akod
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Post by akod on Nov 21, 2019 21:11:10 GMT -5
You would think the surplus value calculator would at least get some of these guys stuck in the early 2000s mentality in the right ballpark. Nope! Still proposing selling the farm.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 21, 2019 21:20:23 GMT -5
You would think the surplus value calculator would at least get some of these guys stuck in the early 2000s mentality in the right ballpark. Nope! Still proposing selling the farm. It's funny because it's a 180 from what the Braves have said they were going to do all along, and everything they have actually done since the first said what they were going to do. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 21, 2019 21:58:05 GMT -5
It's definitely a bad proposal, and isn't Bryant a pretty average defender? I mean, he's a good player, but I don't think he's that good. Bad proposal doesn’t do it justice. When you look at our value, Bryant is worth about $20 million and the Braves package is worth about $142 million. It’s something I’d expect to see on FB or in a mlbtraderumors comment section. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 21, 2019 23:13:33 GMT -5
Okay but seriously what do you guys think about Pache, Waters, Contreras, Langeliers, Anderson, Muller, Wilson, Wright and Riley for Scherzer? I mean seriously, there's our ace and we have the useless prospects who have nothing but potential that we can afford to throw away to get him! Pitchers like Scherzer don't come along every day, you gotta grab one when you can!
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 21, 2019 23:18:57 GMT -5
So, just listened to AA on MLB Radio. Here are some highlights...
(Admittingly, some of these things you already know.)
- Braves felt the need to sign some relievers early because they went into the off-season needing to fill 11 spots, and wanted to get some of those out of the way early.
- Braves are definitely in the market for a 3rd baseman, but it's basically not the worst thing in the world to start the season with Riley and Camargo fighting for the spot.
- Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Didn't name names.
- Braves are in the market for a catcher.
- Braves are comfortable with Soroka/Fried/Folty, Newk wanted a chance to start, and the Braves will give him that chance, but it's not a given that he'll get a spot. He has to earn it.
- No information about payroll.
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Post by akod on Nov 21, 2019 23:22:03 GMT -5
But that doesn’t leave much for Trout? So Acuna, Albies, Fried, and Soroka should get them interested. Acuna MIGHT become a generational player. Trout IS a generational top 5 ever player that you have to get when the opportunity knocks. He can single handedly carry a team.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 21, 2019 23:27:39 GMT -5
So, just listened to AA on MLB Radio. Here are some highlights... (Admittingly, some of these things you already know.) - Braves felt the need to sign some relievers early because they went into the off-season needing to fill 11 spots, and wanted to get some of those out of the way early. - Braves are definitely in the market for a 3rd baseman, but it's basically not the worst thing in the world to start the season with Riley and Camargo fighting for the spot. - Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Didn't name names.
- Braves are in the market for a catcher.- Braves are comfortable with Soroka/Fried/Folty, Newk wanted a chance to start, and the Braves will give him that chance, but it's not a given that he'll get a spot. He has to earn it. - No information about payroll. Well I hope the radio host told AA that the guy we needed signed with the White Sox already. There's a bunch of sub mediocre options left now.....unless we cough up some of those useless prospects.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading Inciarte in some sort of deal for a good catcher, and/or Camargo if they aren't going to play him. Wouldn't mind seeing Dansby traded in a deal for a good catcher or a good SP and sign Didi. Gregorious is expected get a three year deal. That could bridge us to Shewmake or some other option we can come up with along the way. In my opinion I do not see Dansby as a guy we should count on to be a part of our future foundation. Wayyyyy too inconsistent.
