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Post by Cheaters2 on Dec 3, 2019 22:32:46 GMT -5
Will AA trade for David Price? He is on the block and if Sox are willing to pay part of his salary.. And the one thing AA does is revisit guys he has traded for before. It's what he does.
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Post by akod on Dec 4, 2019 12:26:33 GMT -5
We are signing Cole Hamels. One year 18 mil
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Post by keystone61 on Dec 4, 2019 12:58:26 GMT -5
We are signing Cole Hamels. One year 18 mil Probably a good move, all things considered. I wanted Bumgarner, though. Maybe this means we'll bring back Badhaircut?
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Post by turnerfield on Dec 4, 2019 13:05:20 GMT -5
The only big problem I'll have is if we consider Cole to be our "veteran ace" who takes away starts from Soroka next postseason.
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Post by keystone61 on Dec 4, 2019 13:39:17 GMT -5
The only big problem I'll have is if we consider Cole to be our "veteran ace" who takes away starts from Soroka next postseason. Gotta get back to the postseason first.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Dec 4, 2019 13:45:54 GMT -5
The only big problem I'll have is if we consider Cole to be our "veteran ace" who takes away starts from Soroka next postseason. lol, that's probably exactly what will happen.
The one thing I don't like is he only averaged about 5 IP per game last year so he's going to tax our pen. $18M is a lot of money for a guy who isn't anything real special at this point and can only give you 5 innings every game. He'll slide into Julio's spot perfectly in that regard.
I really wish we would have signed Bumgarner instead.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Dec 4, 2019 13:54:33 GMT -5
Hamels has a 3.72 ERA over the last four years combined, 67th among qualifying starters.
He has a 4.01 xFIP during that period, 83rd among qualifying starters.
So he's a #3 starter.
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Post by hokiedan on Dec 4, 2019 14:11:52 GMT -5
Hamels has a 3.72 ERA over the last four years combined, 67th among qualifying starters.
He has a 4.01 xFIP during that period, 83rd among qualifying starters.
So he's a #3 starter.
So the rotation would be... Soroka Fried Hamels Foltynewicz and...? Do you slot Newcomb in as the 5th starter or try Wilson, Wright, Touissant, Anderson...or do they bring back Julio? 😃
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Post by hokiedan on Dec 4, 2019 14:19:49 GMT -5
The only big problem I'll have is if we consider Cole to be our "veteran ace" who takes away starts from Soroka next postseason. lol, that's probably exactly what will happen.
The one thing I don't like is he only averaged about 5 IP per game last year so he's going to tax our pen. $18M is a lot of money for a guy who isn't anything real special at this point and can only give you 5 innings every game. He'll slide into Julio's spot perfectly in that regard.
I really wish we would have signed Bumgarner instead.
You could have gotten the same numbers with Julio for a lot less money. This is aimed at appeasing the fans because of Hamels "name". Perfect example of paying for past performance not future expectations.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Dec 4, 2019 14:25:05 GMT -5
Hamels has a 3.72 ERA over the last four years combined, 67th among qualifying starters.
He has a 4.01 xFIP during that period, 83rd among qualifying starters.
So he's a #3 starter.
So the rotation would be... Soroka Fried Hamels Foltynewicz and...? Do you slot Newcomb in as the 5th starter or try Wilson, Wright, Touissant, Anderson...or do they bring back Julio? 😃 they will start Hamels as the #1 just so it's LH RH LH RH LH. And Hamels is perfect fit to help Fried and Newk learn to pitch
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Post by Cheaters2 on Dec 4, 2019 14:28:09 GMT -5
Hamels puts the braves near 140 mil which means unless they up payroll to about 170ish there is no chance of JD returning... And 18 for Hamels. Does that mean MadBum gets 20..and Wheeler 22. MA. Guys getting pd this yr
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 14:34:29 GMT -5
Liberty is not as cheap as they used to be as long as its a relatively short term contract that makes sense
Hamels deal makes sense for one year
Darnaud made sense for two yrs
Smith, more long term for 3 yrs well, they closed on that one early and 3 yrs is not prohibitive & they got a quality reliever
Now, if Newcomb can come back as a SP, should be in good shape for 2020
I guess Mad Bum will be in the multi yr 20 plus mil category.
And, the top prospects like Wright and Anderson are staying put so all in all good work by Alex this off season
Time will tell if there is enough room to keep JD, but its not in this organization's DNA to get into a 4 or 5 yr deal for a guy his age. And I would not do it if I were in their position
Hamels can be a mentor to our younger lefties too, All makes sense
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 14:41:05 GMT -5
Hamels puts the braves near 140 mil which means unless they up payroll to about 170ish there is no chance of JD returning... And 18 for Hamels. Does that mean MadBum gets 20..and Wheeler 22. MA. Guys getting pd this yr Look what a bum like Pomerantz got and how inconsistent and injury prone he has been. He got 4 yrs for what, 34? Mad Bum and Wheeler deserve 20 plus in that case As for third base we have to hope Riley is ready to be more consistent and can make adjustments - he got overmatched once he got figured out after the hot start - maybe Camargo can play more this time around
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 14:44:37 GMT -5
What will Teheran get is a good question. He is better than some gave him credit for, if a bum like Pomerantz can get 4/34 and Porcello get a multi yr deal in the 12 or so mil a yr range (MLB network talk) than can Julio get in the 12 to 15 mil per range?
I don't know, but JT does give you 175 IP and 10 ish wins a yr, that is a very respectable SP in today's game
Oh yes, an ERA below 4 too
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Post by Cheaters2 on Dec 4, 2019 14:45:40 GMT -5
Hamels puts the braves near 140 mil which means unless they up payroll to about 170ish there is no chance of JD returning... And 18 for Hamels. Does that mean MadBum gets 20..and Wheeler 22. MA. Guys getting pd this yr Look what a bum like Pomerantz got and how inconsistent and injury prone he has been. He got 4 yrs for what, 34? Mad Bum and Wheeler deserve 20 plus in that case As for third base we have to hope Riley is ready to be more consistent and can make adjustments - he got overmatched once he got figured out after the hot start - maybe Camargo can play more this time around I am fine with Camargo get full time slot at 3B the adjustment in his swing he made at AAA I think will make him a25+ HR guy but I think AA will have to trade for someone to hit behind Freeman.
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