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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 30, 2019 21:46:22 GMT -5
It is an overpay, and they know it.... but no one is going to give us anything for some AA scrub.
Of course they were not as high on him as others, but again they can afford an overpay when dealing from a position where they have a lot of organizational depth.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 30, 2019 22:02:06 GMT -5
The Cleveland Indians--"man, that Trevor Bauer is a complete head case, let's get him outta here! I know, let's trade him for Puig!"
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Post by bourjosgeorge on Jul 30, 2019 22:05:20 GMT -5
Ole Puiggy-poo
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Post by akod on Jul 30, 2019 22:28:30 GMT -5
Says a lot about the state of our lower minors. Be weary of a deal that sends a couple of the “surplus” prospects we have. We have no reinforcements on the horizon.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 30, 2019 22:37:13 GMT -5
Just watched the Reds/Pirates brawl...
Amir Garrett is going to face a multi-fame suspension.. Probably Puig as well.
Garrett charged the Pirates dugout by himself and just started throwing haymakers. Puig jumped in because he's just an idiot.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 30, 2019 22:51:16 GMT -5
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 30, 2019 23:14:46 GMT -5
It is an overpay, and they know it.... but no one is going to give us anything for some AA scrub. Of course they were not as high on him as others, but again they can afford an overpay when dealing from a position where they have a lot of organizational depth. AA scrub? He’s a 21-year old in AAA. I’m saying, normally that means something, the kid still has room to grow and get better, but the Braves clearly didn’t see that happening. Don’t get me wrong, the kid did have little value at the moment and the Braves were trading from a position of strength. It’s, just, to me, this was one of those “win now” moves. It just wouldn’t surprise me a couple of years from now if Allard has more value than he currently possesses. Not really trashing the deal, just think the Braves gave up on the kid a bit early. On further thought, I wonder what his value would be if the Braves had kept him in AA, where his stats would have more than likely been better. We’ll never know, of course, but I suspect he’d have more value than he does now.
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Post by turnerfield on Jul 30, 2019 23:18:16 GMT -5
By the way who did the Padres get in all this? Just seems like an average minor league hitter and that's all.
I wonder if the Reds try to trade Bauer now.
I'm also predicting right now that the Braves don't do anymore than possibly one more move similar to the one they just made or even more underwhelming. Attain one more arm who can help.
Can't blame AA for not wanting to give up the farm just yet.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2019 0:07:24 GMT -5
By the way who did the Padres get in all this? Just seems like an average minor league hitter and that's all. I wonder if the Reds try to trade Bauer now. I'm also predicting right now that the Braves don't do anymore than possibly one more move similar to the one they just made or even more underwhelming. Attain one more arm who can help. Can't blame AA for not wanting to give up the farm just yet. They got Taylor Trammell, ranked 30 in MLB’s too-100. If we’re making predictions. I predict the Braves trade for Wheeler and another reliever/closer.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 31, 2019 0:09:49 GMT -5
By the way who did the Padres get in all this? Just seems like an average minor league hitter and that's all. I wonder if the Reds try to trade Bauer now. I'm also predicting right now that the Braves don't do anymore than possibly one more move similar to the one they just made or even more underwhelming. Attain one more arm who can help. Can't blame AA for not wanting to give up the farm just yet. They got Taylor Trammell, ranked 30 in MLB’s too-100. If we’re making predictions. I predict the Braves trade for Wheeler and another reliever/closer. Folty has been pitching well lately. Maybe lessening the need for Wheeler right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 1:47:59 GMT -5
Allard does not have the hard stuff for today's game and did not look good in ST - he fell behind the other prospects in the system
Maybe he does become a control location pitcher, but showed little of it with the big club
Never heard of Chris Martin, but he is a guy who can throw strikes, was going well this yr and should help for right now
Previously, Martin's numbers are not impressive, but Alex needs to do something, at least he should throw strikes
I am okay with Alex taking the chance that Folty and Gausman can help hold the rotation, Gausman did have a good game his first game back
Minter and Soboka, they were counting on them and they have not gotten it done
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 31, 2019 2:45:16 GMT -5
Allard does not have the hard stuff for today's game and did not look good in ST - he fell behind the other prospects in the system Maybe he does become a control location pitcher, but showed little of it with the big club All of that is very true, I just think the Braves sold low on him. Granted, they're in 1st place and there's only one trade deadline, so they had to act now if they wanted to make something happen. And, I wouldn't be surprised if Allard never even made it to the Majors for any long period of time. I just believe that when it comes to prospects, you're dealing with potential; that's where the value comes from. Anyways, it's a crap shoot, and like I said before, this could wind up being a situation where Martin provides more value in 3 months than Allard will for the Rangers for his entire career, but value is value and if the Braves are gonna trade value, I hope it's at worst equal.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 31, 2019 5:47:47 GMT -5
I’d like to think we might sign Martin if he pitches well for us, we’re going to be in serious need of bullpen help next year and it has to come from somewhere. We don’t want to burn more prospects for it so we’re going to have to spend some money. Signing Martin would take the sting out of giving up on Allard.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 31, 2019 6:43:50 GMT -5
It’s, just, to me, this was one of those “win now” moves. It just wouldn’t surprise me a couple of years from now if Allard has more value than he currently possesses. . You just totally made my exact point. They hadn't really just given up on him and valued him as no better than Martin. They are making some effort to win now, so they were willing to overpay a bit to do that. No doubt at all they will wish on a pure value to value level that they could have kept Allard... so they haven't really lost all faith in him. This is what happens in a win now move... you give up something long term for a short term victory.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 31, 2019 11:17:11 GMT -5
If we make a couple of moves today and need to clear roster space do we send Riley down where he can get everyday AB
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