But I know I'm dreaming big time, Inciarte and Dansby are two of Snitker's favorite baseball player guys and they aren't going anywhere.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 22, 2019 1:05:29 GMT -5
- Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Exactly what I've been saying: "For depth". They are looking for a 2nd or 3rd tier vet to be an inning eater around the 4th... maybe 3rd if they get lucky rotation spot. Dreams of a TOR guy need to be put on a shelf. Quite frankly... I think that is the right approach, so no negativity from me at all about it. Our TOR guys are going to come internally unless we just strike gold with a rebound veteran who comes up huge. My preference is JD at 3rd, but highly unlikely at this point. It will end up being Moose unless his market gets silly and then we will roll with Camariley... which isn't the end of the world either. We need to make finding a catcher a priority because Flowers sucks. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 22, 2019 1:16:02 GMT -5
So, just listened to AA on MLB Radio. Here are some highlights... (Admittingly, some of these things you already know.) - Braves felt the need to sign some relievers early because they went into the off-season needing to fill 11 spots, and wanted to get some of those out of the way early. - Braves are definitely in the market for a 3rd baseman, but it's basically not the worst thing in the world to start the season with Riley and Camargo fighting for the spot. - Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Didn't name names.
- Braves are in the market for a catcher.- Braves are comfortable with Soroka/Fried/Folty, Newk wanted a chance to start, and the Braves will give him that chance, but it's not a given that he'll get a spot. He has to earn it. - No information about payroll. Well I hope the radio host told AA that the guy we needed signed with the White Sox already. There's a bunch of sub mediocre options left now.....unless we cough up some of those useless prospects.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading Inciarte in some sort of deal for a good catcher, and/or Camargo if they aren't going to play him. Wouldn't mind seeing Dansby traded in a deal for a good catcher or a good SP and sign Didi. Gregorious is expected get a three year deal. That could bridge us to Shewmake or some other option we can come up with along the way. In my opinion I do not see Dansby as a guy we should count on to be a part of our future foundation. Wayyyyy too inconsistent.
But I know I'm dreaming big time, Inciarte and Dansby are two of Snitker's favorite baseball player guys and they aren't going anywhere.
Ya, but said catcher signed with a team that plays it's Spring Training games in........Arizona. Happy wife, happy life. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 22, 2019 1:25:28 GMT -5
- Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Exactly what I've been saying: "For depth". They are looking for a 2nd or 3rd tier vet to be an inning eater around the 4th... maybe 3rd if they get lucky rotation spot. Dreams of a TOR guy need to be put on a shelf. Quite frankly... I think that is the right approach, so no negativity from me at all about it. Our TOR guys are going to come internally unless we just strike gold with a rebound veteran who comes up huge. My preference is JD at 3rd, but highly unlikely at this point. It will end up being Moose unless his market gets silly and then we will roll with Camariley... which isn't the end of the world either. We need to make finding a catcher a priority because Flowers sucks. Totally agree. No need to sign or trade for an ACE when the Braves already have one (Soroka) and have a young guy on the cusp of being a solid #2 (Fried). Not to mention, if Folty gets it all clicking, he's a TOR starter; not an ace, but a solid TOR. Unfortunately, you're probably right about JD, but who knows what could happen. Catcher is a position of need, but it's also a weak position around baseball right now. I'm probably okay with Avila, Castro, or Chirinos. At the same time, I would love to get Contreras from the Cubs. 3 years of control, not too expensive. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 22, 2019 1:28:21 GMT -5
- Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Exactly what I've been saying: "For depth". They are looking for a 2nd or 3rd tier vet to be an inning eater around the 4th... maybe 3rd if they get lucky rotation spot. Dreams of a TOR guy need to be put on a shelf. Quite frankly... I think that is the right approach, so no negativity from me at all about it. Our TOR guys are going to come internally unless we just strike gold with a rebound veteran who comes up huge. My preference is JD at 3rd, but highly unlikely at this point. It will end up being Moose unless his market gets silly and then we will roll with Camariley... which isn't the end of the world either. We need to make finding a catcher a priority because Flowers sucks. How do we go about getting a good catcher now?
Now that the Brewers have lost Grandal, aren't they more likely to make a crazy offer to Moustakas so they don't lose a decent player? I'm not so sure they have many good options to replace him, whereas I feel like we can get by with Riley/Camargo and use the money somewhere else.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 22, 2019 1:29:12 GMT -5
Well I hope the radio host told AA that the guy we needed signed with the White Sox already. There's a bunch of sub mediocre options left now.....unless we cough up some of those useless prospects.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading Inciarte in some sort of deal for a good catcher, and/or Camargo if they aren't going to play him. Wouldn't mind seeing Dansby traded in a deal for a good catcher or a good SP and sign Didi. Gregorious is expected get a three year deal. That could bridge us to Shewmake or some other option we can come up with along the way. In my opinion I do not see Dansby as a guy we should count on to be a part of our future foundation. Wayyyyy too inconsistent.
