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Post by keystone61 on Jan 27, 2020 8:10:23 GMT -5
Looks like a really nice venue. Question..........why not wait until the Braves are there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 13:16:33 GMT -5
]I think they learned from the past- Liberty went all in on Tex, JD to win NOW-crushed their future (meanwhile the angels show us just how valuable a compensation pick is). Uggla, Melvin, and trade for Justin- failed. Even if we won a championship, it’s all about what have you done for me lately to generate revenue of butts in the seats. IMO Liberty is on the same page with the fans whether we realize it or not. Suntrust is closer to their base with an amazing fan experience. The battery is asset they own that is getting paid off rapidly, win win. Longterm success yields revenue for sure but also helps strengthen a valuation of the team. They bought a dynasty turned dud, sure all teams became more valuable over they years but not from their own doing in most cases. In order to sell high one day (trust me they can find another tax incentive company to buy) they need to appear in October for years to come and avoid the “win now” mentality. Truist and the battery is one of the top 5 things that has happened to ATL Braves in its ATL history Only things I rate above it is 1991 story and turnaround season, the 95 WS championship and of course Hank Aaron's number 715. So guess Truist and the battery is ranked number 4 in my book Plenty of discussion to show how positive this had been overall |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 27, 2020 14:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by wncbravesfan on Jan 27, 2020 23:03:29 GMT -5
Looks like a really nice venue. Question..........why not wait until the Braves are there? We are visiting my son and our now 1 yr old grandson in Orlando and decided to check out the Stadium and complex. NICE. We have tix for the March 13th game.... |
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Post by PABraveFan on Jan 28, 2020 8:49:45 GMT -5
TODAY is the day I visit the Braves spring training venue in North Port, Fla !!! What happened to the plans for the one near Port St. Lucie??? |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 29, 2020 13:53:42 GMT -5
Bryant officially has 2 years of control left. Braves pursuit? Yay or nay? I'm a nay.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 29, 2020 14:25:53 GMT -5
Bryant officially has 2 years of control left. Braves pursuit? Yay or nay? I'm a nay. I think they’ll pursue. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 29, 2020 14:40:41 GMT -5
Bryant officially has 2 years of control left. Braves pursuit? Yay or nay? I'm a nay. Depends on what they want in return. They really have the luxury of not being in a spot where they HAVE to move him, they aren't rebuilding, they can dangle him and if somebody wants to give up 3-4 really good players/prospects then they can take it. I expect I won't want to give up what it will take to get him. I would bet it would be two of Waters/Anderson/Wright/Riley type of thing and then one or two other pieces. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 29, 2020 14:44:23 GMT -5
The guy definitely has some question marks regarding his back, he's been a negative UZR/150 player the last two years and been a 2.3 and 4.8 WAR player those two years. Not a slouch, but not an elite level with no question marks that I'm willing to give up 3-4 really good pieces for in return for two years of service.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 29, 2020 14:49:51 GMT -5
Fangraphs had Bryant at 2.3 and 4.8 WAR the last two years, they're my default because I can navigate their entire site so much easier, Baseball Reference actually has his WAR at 1.9 and 3.6 the last two years.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 29, 2020 15:07:10 GMT -5
Fangraphs had Bryant at 2.3 and 4.8 WAR the last two years, they're my default because I can navigate their entire site so much easier, Baseball Reference actually has his WAR at 1.9 and 3.6 the last two years. That much variance in WAR tells me WAR is pretty useless. A stat should be a stat should be a stat. Anyway, I'm not against pursuing him, but if the price is something like Riley, Waters, and Wright +, which I suspect it will be, I'm out. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 29, 2020 16:25:50 GMT -5
Fangraphs had Bryant at 2.3 and 4.8 WAR the last two years, they're my default because I can navigate their entire site so much easier, Baseball Reference actually has his WAR at 1.9 and 3.6 the last two years. That much variance in WAR tells me WAR is pretty useless. A stat should be a stat should be a stat. Anyway, I'm not against pursuing him, but if the price is something like Riley, Waters, and Wright +, which I suspect it will be, I'm out. I don't have a problem with the two sites having different numbers, it's never been an exact science. It's just a good way to compare players. To me if you want to compare one player against the other just make sure you use the same site. They just have different formulas, which is fine by me since it's just a rough comparison. |
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 29, 2020 16:50:03 GMT -5
That much variance in WAR tells me WAR is pretty useless. A stat should be a stat should be a stat. Anyway, I'm not against pursuing him, but if the price is something like Riley, Waters, and Wright +, which I suspect it will be, I'm out. I don't have a problem with the two sites having different numbers, it's never been an exact science. It's just a good way to compare players. To me if you want to compare one player against the other just make sure you use the same site. They just have different formulas, which is fine by me since it's just a rough comparison. Stop,there is no need for logic here ,it reduces the relevance of arrogation |
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 29, 2020 17:19:48 GMT -5
That much variance in WAR tells me WAR is pretty useless. A stat should be a stat should be a stat. Anyway, I'm not against pursuing him, but if the price is something like Riley, Waters, and Wright +, which I suspect it will be, I'm out. I don't have a problem with the two sites having different numbers, it's never been an exact science. It's just a good way to compare players. To me if you want to compare one player against the other just make sure you use the same site. They just have different formulas, which is fine by me since it's just a rough comparison. So, it's not a stat, because stats don't vary. Not an exact science........hmmm. What exactly is it? An opinion? How can there be that much difference? OPS is REAL. That's why I like it. Anyway, I don't wanna argue about WAR. I wanna argue about Kris Bryant! LMAO |
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 29, 2020 17:41:20 GMT -5
Bryant officially has 2 years of control left. Braves pursuit? Yay or nay? I'm a nay. I’m in the stable with you |
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