What would it take to get Syndergaard or degrom?

Oh, ya, deGrom would be perfect, but I’d prefer MadBum.

On a side note, I need to go back and recalculate deGrom’s surplus value. I made a mistake when I did the math in my head, giving him the value of a hitter, instead of that of a pitcher. It’s important because a pitchers value is considerably less than that of a hitter. When I have a moment I’ll sit down and do the math. Without doing the math I can say that it is possible the Braves could make a deal that wouldn’t destroy the teams future, but it’s still very unlikely that the Mets would deal in the division.

Wasn’t Aa the one who stupidly traded Syndergaard for Dickey the first time

See: the Chris Sale haul

Dude Albies I said no longer a prospect. Acuna is the best prospect in baseball and has already flashed his talent. I may have been a little low based on what buster said but you are very high(on the crack you mentioned earlier I assume lol). Based on Buster that would mean Wright, Soroka, Pache and Toussaint. I assure you no other team will offer a prospect haul batter than that.

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I never claimed that anyone would trade them. I made the point that surplus value dictates that’s what deGrom is worth. That was before I realized that I had given deGrom the value of a hitter, rather than that of a pitcher; which is important because a pitchers values is significantly less than that of a hitter. So my package isn’t realistic. So, in a round about way I agree with you, but not for the reasons you mention.

I already mentioned Wright who I really don't want to trade.  He would only be a part of the trade.  Wright, Soroka, Pache, and Toussant could very well be what it would require to trade for DeGrom and I would absolutely not make that trade.  That is precisely why I said hard pass from the beginning.  Long term the Braves are probably going to want to keep Freeman beyond 2021 and extend both Albies and Acuna.  That will be expensive.  The Braves will have to save dollars somewhere.  That's where low cost pitching comes into play.  You would be trading away that low cost pitching and a good outfield prospect. 


We've seen what Soroka is capable of already at the major league level.  Wright was a great prospect for a reason and is having a good season in the minors.  Toussant has been up and down and I haven't kept up with him as much as others.  Toussaint has been good at AA both this season and last.  He was a first round draft pick for a reason.  DeGrom is an ace.  Make no mistake about it.  As I see it though you hurt the team in the long term and possibly even before DeGrom would be gone.  Soroka is at least capable of being better than DeGrom and together both Soroka and Wright should outproduce DeGrom at the major league level in 2020 before DeGrom becomes a free agent.  That would be leaving Touki and Pache out of the equation entirely.  This deal would not be good for the Braves.

Why are we even talking about DeGrom? Folty, Newcomb, and Soroka all have ERAs under 3. I've said from the start that the Braves centered the rebuild around pitching. The starting pitching is much improved. Gohara could be a starter long term. Allard could be promoted soon. Fried has at least had some good outings in the minors. It could work out for him in the majors. Wright has been mentioned in this tread and he's an elite pitching prospect. The previously mentioned pitchers will be at the top of the rotation. We have six good pitchers or pitching prospects and others who still have potential. We can perhaps talk about filling bullpen needs every now and then. Trading for DeGrom is an absolute NO and signing Bumgarner a year from now (assuming that he's healthy and pitching well) likely won't even need to be a consideration given the pitching talent the Braves already have on hand.