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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 11:21:04 GMT -5
Nah, we won't get it right. We'll screw it up somehow. The Curse of Jim Leyritz definitely has considerable merit, no?
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Post by littlebeast1 on Oct 8, 2019 11:34:34 GMT -5
Nah, we won't get it right. We'll screw it up somehow. The Curse of Jim Leyritz definitely has considerable merit, no? 23 years and counting
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Post by littlebeast1 on Oct 8, 2019 12:52:01 GMT -5
So, how would you guys line up the Braves for this crucial do-or-die game?
I think I would be tempted to go with:
CF Acuna 2B Albies 1B Freeman 3B Donaldson LF Duvall RF Markakis SS Swanson C McCann P Folty
And yes, I know that we will trot the regular lineup out there, but I thought it would be fun to speculate anyway ...
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 13:05:38 GMT -5
Joyce was much better than Nick this year, but I just went and looked at his post season career. He has a .430 OPS, he’s 6 for 43. He’s one for his last 17 and 4 for his last 32.
My instinct was to say he should play and Markakis sit if Duvall starts, now I’m not so sure.
I’m on the fence whether Duvall should start it’s a total guess, I can’t criticize Snitker either way he decides. But Duvall can’t hit 5th, he can’t recognize sliders and Flaherty has a great one. At this point I’d bat Dansby 5th even though he often still struggles with the sliders too.
Snitker is going to stick Markakis 5th, I’d bat Dansby 6th, Joyce 7th, McCant 8th and save Duvall for a chance to hit later and pray for luck. One thing is that Duvall has hit the Cardinals great during his career, so if he starts I can live with that. He has a .296 average and .866 OPS against them.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 13:36:51 GMT -5
Joyce was much better than Nick this year, but I just went and looked at his post season career. He has a .430 OPS, he’s 6 for 43. He’s one for his last 17 and 4 for his last 32. My instinct was to say he should play and Markakis sit if Duvall starts, now I’m not so sure. I’m on the fence whether Duvall should start it’s a total guess, I can’t criticize Snitker either way he decides. But Duvall can’t hit 5th, he can’t recognize sliders and Flaherty has a great one. At this point I’d bat Dansby 5th even though he often still struggles with the sliders too. Snitker is going to stick Markakis 5th, I’d bat Dansby 6th, Joyce 7th, McCant 8th and save Duvall for a chance to hit later and pray for luck. One thing is that Duvall has hit the Cardinals great during his career, so if he starts I can live with that. He has a .296 average and .866 OPS against them. So Nick Markakis outside of like 3 games as hell came back (since 9/15) is hitting .205 with a 43 WRC+.... he’s also been an huge liability in the OF this year with -4 DRS. He is not a good baseball player anymore at all, and he has absolutely no business being in the starting lineup tomorrow. Here’s hoping they move Dansby up and Duvall starts in LF.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Oct 8, 2019 13:45:29 GMT -5
And I’m still pissed off that Keuchel started two games in this series and Soroka only one. That was never a good idea, despite the road/home splits. I don’t think Keuchel was terrible, he was just average and that’s not good enough for the guy you chose as your #1 for the series. For the most part he kept the ball down but he couldn’t throw strikes or get the hitters to chase. Personally I can’t stand watching soft tossing lefties so I’m a little biased. But I’m always going to say the decision to make him #1 started this series on the wrong foot from the get go. Then the middle of our order flopped and did us in. I haven’t given up, I just know what to expect. I’ve been conditioned well over the years. yes that sucks but if the braves had just got Acuna in either time we win. That is what killed us Ozzie and Freeman needed to do there job.
