It is an overpay, and they know it.... but no one is going to give us anything for some AA scrub.
Of course they were not as high on him as others, but again they can afford an overpay when dealing from a position where they have a lot of organizational depth.
AA scrub? He’s a 21-year old in AAA. I’m saying, normally that means something, the kid still has room to grow and get better, but the Braves clearly didn’t see that happening.
Don’t get me wrong, the kid did have little value at the moment and the Braves were trading from a position of strength. It’s, just, to me, this was one of those “win now” moves. It just wouldn’t surprise me a couple of years from now if Allard has more value than he currently possesses.
Not really trashing the deal, just think the Braves gave up on the kid a bit early.
On further thought, I wonder what his value would be if the Braves had kept him in AA, where his stats would have more than likely been better. We’ll never know, of course, but I suspect he’d have more value than he does now.
Allard does not have the hard stuff for today's game and did not look good in ST - he fell behind the other prospects in the system
Maybe he does become a control location pitcher, but showed little of it with the big club
All of that is very true, I just think the Braves sold low on him. Granted, they're in 1st place and there's only one trade deadline, so they had to act now if they wanted to make something happen. And, I wouldn't be surprised if Allard never even made it to the Majors for any long period of time. I just believe that when it comes to prospects, you're dealing with potential; that's where the value comes from. Anyways, it's a crap shoot, and like I said before, this could wind up being a situation where Martin provides more value in 3 months than Allard will for the Rangers for his entire career, but value is value and if the Braves are gonna trade value, I hope it's at worst equal.
Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 31, 2019 5:47:47 GMT -5
I’d like to think we might sign Martin if he pitches well for us, we’re going to be in serious need of bullpen help next year and it has to come from somewhere. We don’t want to burn more prospects for it so we’re going to have to spend some money. Signing Martin would take the sting out of giving up on Allard.
It’s, just, to me, this was one of those “win now” moves. It just wouldn’t surprise me a couple of years from now if Allard has more value than he currently possesses. .
You just totally made my exact point. They hadn't really just given up on him and valued him as no better than Martin. They are making some effort to win now, so they were willing to overpay a bit to do that. No doubt at all they will wish on a pure value to value level that they could have kept Allard... so they haven't really lost all faith in him.
This is what happens in a win now move... you give up something long term for a short term victory.