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Post by keystone61 on Nov 12, 2019 12:23:19 GMT -5
Contreras is a putz. There's a REASON the Cubs are thinking about moving him, and it ain't because he can't play. I'd proceed with caution there if I were los Bravos.
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Post by PABraveFan on Nov 12, 2019 14:09:50 GMT -5
Rangers may offer Donaldson 4yr deal... Does that move us off him? I would say yes depending on the money involved. My preference is for 2/$45M with a team option of $20M for a 3rd year. At most I can see 3/$60M and a $15M team option for a 4th year.). I might go to 4/$72M but only if pushed very hard. Still think that is too high. IMO, anything more than those amounts is too much and maybe those are even too much if I were to think long and hard about it.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Nov 12, 2019 14:20:56 GMT -5
Rangers may offer Donaldson 4yr deal... Does that move us off him? I would say yes depending on the money involved. My preference is for 2/$45M with a team option of $20M for a 3rd year. At most I can see 3/$60M and a $15M team option for a 4th year.). I might go to 4/$72M but only if pushed very hard. Still think that is too high. IMO, anything more than those amounts is too much and maybe those are even too much if I were to think long and hard about it. Age and injury history would keep me away from a 4 year offer. Even a straight 3 year offer would make me hesitant. I'd only go 2 with a 3rd year team option. If he walks, so be it.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 12, 2019 14:34:44 GMT -5
I would say yes depending on the money involved. My preference is for 2/$45M with a team option of $20M for a 3rd year. At most I can see 3/$60M and a $15M team option for a 4th year.). I might go to 4/$72M but only if pushed very hard. Still think that is too high. IMO, anything more than those amounts is too much and maybe those are even too much if I were to think long and hard about it. Age and injury history would keep me away from a 4 year offer. Even a straight 3 year offer would make me hesitant. I'd only go 2 with a 3rd year team option. If he walks, so be it. Like I said, if DH were an option, it would be a bit different. I hate to lose him, but 4 years seems like a bad deal waiting to happen. Who knows?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 12, 2019 15:02:53 GMT -5
I’d rather sign Grandal and let JD move on. Rely on Riley/Camargo to cover 3B.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Nov 12, 2019 15:22:50 GMT -5
We've talked a lot about the hitting side, but what do you guys think we need to do to get our pitching to a higher level? Cole is not going to be a realistic option IMO, and neither will Strasburg. Mad Bum doesn't overly excite me, especially given how poorly he pitched away from pitcher friendly SF last year. Wheeler? Hamels? Odorizzi? They would probably help, but are they the difference maker that our rotation needs?
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Post by hokiedan on Nov 12, 2019 16:16:50 GMT -5
We've talked a lot about the hitting side, but what do you guys think we need to do to get our pitching to a higher level? Cole is not going to be a realistic option IMO, and neither will Strasburg. Mad Bum doesn't overly excite me, especially given how poorly he pitched away from pitcher friendly SF last year. Wheeler? Hamels? Odorizzi? They would probably help, but are they the difference maker that our rotation needs? Yeah...Cole and Strasburg are not realistic, and unfortunately Wheeler has become a hot commodity so he might be out of the question. The two names that are linked to the Braves right now are Hamel and Bumgardner. The Braves will probably settle for one of these and overpay for them.
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 12, 2019 18:36:41 GMT -5
A quick hitting fix -- "The Astros have come under scrutiny once again, this time on the heels of an in-depth report by Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic (subscription required), wherein four former employees, including right-hander Mike Fiers, detailed an extensive sign-stealing operation enacted by the team during the 2017 season.
The Astros, per the report, would utilize a center-field camera fixated on the catcher and a television monitor placed in the clubhouse tunnel near the dugout steps to try to decode an opponent’s signs. An Astros employee or player would then at times signal the type of pitch that was coming with a loud sound — typically banging on a trash can to alert the hitter of an offspeed or breaking pitch. Fiers, who was non-tendered by Houston following the 2017 season, confirmed that setup when interviewed by The Athletic. He added that upon leaving the organization, he warned his future Tigers and Athletics teammates of the practice."
