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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 8, 2021 21:42:54 GMT -5
To just say you want Wright "out of here" is insane. I am willing to trade but when value is low I would rather let him rebuild value or continue to see if he develops at AAA.
That is a much more... eh... "not crazy" approach.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 8, 2021 22:13:21 GMT -5
Strange happenings with Gwinnett tonight, our prospects had a good day. They won both games of a double header, Touki went 6 innings in the first game gave up 2 hits no walks no earned runs and 11 K's, Waters 2-4 with a double and a triple, Pache 2-3 , Camargo with two doubles. Wright goes all 7 innings of the 2nd game, gives up one hit, one walk, no runs, 6 K's, Waters hits a three run homer and Pache hits a home run.
From June 20th to July 1st Waters went 1-35 with 21 K's (WOW). He dropped .150 on OPS. From July 2nd through tonight he's now 10-28 with 4 doubles a triple and 2 HR's. Only 5 K's during this run, has his OPS back up to .732.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 18, 2021 10:44:47 GMT -5
To make room for Joc Pederson, the Atlanta Braves continued the "Let's F with Camargo's Head Tour" by optioning him back to Gwinnett after keeping him on the MLB roster causing him to miss several games for the Stripers, for no apparent reason.
To make room for Stephen Vogt, the Braves option Jonathan Lucroy back to the Stripers.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Jul 19, 2021 12:43:40 GMT -5
Camargo hasn't been good since 2018. Though it's not entirely his fault imo. Hard to be good when you keep getting shuffled back and forth , and not getting at-bats(or playing time at all for that matter) while up with the big league team. He's had what, 15 at bats with the team this year?
Braves have not handled Camargo well imo. At this stage in the game, I would at least give him Pablo's spot as that guy, as loveable as a teammate he seems to be, just appears to have flat hit a wall, feels like it's literally been a month since his last hit.
Camargo could do that for less money, and him being younger I feel would be more likely to at least run into one here and there.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 19, 2021 13:12:39 GMT -5
Braves recall Sean Newcomb after sending down Minter.
Braves recall Kyle Muller.
Braves place Dunder on the injury (COVID) list.
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Post by PABraveFan on Jul 24, 2021 14:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 24, 2021 15:26:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:38:15 GMT -5
Ender had 5 good yrs in the major leagues. His first two in Arizona and from 2016 to 18 with us
Even though his BA went down to .265 in 2018, he still had a good OBP and overall graded out a 3 WAR
But the leg injuries did him in, I feel bad about it he is a good guy and a once good player
I hope he invested his earnings well. I do not know of a team that might pick him up though its not that much salary left
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 24, 2021 16:06:12 GMT -5
It is amazing that it has taken this long. I can't help but believe they've hung on just because they were paying him so much. I guess when you're the guy paying out that money you're more likely to have some deep hopes that the player is going to bounce back, but it's been pretty obvious for over two years now Ender is shot. He may go somewhere else and get different coaches in his ear that will somehow help him, but it was never going to happen with the Barves organization.
It does speak to how valueless he has become that we can't even hope to throw him in with 2-3 other guys in a package deal, nobody wants to eat that salary for a guy who is just a late inning defensive replacement and pinch runner at this point. IF he can stay healthy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 16:32:03 GMT -5
It is amazing that it has taken this long. I can't help but believe they've hung on just because they were paying him so much. Another factor is that he is still relatively young and the thoughts might be that he could be the good player he was as recently as 2018. It was a quick abrupt decline at a young age. But for now he does look shot. Just wonder how serious those leg and back injuries have been.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 24, 2021 17:04:58 GMT -5
It is amazing that it has taken this long. I can't help but believe they've hung on just because they were paying him so much. Another factor is that he is still relatively young and the thoughts might be that he could be the good player he was as recently as 2018. It was a quick abrupt decline at a young age. But for now he does look shot. Just wonder how serious those leg and back injuries have been. Personally I don't think he's had any injuries that should be so prohibitive, but that's just my opinion.