But I know I'm dreaming big time, Inciarte and Dansby are two of Snitker's favorite baseball player guys and they aren't going anywhere.
Ya, but said catcher signed with a team that plays it's Spring Training games in........Arizona. Happy wife, happy life. Yeah but womens also like $80M more than they do $73M so there's that! |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 22, 2019 1:29:59 GMT -5
So, just listened to AA on MLB Radio. Here are some highlights... (Admittingly, some of these things you already know.) - Braves felt the need to sign some relievers early because they went into the off-season needing to fill 11 spots, and wanted to get some of those out of the way early. - Braves are definitely in the market for a 3rd baseman, but it's basically not the worst thing in the world to start the season with Riley and Camargo fighting for the spot. - Braves are in the market for a starting pitcher, for depth, via free agency or trade. Braves feel comfortable with some of the young pitching prospects coming up. Didn't name names.
- Braves are in the market for a catcher.- Braves are comfortable with Soroka/Fried/Folty, Newk wanted a chance to start, and the Braves will give him that chance, but it's not a given that he'll get a spot. He has to earn it. - No information about payroll. Well I hope the radio host told AA that the guy we needed signed with the White Sox already. There's a bunch of sub mediocre options left now.....unless we cough up some of those useless prospects.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading Inciarte in some sort of deal for a good catcher, and/or Camargo if they aren't going to play him. Wouldn't mind seeing Dansby traded in a deal for a good catcher or a good SP and sign Didi. Gregorious is expected get a three year deal. That could bridge us to Shewmake or some other option we can come up with along the way. In my opinion I do not see Dansby as a guy we should count on to be a part of our future foundation. Wayyyyy too inconsistent.
But I know I'm dreaming big time, Inciarte and Dansby are two of Snitker's favorite baseball player guys and they aren't going anywhere.
There really aren't that many good catchers, and less teams that would trade one. I think if the Braves were to entertain trading all of the players you mentioned (particularly Dansby) then it would need to be for someone crazy, like Lindor. |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 22, 2019 1:33:55 GMT -5
Ya, but said catcher signed with a team that plays it's Spring Training games in........Arizona. Happy wife, happy life. Yeah but womens also like $80M more than they do $73M so there's that! Do you think the Braves even entertained the idea of 4-years, $80 million? I don't think they have THAT MUCH money in the coffers. I gotta believe it was either Grandal or JD and Grandal went a bit too early for their liking. I think they would have entertained it a couple of months from now, or as soon as JD signed with another team, but Grandal acted fast. Can't blame him for that, but now the Braves really better re-sign JD, or at the very least, make a trade for a guy who makes that much money, take on the salary, and give up less in prospects...if such a player exists. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 22, 2019 1:50:09 GMT -5
Yeah but womens also like $80M more than they do $73M so there's that! Do you think the Braves even entertained the idea of 4-years, $80 million? I don't think they have THAT MUCH money in the coffers. I gotta believe it was either Grandal or JD and Grandal went a bit too early for their liking. I think they would have entertained it a couple of months from now, or as soon as JD signed with another team, but Grandal acted fast. Can't blame him for that, but now the Braves really better re-sign JD, or at the very least, make a trade for a guy who makes that much money, take on the salary, and give up less in prospects...if such a player exists. Well I think JD is going to get around $80M for 4 years.
I know what you're saying that it may have complicated things for us that Grandal went so early, but we needed to tell JD hey we need to have an answer right now and if you aren't willing to commit we have to take our shot at Grandal. And maybe that actually happened for all we know.
I wasn't suggesting we trade Ender, Camargo and Dansby for a catcher, just one of them.
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