Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 8, 2021 22:13:21 GMT -5
Strange happenings with Gwinnett tonight, our prospects had a good day. They won both games of a double header, Touki went 6 innings in the first game gave up 2 hits no walks no earned runs and 11 K's, Waters 2-4 with a double and a triple, Pache 2-3 , Camargo with two doubles. Wright goes all 7 innings of the 2nd game, gives up one hit, one walk, no runs, 6 K's, Waters hits a three run homer and Pache hits a home run.
From June 20th to July 1st Waters went 1-35 with 21 K's (WOW). He dropped .150 on OPS. From July 2nd through tonight he's now 10-28 with 4 doubles a triple and 2 HR's. Only 5 K's during this run, has his OPS back up to .732.
Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 18, 2021 10:44:47 GMT -5
To make room for Joc Pederson, the Atlanta Braves continued the "Let's F with Camargo's Head Tour" by optioning him back to Gwinnett after keeping him on the MLB roster causing him to miss several games for the Stripers, for no apparent reason.
To make room for Stephen Vogt, the Braves option Jonathan Lucroy back to the Stripers.
Post by TomlinFoolery on Jul 19, 2021 12:43:40 GMT -5
Camargo hasn't been good since 2018. Though it's not entirely his fault imo. Hard to be good when you keep getting shuffled back and forth , and not getting at-bats(or playing time at all for that matter) while up with the big league team. He's had what, 15 at bats with the team this year?
Braves have not handled Camargo well imo. At this stage in the game, I would at least give him Pablo's spot as that guy, as loveable as a teammate he seems to be, just appears to have flat hit a wall, feels like it's literally been a month since his last hit.
Camargo could do that for less money, and him being younger I feel would be more likely to at least run into one here and there.
It is amazing that it has taken this long. I can't help but believe they've hung on just because they were paying him so much. I guess when you're the guy paying out that money you're more likely to have some deep hopes that the player is going to bounce back, but it's been pretty obvious for over two years now Ender is shot. He may go somewhere else and get different coaches in his ear that will somehow help him, but it was never going to happen with the Barves organization.
It does speak to how valueless he has become that we can't even hope to throw him in with 2-3 other guys in a package deal, nobody wants to eat that salary for a guy who is just a late inning defensive replacement and pinch runner at this point. IF he can stay healthy.
It is amazing that it has taken this long. I can't help but believe they've hung on just because they were paying him so much.
Another factor is that he is still relatively young and the thoughts might be that he could be the good player he was as recently as 2018.
It was a quick abrupt decline at a young age. But for now he does look shot. Just wonder how serious those leg and back injuries have been.
Personally I don't think he's had any injuries that should be so prohibitive, but that's just my opinion.
Part of his problem is that this is the type of thing you see when a player loses confidence in himself. You just can't have that at the major league level, the pitchers are too good. A hitter can't step into the batter's box (2-3 AB's per week) and feel like there's no way he's going to do anything good. It's hard enough when you do believe in yourself. And our fearless leader seems to be good at that confidence attacking game, Adrianza is the latest victim. He's still better this year than any of these other fringe players we have who are playing every day, especially Almonte, and yet he sits on the bench. He's had one start in July. With Snitker, either you are IN the club or you AIN'T. And if you ain't, you ain't gonna be. You might as well just look forward to the day you're playing for another team.
Fun facts - Every time I see Westie go back and complain some more about the Hart/Coppy era, I am reminded of this..
Hart was with the Braves as Prez part time GM from 2014 to 2017 Coppy was GM from 2015 to October of 2017
Muller - drafted 2016 Anderson - drafted 2016 Max Fried - Traded for December of 2014 Ynoa - Traded for July of 2017 Soroka - drafted 2015
Another thing about that, you have to give Hart/Coppy credit for the position player prospects they didn't trade away, mainly Acuna and Albies because there were plenty of people wanting to trade both of those players when they were in the minors because they were "just prospects." Both of them were hitting for average and stealing a lot of bases but hadn't shown any propensity for being big power bats until they got to the majors, it would have been easy to deal them because everybody wanted them. Of course not every prospect can blossom the way they did, especially at such young ages....but you don't want to go just throwing prospects away left and right. Bryce Ball is going to be one we're sorry about someday, he's going to be a big HR hitter in MLB. With the DH coming to the NL.....damn.