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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Mar 20, 2019 10:33:12 GMT -5
I know it's not a popular thought with a lot of folk who hate Dansby, but maybe the FO just really believes he has all the tools to be a very successful long term starter.
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Post by akod on Mar 20, 2019 10:35:29 GMT -5
Sucks the lineup will be set in stone and no adjustments made for struggling players...
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Post by Drkirby on Mar 20, 2019 11:06:51 GMT -5
I know it's not a popular thought with a lot of folk who hate Dansby, but maybe the FO just really believes he has all the tools to be a very successful long term starter. It’s not popular because evidence suggest the complete opposite.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Mar 20, 2019 11:20:10 GMT -5
Sure, but..
That doesn't change the fact that the front office may still believe in him and think the "evidence" came under extenuating circumstances.
All I am saying is the probable reasoning behind the front office having faith in him.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 20, 2019 11:33:50 GMT -5
I would like to make sure I’m not categorized as a Dansby hater. I do hate when I don’t feel like my team is playing the best overall player at a position, and I’m going to speak up. It doesn’t mean I hate the player. I said last year that I thought at one point Dansby’s head was so screwed up that it would be better for his development to only start 3-4 days per week. They take goalies out of hockey games when they’re getting bombed to protect their psyche, and that would have helped Dansby last year for the same reason. The organization does believe in him and they believe that starting him every day is the answer. I just disagree, I don’t hate anybody. Except jah.
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Post by jryanw on Mar 20, 2019 11:50:09 GMT -5
Sucks the lineup will be set in stone and no adjustments made for struggling players... Your point is understood. The problem is we are setting this lineup up for failure to cater to Donaldson. I loved the signing when it happened but if he wields this much power already it could be bad.
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Post by jryanw on Mar 20, 2019 11:51:45 GMT -5
I would like to edit my lineup. Acuna Albies Freeman Donaldson Camargo(replacing Markakis in RF) Swanson Inciarte McFlowers
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Post by jryanw on Mar 20, 2019 11:57:53 GMT -5
The lineup should be Acuna Albies Freeman Donaldson Markakis(I can't believe he's our best 5 hole hitter, gross) Swanson Ender McFlowers Putting Donaldson in the 2 hole just because he asked for it is daf. Ozzie was worse than Dansby offensively the second half last year, until he shows that wasn’t the real him I can’t justify him in the top five of our lineup. And we can’t hit Dansby 6th until he shows us something better, and neither he or Ozzie have done that yet this spring. I actually like what I've seen from Ozzie this offseason(working on opposite field hitting) and this spring(only 5 Ks in 44 at bats and 0 hrs). That tells me he's really working on his plate discipline and not just swinging for the fences like he did in the 2nd half last year. Swanson in the 6th spot has been fixed by my new Markakis free lineup.
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Post by keystone61 on Mar 20, 2019 12:08:06 GMT -5
The lineup should be Acuna Albies Freeman Donaldson Markakis(I can't believe he's our best 5 hole hitter, gross) Swanson Ender McFlowers Putting Donaldson in the 2 hole just because he asked for it is daf. Well, when you insist on batting your #4 hitter second, and your leadoff hitter first, that sort of forces Neck into that #5 spot. I think it's also pretty damn brilliant having Acuna's speed behind Donaldson and Fred, don't you?? Seems to me that batting Neck behind a leadoff Acuna makes some sense, too. He doesn't strike out.........but he does hit into double plays. A lot hinges on how Oz does. He's potentially the ideal leadoff or #2 guy, but he has to show he has the on-base skills to make that happen.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 20, 2019 12:13:53 GMT -5
Ozzie was worse than Dansby offensively the second half last year, until he shows that wasn’t the real him I can’t justify him in the top five of our lineup. And we can’t hit Dansby 6th until he shows us something better, and neither he or Ozzie have done that yet this spring. I actually like what I've seen from Ozzie this offseason(working on opposite field hitting) and this spring(only 5 Ks in 44 at bats and 0 hrs). That tells me he's really working on his plate discipline and not just swinging for the fences like he did in the 2nd half last year. Swanson in the 6th spot has been fixed by my new Markakis free lineup. I heard that Ozzie worked really hard in the offseason, and that’s a great positive. It’s funny that as horrible as his plate discipline was last year, he still only had a 17% strikeout rate. That’s not great but it’s not terrible for a guy who swung at everything. The problem was he wasted way too many ABs swinging at terrible pitches and making weak outs where he did still put the ball in play. He also got some hard hits and HRs on bad pitches, he was quite a conundrum. But it caught up to him and hopefully he can adjust, I expect him to.
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Post by Drkirby on Mar 20, 2019 13:04:32 GMT -5
I actually like what I've seen from Ozzie this offseason(working on opposite field hitting) and this spring(only 5 Ks in 44 at bats and 0 hrs). That tells me he's really working on his plate discipline and not just swinging for the fences like he did in the 2nd half last year. Swanson in the 6th spot has been fixed by my new Markakis free lineup. I heard that Ozzie worked really hard in the offseason, and that’s a great positive. It’s funny that as horrible as his plate discipline was last year, he still only had a 17% strikeout rate. That’s not great but it’s not terrible for a guy who swung at everything. The problem was he wasted way too many ABs swinging at terrible pitches and making weak outs where he did still put the ball in play. He also got some hard hits and HRs on bad pitches, he was quite a conundrum. But it caught up to him and hopefully he can adjust, I expect him to. Yeah first pitch outs are the least productive AB shy of a triple/double play.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 20, 2019 13:09:28 GMT -5
I heard that Ozzie worked really hard in the offseason, and that’s a great positive. It’s funny that as horrible as his plate discipline was last year, he still only had a 17% strikeout rate. That’s not great but it’s not terrible for a guy who swung at everything. The problem was he wasted way too many ABs swinging at terrible pitches and making weak outs where he did still put the ball in play. He also got some hard hits and HRs on bad pitches, he was quite a conundrum. But it caught up to him and hopefully he can adjust, I expect him to. Yeah first pitch outs are the least productive AB shy of a triple/double play. And even more frustrating when it's a weak grounder or pop up on a pitch that's 8 inches out of the strike zone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 15:27:06 GMT -5
I know it's not a popular thought with a lot of folk who hate Dansby, but maybe the FO just really believes he has all the tools to be a very successful long term starter. I am in the minority in that I do agree I was down on him at this time last yr, but he has become a very serviceable shortstop He might not ever get great at the plate but he did show some pop (14 HR/59 RBI) and there is room to up the OPS to the mid 700;s He was what, 699 last yr. No reason why he cannot get the average 20 points higher and same for the OBP. He does the job that is servicable enough till a real stud is developed
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Mar 21, 2019 21:45:33 GMT -5
Couple of things I’m seeing around the interwebs.
Acuna has been voted as the player with the most trade value.
Also, Albies this spring has been attacking the zone similar to, and as frequent as, Freeman has done, historically.
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Post by Drkirby on Mar 22, 2019 4:51:37 GMT -5
Couple of things I’m seeing around the interwebs. Acuna has been voted as the player with the most trade value. Also, Albies this spring has been attacking the zone similar to, and as frequent as, Freeman has done, historically. Albies never seen a pitch he didn’t like
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