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Post by Drkirby on May 11, 2018 7:27:00 GMT -5
and coincidentally... Nick is a 2.0 WAR player this year and Haywood is a .4 Can you believe some on the other board wanted to peruse Haywood in free agency?
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Post by keystone61 on May 11, 2018 9:37:39 GMT -5
and coincidentally... Nick is a 2.0 WAR player this year and Haywood is a .4 Can you believe some on the other bored wanted to peruse Haywood in free agency? Heyward has just never learned how to hit with any consistency, much less power, and at this stage of his career, significant improvement becomes more and more of a longshot. I wonder what if feels like to get a contract for $184 million to be mediocre, or even bad, at your job? He's 'Exhibit A' for all you cats that wanna throw $400 million at Bryce Harper.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 11, 2018 15:25:59 GMT -5
I am not sure that Haywood and Harper is a fair comparison.
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Post by peteorr on May 11, 2018 23:58:58 GMT -5
Markakis had another two hits today and his OPS now sits at .967. Again, you have to wonder when this stops becoming a small sample size and more of a reality.
This is a bridge we can cross when we get there. That said, if Nick keeps hitting the Braves should keep him. I have no idea what the terms of the new contract might be. I believe the Braves offered Nick the most money or maybe second most when he signed initially. If he's going to the highest bidder, that might not be the Braves. Also I'm eyeing Pollock more and more. He still plays a decent CF and currently has a .998 OPS. The Braves could then trade Inciarte as I've been likening to the idea of upgrading at CF.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 12, 2018 0:18:01 GMT -5
I’m fine with another team taking on the risk of Neck continuing his run at the trade deadline.
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Post by keystone61 on May 12, 2018 8:28:22 GMT -5
I am not sure that Haywood and Harper is a fair comparison. I'm not comparing them, just sayin' that a huge long-term contract is a very, very risky proposition.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 12, 2018 12:10:28 GMT -5
I am not sure that Haywood and Harper is a fair comparison. I'm not comparing them, just sayin' that a huge long-term contract is a very, very risky proposition. I don't think a single one of these big long term deals has ended up being a good idea yet, not even in the first half of the deal.
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Post by akod on May 12, 2018 16:51:57 GMT -5
Markakis, Colon, RA Dickey, and Jamie Garcia= Harper payroll cost
I’d much rather have quality players. Harper’s down years will still be productive, barring injury. We are also at a point in regards to contracts that opt outs are a must. So we could realistically pay him his value for his prime and let him walk after a 5 year opt out.
Harper also brings marketing unlike any other free agent since ARod. Non baseball fans know who the guy is, he can immediately go up on any billboard and be the face of Atlanta. Sports radio around the country will be talking Braves. Business people visiting Atlanta will have must see entertainment. Families will be coming in town just for the Braves much like in the 90s. Those people will walk away with one hell of an experience at the new stadium and battery vs the days we played in the hood.
AA knows just how much a move like this could change his legacy. He will at least take a look into it.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 12, 2018 16:59:21 GMT -5
Markakis, Colon, RA Dickey, and Jamie Garcia= Harper payroll cost. [ They added up to $300-400M? Greinke is the only player who has opted out of one of these big long term deals. IMO you better count on having to pay him his entire contract.
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Post by akod on May 12, 2018 17:42:33 GMT -5
Just go through every years payroll. You can find 40 mil + in useless contracts because we had the need to fill multiple holes with lesser players.
A 26 year old prodigy is hitting the market and we don’t have payroll tied up. Combine that with having high potential kids filling every other position and we have a very rare opportunity to go for it. Sure we need pitching but it’s not like we have a bazillion prospects to help in that regard.
I’ll take a 40 mil failure from Harper over a Kemp, Uggla etc... combined with other wastes of roster spots and payroll.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 12, 2018 20:05:07 GMT -5
Just go through every years payroll. You can find 40 mil + in useless contracts because we had the need to fill multiple holes with lesser players. A 26 year old prodigy is hitting the market and we don’t have payroll tied up. Combine that with having high potential kids filling every other position and we have a very rare opportunity to go for it. Sure we need pitching but it’s not like we have a bazillion prospects to help in that regard. I’ll take a 40 mil failure from Harper over a Kemp, Uggla etc... combined with other wastes of roster spots and payroll. We don't know what our needs are going to be 5-6 years from now. If we were talking a 4-5 year deal at $40M I could see that. Not for 10 years though. You're setting yourself up there for something that could make the Kemp or Uggla or BJ Upton deals really minor in comparison.
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Post by keystone61 on May 19, 2018 12:19:25 GMT -5
May 19th :
.343 7 HR 30 RBI .944 OPS
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