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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 15, 2020 0:31:04 GMT -5
One last thing, McCann had to have known about the cheating, with the Astros, and said nothing. In my eyes, his legacy is forever tarnished. Are all the players who knew about steroid use,didn't use but did not report it, sullied also? |
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 15, 2020 0:42:55 GMT -5
One last thing, McCann had to have known about the cheating, with the Astros, and said nothing. In my eyes, his legacy is forever tarnished. Are all the players who knew about steroid use,didn't use but did not report it, sullied also? I went back and looked at some video, to, honestly, confirm if either McCann knew, and stayed quiet, or was an active participant. I suppose there is an internal pressure to not say anything, and I would be a bit more lenient on a player if he stayed quiet; even though Mike Fiers didn't. If you go back and watch some of the clips, you can hear the banging during McCann's at-bats. He knew and was an active participant. Check out 5:18 of this video And check out 22:50 of this video |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 15, 2020 5:29:37 GMT -5
Did they ever determine if the vibrating Band aids were a real thing
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 15, 2020 7:59:35 GMT -5
Of course McCann knew. He'd have to be a complete moron not to know. That doesn't mean he was complicit or an active participant, but he knew. They all knew.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 15, 2020 8:30:05 GMT -5
I wonder if the best route now is to work out a trade with Pittsburgh for Marte. I've heard that they are looking for a catcher, so maybe Contreras and a pitcher could get it done. Trade Ender and plug Marte in at CF. Not ideal, but not horrible.
RF Acuna
2B Albies
1B Freeman
CF Marte
LF Markakis / Duvall
3B Camargo / Riley
SS Swanson
C d'Arnaud
Also, the only OF position locked in would be Acuna, so it would leave room for when Pache and/or Waters are ready
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:50:41 GMT -5
This sign stealing thing better be applied to all teams, including Manfed's favorite sons the Yankees
Seems like Jeter got a free pass tearing down that Marlin's team to nothing, but he is a Yankee and Manfred is another hack NY lawyer, so NY teams get a free pass
What ever qualified Manfred to hold this office, will be a good day for Manfred when he is gone
Remember how this SOB screwed our franchise in that over the top C oppygate punishment so I hate Manfred he is bad for the game
I don't think this sign thing is that big a deal, who does not do it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:57:20 GMT -5
Well, JD is gone and he got less than 100 over 4 yrs
Not that stupid of money based on last yr, but our brain trust choose not to step up and keep the rainman - seems like our braintrust was on the cheap side on this one
Riley better be good or else our team will not be as good - why do we go with Riley/Camargo well the price is right
They are not trading prospects to get a Bryant or Arenado and I can see why for just one or two yrs of control
Gives me another reason to keep watching the games on TV. For mow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:59:57 GMT -5
I'm glad we did not spend that kind of money on him at this point of his career. At 100 plus, yes, but I am sure we were offering less Hey, if Riley is much better yes, I am glad our guys did not do that but its a gamble Guess the debt service has to be taken care of so it is what it is |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 9:02:38 GMT -5
I could care less if they trade for Marte, as it stands our team better be prepared for a bit of a step back one way or the other unless someone steps way up
85 to 88 wins, that is a fair prediction - won't be bad but --
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 15, 2020 9:15:06 GMT -5
Donaldson for 4 years would be a bigger gamble than giving Riley his shot. If you give him his shot and he fails, you can still do something else. If Badhaircut fails, you're screwed.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 15, 2020 10:45:54 GMT -5
Donaldson for 4 years would be a bigger gamble than giving Riley his shot. If you give him his shot and he fails, you can still do something else. If Badhaircut fails, you're screwed. That's not exactly true. If badhaircut failed then you insert Riley/Camargo or do whatever else you would do if they were to fail. The money doesn't necessarily "screw" you from any other options. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 15, 2020 10:50:29 GMT -5
Donaldson for 4 years would be a bigger gamble than giving Riley his shot. If you give him his shot and he fails, you can still do something else. If Badhaircut fails, you're screwed. That's not exactly true. If badhaircut failed then you insert Riley/Camargo or do whatever else you would do if they were to fail. The money doesn't necessarily "screw" you from any other options. But it’s still a lot of wasted money that could have been used elsewhere on two really good players. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 15, 2020 10:51:08 GMT -5
I wonder if the best route now is to work out a trade with Pittsburgh for Marte. I've heard that they are looking for a catcher, so maybe Contreras and a pitcher could get it done. Trade Ender and plug Marte in at CF. Not ideal, but not horrible. RF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman CF Marte LF Markakis / Duvall 3B Camargo / Riley SS Swanson C d'Arnaud Also, the only OF position locked in would be Acuna, so it would leave room for when Pache and/or Waters are ready This has my full approval. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 10:53:20 GMT -5
Donaldson for 4 years would be a bigger gamble than giving Riley his shot. If you give him his shot and he fails, you can still do something else. If Badhaircut fails, you're screwed. I do get that, but one thing is for certain, a big bat in the middle of the Braves lineup who was a very important part of a very good team last yr will be missing in 2020 Can Riley do much better - that is something we can find out. A performance like what Badhaircut gave us last yr (and he did more than many of us expected) is not that easy to replace Doing something else? In my opinion, its not in the DNA of the operation of this franchise to move prospects to get a Bryant or Arenado under all the circumstances that are around them, so to me that is out of the picture. And that might not be the wrong move, Only the future can tell whether this is right or wrong. For now, there are no other FA options, the low cost guys are not there now that Frazier has signed so for now its go as you are and wait and see JD was a heck of a player last yr - for now this does look weaker for 2020, and hey, Braves are not that far away but it will take money and guts to get this franchise to the next level. Do they have it in them - I do not know This is a very cost conscious org, that how its done. All bad contracts cost is money while trading for someone does cost talent, namely other teams want the prospects you wish to keep I ain't freaking out - well yes, I am but we will see, this is not really a good day from the point of players on the team, I do not care about money, I want to win truth be told |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 10:54:57 GMT -5
That's not exactly true. If badhaircut failed then you insert Riley/Camargo or do whatever else you would do if they were to fail. The money doesn't necessarily "screw" you from any other options. But it’s still a lot of wasted money that could have been used elsewhere on two really good players. It might not be wasted, JD could be a Beltre who had his best yrs in his mid to late 30's But it does give Alex flexibility and he does use it during the season, but I do not want an overpay of talent for a Bryant type |
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