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Post by keystone61 on Sept 5, 2024 13:29:26 GMT -5
It's pretty rare for guys to struggle until they're 25 and then suddenly figure things out. Kelenic has basically had one hot steak in his career, and it was at the beginning of last year, not the end. I've never understood the logic of it. Kelenic is 25 years old now, he’s had 1400 big league plate appearances, a .663 career OPS, an 86 wRC+, and a strikeout rate of 31%. I’d like to know in what bizarro world any of that is acceptable production. And then Snitker sits right there and tells us just how stupid he thinks we all are with his nonsense about Kelenic having a solid season. He can blow that out his ass. I get trying to keep a guy’s confidence level up, but there’s ways to do that without blowing smoke in our rear ends. Snitker pays zero attention to stats so he has no clue just how bad Kelenic has been, and he’s trying to hoodwink fans who do keep up with stats. And I would dare anyone to deny that the eye test is even more telling on Kelenic. He has about six different ways he can be pitched and turned into a very easy out. And on top of all that, he doesn't do anything else particularly well. If he were a great defender, base stealer, or was a good utility guy, it would be different. He'll probably be out of baseball before he's 30. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 5, 2024 14:40:14 GMT -5
Kelenic is 25 years old now, he’s had 1400 big league plate appearances, a .663 career OPS, an 86 wRC+, and a strikeout rate of 31%. I’d like to know in what bizarro world any of that is acceptable production. And then Snitker sits right there and tells us just how stupid he thinks we all are with his nonsense about Kelenic having a solid season. He can blow that out his ass. I get trying to keep a guy’s confidence level up, but there’s ways to do that without blowing smoke in our rear ends. Snitker pays zero attention to stats so he has no clue just how bad Kelenic has been, and he’s trying to hoodwink fans who do keep up with stats. And I would dare anyone to deny that the eye test is even more telling on Kelenic. He has about six different ways he can be pitched and turned into a very easy out. And on top of all that, he doesn't do anything else particularly well. If he were a great defender, base stealer, or was a good utility guy, it would be different. He'll probably be out of baseball before he's 30. He showed some flashy defense early this year but has been pretty shabby the last few months. He's not a MLB caliber hitter and never will be. But Snitker thinks he looks like one of them baseball player guys, so we'll sign him for four or five years, really cheap, probably assuming worst case scenario he'll end up playing out his professional baseball career in the minor leagues. But please don't sit there telling us he's doing really well, like the fans don't know better. |
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Post by joeyg39 on Sept 5, 2024 21:43:19 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 6, 2024 10:53:03 GMT -5
Without looking it up, who knows who these career post season numbers belong to?
Appeared in 10 games
Pitched 34.0 innings
Gave up 36 hits
Gave up 13 walks
Gave up 24 earned runs
Gave up 7 HRs
Has a 1.441 WHIP
Has a 6.35 ERA
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Post by PABraveFan on Sept 6, 2024 12:33:14 GMT -5
Without looking it up, who knows who these career post season numbers belong to? Appeared in 10 games Pitched 34.0 innings Gave up 36 hits Gave up 13 walks Gave up 24 earned runs Gave up 7 HRs Has a 1.441 WHIP Has a 6.35 ERA I heard this stat somewhere before. I'm guessing Sale. |
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Post by joeyg39 on Sept 6, 2024 14:14:16 GMT -5
Without looking it up, who knows who these career post season numbers belong to? Appeared in 10 games Pitched 34.0 innings Gave up 36 hits Gave up 13 walks Gave up 24 earned runs Gave up 7 HRs Has a 1.441 WHIP Has a 6.35 ERA Greg Maddux maybe? He wasn't exactly lights out in the post season. Yea... I'm going Maddux... |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 6, 2024 15:07:17 GMT -5
Sale
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Post by joeyg39 on Sept 6, 2024 16:01:16 GMT -5
I knew it was Sale. I was being facetious/sarcastic in my attempt to deflect the perceived underhanded antagonism thrown at Sale, by saying that Maddux, as great as he was, had a sub .500 (11-14) pitching record and was not lights out himself. Ergo... does that make Cy Young any better by throwing shade at Sale... in a feeble attempt to undermine my affinity for him... |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 6, 2024 22:50:30 GMT -5
Without looking it up, who knows who these career post season numbers belong to? Appeared in 10 games Pitched 34.0 innings Gave up 36 hits Gave up 13 walks Gave up 24 earned runs Gave up 7 HRs Has a 1.441 WHIP Has a 6.35 ERA I heard this stat somewhere before. I'm guessing Sale. Yes, it's Sale.
I threw it out there simply because of criticism of Fried not having a good post season record. Despite the fact he came up huge in the biggest win we've had in 29 years.
But what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander, I'm sure.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 7, 2024 6:21:03 GMT -5
Most of us don't look at our players and disparage them because they are not someone else. That's joey's domain, bless his heart.
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Post by joeyg39 on Sept 7, 2024 9:55:37 GMT -5
Most of us don't look at our players and disparage them because they are not someone else. That's joey's domain, bless his heart. I get it... You and Dumbleuckery love you some Cy Fried. I don't. I just don't think if I had to win a game that my team absolutely needed, that he would be my choice. He just hasn't demonstrated that in the past several playoff years... save game 6 against Houston. He has come up on the short side more often than not. Not saying that Sale has been totally great in post season as well. But I would put a months pay on him to win me a monumental game than Fried. And please, let's not be disingenuous in throwing shade on Sale in your frail attempt to elevate Fried. We all know that you and friends absolutely mauled AA in making that Sale trade. How's that trade look now? Cy Young prospective winner vs borderline AAA player? |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 7, 2024 11:44:54 GMT -5
If that's what you got out of what was said, it just points to your lack of comprehension. This has nothing to do with anything outside
of your desire to claim Fried always comes up small in comparison to the Sales and Wheelers of the world.
Plus you are just making crap up. The only mauling that was done about Sale was concern about his ability to stay healthy., but you carry
on doing you there bud.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 7, 2024 11:52:32 GMT -5
If that's what you got out of what was said, it just points to your lack of comprehension. This has nothing to do with anything outside of your desire to claim Fried always comes up small in comparison to the Sales and Wheelers of the world. Plus you are just making crap up. The only mauling that was done about Sale was concern about his ability to stay healthy., but you carry on doing you there bud. Let me guess—he’s being incredibly obtuse and continuing his practice of being a chronic liar. No matter how many times he gets slapped in the face with his ignorance, which is every time anyone addresses any of his nonsense postings, it has no effect on him whatsoever. Obvious troll is obvious, because no one could possibly be as stupid as he comes off. |
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Post by joeyg39 on Sept 8, 2024 11:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by wncbravesfan on Sept 9, 2024 8:50:05 GMT -5
I don't think the Braves will re-sign Max. |
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