adequate. Camargo is hitting .320 at Gwinnett, but he's not the answer. There's some kind of mental thing, he's never going to hit for us again. He needs a change of scenery. I really liked Camargo. I thought he could be our next Martin Prado, but I am done with him here and agree completely. We need to parlay his miLB performance into something of value and let the guy try to revive his career somewhere else. .... and I believe he can do something... ... just not here.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:42:26 GMT -5
I hate to say this, but I'd almost be willing at this point to trade Freddie at the deadline and trade Fansby too.
There's three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Dansby striking out at least twice per game.
I've detailed before why I think we'll resign Freddie and Dansby both, but I'm so sick of watching this garbage I wouldn't mind a reload on the run and change the persona of this team.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 22:45:47 GMT -5
Camargo is hitting .320 at Gwinnett, but he's not the answer. There's some kind of mental thing, he's never going to hit for us again. He needs a change of scenery. I really liked Camargo. I thought he could be our next Martin Prado, but I am done with him here and agree completely. We need to parlay his miLB performance into something of value and let the guy try to revive his career somewhere else. .... and I believe he can do something... ... just not here. Between being glued to the bench when he is called up, not hitting when he does get an AB, and a clear mental block over the way he's been treated, he's never going to hit for us, and it boggles my mind that we still hang onto him. He won't bring a lot, but he'd at least bring a good bullpen pitcher, or in a package some player we'd actually have a use for.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 24, 2021 23:06:20 GMT -5
I hate to say this, but I'd almost be willing at this point to trade Freddie at the deadline and trade Fansby too. There's three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Dansby striking out at least twice per game.
I've detailed before why I think we'll resign Freddie and Dansby both, but I'm so sick of watching this garbage I wouldn't mind a reload on the run and change the persona of this team.
For me to trade anyone, I've got to understand who we replace them with. I would trade my mother, but I want to know a better mom replacement before I do it. I know you know this so don't get me wrong; I am definitely not accusing you of this, but it's easy to say we are done with this guy or that guy, but what is the plan to replace. I am pretty sure we don't have anything better in the pipeline that is ready, and I haven't looked at FA options. Think about this as well... Dansby was tied for 18th in NL MVP voting last season, 20th place amongst all NL players counting the ties, and 9th in MVP candidate WAR using baseball references numbers. (2.7 WAR) I am always for upgrade, but I need to understand plan B
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Post by maverick86 on Jun 24, 2021 23:10:22 GMT -5
Time to be sellers. Not going anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 23:11:33 GMT -5
I hate to say this, but I'd almost be willing at this point to trade Freddie at the deadline and trade Fansby too.
There's three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Dansby striking out at least twice per game.
I've detailed before why I think we'll resign Freddie and Dansby both, but I'm so sick of watching this garbage I wouldn't mind a reload on the run and change the persona of this team.
If you trade Freddie you are prolly looking at Texiera for Kotchman part II. In that case you can take your bag of beans and shove it. Would rather have the compensatory draft selection or nothing. Would not be crazy about trading Morton with the yr he has had. Smyly could be moved he has done a bit better As for Fansby, what do you replace him with Arcia? He too has struggled in MLB not sure he is an upgrade. What does Fansby bring in return Guess the rest of the board is with me that Wright is pretty much a hopeless case as far as this org goes. Would suck if another team can straighten him out Shewmake is not ready and who knows about Waters and Pache. Other than some young pitching depth not a hell of alot in the farm except for Langeliers and Harris. I would not more those two at all. A persona change would be helped with a change in managers but do not know who. Pitching coach needs to be changed too I would be okay with a partial reload. Not another full scale rebuild.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 24, 2021 23:37:49 GMT -5
I hate to say this, but I'd almost be willing at this point to trade Freddie at the deadline and trade Fansby too. There's three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Dansby striking out at least twice per game.
I've detailed before why I think we'll resign Freddie and Dansby both, but I'm so sick of watching this garbage I wouldn't mind a reload on the run and change the persona of this team.
For me to trade anyone, I've got to understand who we replace them with. I would trade my mother, but I want to know a better mom replacement before I do it. I know you know this so don't get me wrong; I am definitely not accusing you of this, but it's easy to say we are done with this guy or that guy, but what is the plan to replace. I am pretty sure we don't have anything better in the pipeline that is ready, and I haven't looked at FA options. Think about this as well... Dansby was tied for 18th in NL MVP voting last season, 20th place amongst all NL players counting the ties, and 9th in MVP candidate WAR using baseball references numbers. (2.7 WAR) I am always for upgrade, but I need to understand plan B Well, to me last year was clearly an outlier year for Dansby. And with all of what he did, he was still just a 1.9 WAR player according to Fangraphs. It's weird how baseball references is always different. In 2019 baseball references called Dansby a 0.9 WAR player while Fangraphs had him at 1.5. The bottom line I think is they aren't far apart for his career WAR. Baseball References has him at 7.3 and Fangraphs at 6.5. That's in the neighborhood of about a 1.6 WAR average per year if you use the 7.3 career WAR and give him about 4.5 seasons of big league time.
You can take every single stat known to mankind and amongst shortstops during Dansby's career he ranks between 15-20th in everything. To me that's about as mediocre as you can get. He had the one elite season with the glove, and to me he hasn't been all that great defensively since then. To me he is as average as you could possibly get.I don't know who we could get to replace him, but finding an average shortstop shouldn't be that difficult. I don't have any suggestions off the top of my head. But perhaps there are people out there who would be willing to take a flier on Dansby that last year can be repeated, but I'm not one of them. Keep in mind last year was only 60 games, so he managed to get thru that without having any of his patented loooooooong slumps and that was very favorable for him. But the slumps are going to happen in a full season, I think we can say that pretty factually. If someone is willing to give us a nice return I'd take it because I'm tired of watching him. My biggest problem with him is his extreme inconsistency. I think it makes his overall numbers less meaningful. All hitters are streaky, but I fell pretty sure he has to be one of the streakiest, and I have a real problem with guys who are so extreme in that regard. I think when a guy has a .590 OPS one month, then .620 the next month, then .950 the next month and follows that with a .650 OPS, his overall OPS is not as realistic as steadier players.
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