“I just want the game to be cleaned up a little bit because there are guys who are losing their jobs because they’re going in there not knowing,” Fiers explained to The Athletic. “Young guys getting hit around in the first couple of innings starting a game, and then they get sent down. It’s (B.S.) on that end. It’s ruining jobs for younger guys"
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 12, 2019 21:33:39 GMT -5
AA says Newk will come into ST stretched out and have a chance in the rotation.
Also, it’s predicted MadBum will get somewhere around 4-years, $64 million. Braves predicted as team to sign him.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 12, 2019 22:02:50 GMT -5
AA says Newk will come into ST stretched out and have a chance in the rotation. Also, it’s predicted MadBum will get somewhere around 4-years, $64 million. Braves predicted as team to sign him. That's quite a gamble with MadBum. I'd still like to have him even though he's not the pitcher he once was. I don't think he'll approach ace level again but he could still be pretty good. One thing we know for sure he'd throw at the Cardinals next year and be willing to fight the entire team by himself if he has to, he won't puss out.
Strasburg is actually older than Bumgarner. Isn't that bizarre?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 12, 2019 22:21:54 GMT -5
We've just learned for a fact MadBum will not be returning to the Giants, they've just named Classless Dick their new manager. How can they be that stupid?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 12, 2019 22:23:23 GMT -5
AA says Newk will come into ST stretched out and have a chance in the rotation. Also, it’s predicted MadBum will get somewhere around 4-years, $64 million. Braves predicted as team to sign him. That's quite a gamble with MadBum. I'd still like to have him even though he's not the pitcher he once was. I don't think he'll approach ace level again but he could still be pretty good. One thing we know for sure he'd throw at the Cardinals next year and be willing to fight the entire team by himself if he has to, he won't puss out.
Strasburg is actually older than Bumgarner. Isn't that bizarre?
That’s really bizarre, crazy even. Really, what it comes down to is if the Braves think MadBum is worth roughly 8.0 WAR over those 4 years. If he is, it’s a good deal, except for the loss of draft pick, but Braves are in win now, so if they lose a pick, I won’t be upset. If Braves sign JD and MadBum, and solidify the bullpen, I’ll be okay. I’d be even better if they got Grandal, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen, TBH. Too many suitors.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 12, 2019 22:37:55 GMT -5
That's quite a gamble with MadBum. I'd still like to have him even though he's not the pitcher he once was. I don't think he'll approach ace level again but he could still be pretty good. One thing we know for sure he'd throw at the Cardinals next year and be willing to fight the entire team by himself if he has to, he won't puss out.
Strasburg is actually older than Bumgarner. Isn't that bizarre?
That’s really bizarre, crazy even. Really, what it comes down to is if the Braves think MadBum is worth roughly 8.0 WAR over those 4 years. If he is, it’s a good deal, except for the loss of draft pick, but Braves are in win now, so if they lose a pick, I won’t be upset. If Braves sign JD and MadBum, and solidify the bullpen, I’ll be okay. I’d be even better if they got Grandal, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen, TBH. Too many suitors. No way I'd give JD 4 years. I'd rather stretch the money out and sign Grandal.
But I do believe I was the one who said many times I wouldn't be surprised if JD got a deal for more that three years.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 12, 2019 22:44:16 GMT -5
That’s really bizarre, crazy even. Really, what it comes down to is if the Braves think MadBum is worth roughly 8.0 WAR over those 4 years. If he is, it’s a good deal, except for the loss of draft pick, but Braves are in win now, so if they lose a pick, I won’t be upset. If Braves sign JD and MadBum, and solidify the bullpen, I’ll be okay. I’d be even better if they got Grandal, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen, TBH. Too many suitors. No way I'd give JD 4 years. I'd rather stretch the money out and sign Grandal.
But I do believe I was the one who said many times I wouldn't be surprised if JD got a deal for more that three years. Well, IMO if they don’t get JD, then, for me, no MadBum, cause if they can’t get JD then they must get Grandal, and I don’t want to see the Braves give up two draft picks for MadBum and Grandal. Basically, it’d need to be Grandal and a trade for a TOR, or a one-year deal for Cole Hamels.
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Post by mauibravefan on Nov 12, 2019 23:25:38 GMT -5
ERA W L SV SVO GP GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG Home 2.93 6 2 0 0 19 19 0 122.2 93 43 40 15 21 120 .213 Away 5.29 3 7 0 0 15 15 0 85.0 98 56 50 15 22 83 .286
Madbums 2019 splits
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