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Post by mauibravefan on Oct 8, 2019 13:48:23 GMT -5
So far playoffs are speaking volumes on the “value of experience and veteran presence”
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 13:49:06 GMT -5
And I’m still pissed off that Keuchel started two games in this series and Soroka only one. That was never a good idea, despite the road/home splits. I don’t think Keuchel was terrible, he was just average and that’s not good enough for the guy you chose as your #1 for the series. For the most part he kept the ball down but he couldn’t throw strikes or get the hitters to chase. Personally I can’t stand watching soft tossing lefties so I’m a little biased. But I’m always going to say the decision to make him #1 started this series on the wrong foot from the get go. Then the middle of our order flopped and did us in. I haven’t given up, I just know what to expect. I’ve been conditioned well over the years. yes that sucks but if the braves had just got Acuna in either time we win. That is what killed us Ozzie and Freeman needed to do there job. ..........and I hesitate to even throw GAPOZ in there. Hell, he's done more than the rest of the lineup combined. There's no excuse for Freddie not getting him in at least once, other than he can't hit a bull in the ass.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 13:53:36 GMT -5
Joyce was much better than Nick this year, but I just went and looked at his post season career. He has a .430 OPS, he’s 6 for 43. He’s one for his last 17 and 4 for his last 32. My instinct was to say he should play and Markakis sit if Duvall starts, now I’m not so sure. I’m on the fence whether Duvall should start it’s a total guess, I can’t criticize Snitker either way he decides. But Duvall can’t hit 5th, he can’t recognize sliders and Flaherty has a great one. At this point I’d bat Dansby 5th even though he often still struggles with the sliders too. Snitker is going to stick Markakis 5th, I’d bat Dansby 6th, Joyce 7th, McCant 8th and save Duvall for a chance to hit later and pray for luck. One thing is that Duvall has hit the Cardinals great during his career, so if he starts I can live with that. He has a .296 average and .866 OPS against them. So Nick Markakis outside of like 3 games as hell came back (since 9/15) is hitting .205 with a 43 WRC+.... he’s also been an huge liability in the OF this year with -4 DRS. He is not a good baseball player anymore at all, and he has absolutely no business being in the starting lineup tomorrow. Here’s hoping they move Dansby up and Duvall starts in LF. I know, I agree, Nick hasn't been much of a player for 6-7 years now, but our manager and announcers just revere him. It's great that he's a great guy and all, I don't doubt that at all and I respect that, but until the league awards us wins for that I'm not going to let it be the reason he should be starting in RF for us for 6 years.
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Post by rennymadeit on Oct 8, 2019 13:54:27 GMT -5
A spark in the offense could be as simple as moving FF down in the order ....yeah, that’s admitting he is hurting ..and a bruise to his ego ..but it’s not like the Cards don’t already know it. Snit would never do it, I know.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 13:55:54 GMT -5
yes that sucks but if the braves had just got Acuna in either time we win. That is what killed us Ozzie and Freeman needed to do there job. ..........and I hesitate to even throw GAPOZ in there. Hell, he's done more than the rest of the lineup combined. There's no excuse for Freddie not getting him in at least once, other than he can't hit a bull in the ass. Ozzie is 4 for 16 in the series with the huge HR yesterday, but he did fail to move Acuna twice yesterday when we needed it. I'm not lumping him in with the group of veteran floppers we've had, but he could have been better in this series too.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 13:57:44 GMT -5
I’d have been happier with Folty Fried Soroka Maybe we'll get it right next year. Of course, we'll suffer some kind of crazy thing that will ultimately kill our postseason - a phantom umpiring call, a career .100 hitter getting a GW hit, one of our best players falling down the steps and missing the series - it's always something. I'm pretty convinced that this is just the continuation of the Curse of Jim Leyritz.By the way, thanks for bringing up the "L" name, you've brought my twitch back.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 14:19:06 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 14:36:29 GMT -5
Pretty tacky. Not surprised though.
I like this statement of his:
“I still have to go back into the zoo [free agency] but I figured if this offseason doesn’t present more offers, more swiftly, like the NBA or the NFL, then the normal fan will see exactly what’s going on,” Keuchel said. “That’s what I want people to see.”
Normal fans already see what's going on ya moron. Average to slightly better than average pitchers shouldn't get long contracts for $20M+ per year.
He's an idiot for calling it the zoo as well. If he wasn't so greedy and unrealistic about where he really ranks, he could avoid the "zoo" and just sign a reasonable contract and move on easily enough.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 14:40:30 GMT -5
..........and I hesitate to even throw GAPOZ in there. Hell, he's done more than the rest of the lineup combined. There's no excuse for Freddie not getting him in at least once, other than he can't hit a bull in the ass. Ozzie is 4 for 16 in the series with the huge HR yesterday, but he did fail to move Acuna twice yesterday when we needed it. I'm not lumping him in with the group of veteran floppers we've had, but he could have been better in this series too. No argument from me there. He should have laid it down after that leadoff triple, but that's apparently what baseball pussies do nowadays. Better to fail like a man than succeed like a pus sy.
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