Part of his problem is that this is the type of thing you see when a player loses confidence in himself. You just can't have that at the major league level, the pitchers are too good. A hitter can't step into the batter's box (2-3 AB's per week) and feel like there's no way he's going to do anything good. It's hard enough when you do believe in yourself. And our fearless leader seems to be good at that confidence attacking game, Adrianza is the latest victim. He's still better this year than any of these other fringe players we have who are playing every day, especially Almonte, and yet he sits on the bench. He's had one start in July. With Snitker, either you are IN the club or you AIN'T. And if you ain't, you ain't gonna be. You might as well just look forward to the day you're playing for another team.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 27, 2021 15:02:11 GMT -5
Fun facts - Every time I see Westie go back and complain some more about the Hart/Coppy era, I am reminded of this..
Hart was with the Braves as Prez part time GM from 2014 to 2017 Coppy was GM from 2015 to October of 2017
Muller - drafted 2016 Anderson - drafted 2016 Max Fried - Traded for December of 2014 Ynoa - Traded for July of 2017 Soroka - drafted 2015
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 27, 2021 16:15:29 GMT -5
Fun facts - Every time I see Westie go back and complain some more about the Hart/Coppy era, I am reminded of this.. Hart was with the Braves as Prez part time GM from 2014 to 2017 Coppy was GM from 2015 to October of 2017 Muller - drafted 2016 Anderson - drafted 2016 Max Fried - Traded for December of 2014 Ynoa - Traded for July of 2017 Soroka - drafted 2015 Another thing about that, you have to give Hart/Coppy credit for the position player prospects they didn't trade away, mainly Acuna and Albies because there were plenty of people wanting to trade both of those players when they were in the minors because they were "just prospects." Both of them were hitting for average and stealing a lot of bases but hadn't shown any propensity for being big power bats until they got to the majors, it would have been easy to deal them because everybody wanted them. Of course not every prospect can blossom the way they did, especially at such young ages....but you don't want to go just throwing prospects away left and right. Bryce Ball is going to be one we're sorry about someday, he's going to be a big HR hitter in MLB. With the DH coming to the NL.....damn.
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Post by hokiedan on Jul 27, 2021 17:32:40 GMT -5
Here are some of the notable bullpen arms available for 2022 free agency.
Kenley Jansen RP 34 S R LAD $20,000,000 -
Andrew Miller RP 37 L L STL $12,000,000 -
Trevor Rosenthal RP 32 R R OAK $11,000,000 -
Brad Hand RP 32 L L WSH $10,500,000 -
Dellin Betances RP 34 R R NYM $6,000,000 -
Jeurys Familia RP 32 R R NYM $11,666,668 -
Adam Ottavino RP 36 S R BOS $7,225,044 -
Joe Kelly RP 34 LAD $12,000,000 -
Raisel Iglesias RP 32 R R LAA $9,125,000 -
Archie Bradley RP 29 R R PHI $6,000,000 -
Felipe Vazquez RP/CL 30 PIT $10,000,000 -
Daniel Hudson RP 35 R R WSH $6,000,000 -
Kirby Yates RP 35 L R TOR $5,500,000 -
Corey Knebel RP 30 R R LAD $5,250,000 -
Hector Neris RP 33 R R PHI $5,000,000 -
Craig Stammen RP 38 SD $4,000,000 -
Mychal Givens RP 32 R R COL $4,050,000 -
Joe Smith RP 38 R R HOU $4,000,000 -
Jake Diekman RP 35 OAK $4,000,000 - Joakim Soria RP 38 R R ARI $3,500,000 -
Daniel Norris RP 29 L L DET $3,475,000 -
Aaron Loup RP 34 L L NYM $3,000,000 -
Brandon Kintzler RP 37 R R PHI $3,000,000 -
Joely Rodriguez RP 30 TEX $3,000,000 -
Just the top twenty-five or so. See any on here AA should make a move for?
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Post by maverick86 on Jul 27, 2021 20:29:33 GMT -5
Time to trade for Kyle Gibson, Daniel Hudson & Marte. Make it happen.
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