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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 10:07:30 GMT -5
I won’t be mad unless they re-sign keuchel. Hopefully they don’t even call his representative, BorASS Don't see much chance of that happening. We'll have Soroka, Fried, Folty and probably Teheran for four spots. Guessing one of the kids (Anderson, Wilson, Wright) will get a long look in ST for the other spot. And the wild card is Newcomb - not sure he doesn't get another shot at the rotation. We won't re-sign Keuchel, IMO, and I also think we'll decline Teheran's option (could definitely be wrong...loyalty, you know). A change of scenery is probably best for him at this point. Maybe sign a guy like Miley or Wheeler to fill out the rotation?
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 10:14:05 GMT -5
Don't see much chance of that happening. We'll have Soroka, Fried, Folty and probably Teheran for four spots. Guessing one of the kids (Anderson, Wilson, Wright) will get a long look in ST for the other spot. And the wild card is Newcomb - not sure he doesn't get another shot at the rotation. We won't re-sign Keuchel, IMO, and I also think we'll decline Teheran's option (could definitely be wrong...loyalty, you know). A change of scenery is probably best for him at this point. Maybe sign a guy like Miley or Wheeler to fill out the rotation? And definitely pick up Neck’s option.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 10:16:41 GMT -5
Agree 100%. I've seen splits like that turn 180 degrees in a short period of time. Soroka is our best pitcher and should have gotten two starts out of 5 games...PERIOD! The really sad thing is that despite Soroka only pitching once, we were in position to win both games Keuchel started. Had Martin not gotten hurt in Game 1 and had the offense not failed late in Game 4, this series would be over. Starting Keuchel two games, while probably not the best idea, didn't ultimately cost us this series. I agree, it was a combination. But the Cardinals offense has struggled all year, and we see how Folty and Soroka handled their two big middle of the order bats. And I’ll say again I still haven’t given up. Our team has bounced back many times this year with great games after horrible losses.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 8, 2019 10:22:45 GMT -5
Freeman is lying about his elbow, I have very little doubt about that. That said, he didn't do anything last year, either.......1 big ol' RBI against the Dodgers. Maybe he's just not a postseason player. I'll say this, too. If I'm GAPOZ and I see Acuna standing at third with nobody out in that situation, I'm laying that sucker down to get him in, because he knows nobody behind him is getting it done right now. You HAVE to have that run. Yeah, I know bunting is for pussies, and yeah I know that GAPOZ hasn't bunted much, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't care less about that. In that situation, I am by god laying it down and getting Acuna across that plate come hell or high water. If it fails, it fails..............but it wouldn't have failed. Last year was another year Freddie almost never got a day off. It's funny how this year and last a few of us here talked about how these guys never getting a day off was going to kill their performance in October and both years that exact thing has happened... and no, finally giving Freddie a few days off AFTER his elbow blew up does not count. Bunting on a squeeze play is not a wussy move. Anyone would have traded an out for a run. The only wussy side of bunting is giving the other team a free out from a good hitter who is going to be followed by another actual hitter just to get a runner to third when noted runner is easily fast enough to score on any single and can probably make it to third on a groundout anyway. I would note though that trying a squeeze is something that should come from the dugout, and I doubt the thought ever entered Snit's mind.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 10:24:37 GMT -5
Seen this on fb: Ronald Acuña Jr. has bounced back in a BIG way since his teammates called him out. So...where's the rest of the team, now?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 10:24:46 GMT -5
We won't re-sign Keuchel, IMO, and I also think we'll decline Teheran's option (could definitely be wrong...loyalty, you know). A change of scenery is probably best for him at this point. Maybe sign a guy like Miley or Wheeler to fill out the rotation? And definitely pick up Neck’s option. I hope you mean pay the $2M buyout option. But i’d Just about bet my left nut he’ll be back. Snitker feels the same way about Nick as our announcers do, he’s a god. I like Nick as a person and I get the professional approach and veteran presents, but we can do so much better. Hell Matt Joyce absolutely destroyed Nick this year both with the bat and in the field. I have zero doubt Camargo would have too if he had been given the every day job in RF. As I’ve said, Nick has an average WAR of 1.3 for the last seven years, we can do a lot better. He’s not that good of an overall player. The eye test has told me that the whole time. Please, for the love if god lets move on from him.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 10:28:10 GMT -5
And definitely pick up Neck’s option. I hope you mean pay the $2M buyout option. But i’d Just about bet my left nut he’ll be back. Snitker feels the same way about Nick as our announcers do, he’s a god. I like Nick as a person and I get the professional approach and veteran presents, but we can do so much better. Hell Matt Joyce absolutely destroyed Nick this year both with the bat and in the field. I have zero doubt Camargo would have too if he had been given the every day job in RF. As I’ve said, Nick has an average WAR of 1.3 for the last seven years, we can do a lot better. He’s not that good of an overall player. The eye test has told me that the whole time. Please, for the love if god lets move on from him. I’ll see your left nut, and raise you both nuts that he’ll be the starting RF (if health) on opening day
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 10:28:29 GMT -5
Nick gets all that credit for driving in runs, but he’s hitting behind four outstanding on base guys. I could drive in 100 runs hitting in that spot.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 10:31:47 GMT -5
Seen this on fb: Ronald Acuña Jr. has bounced back in a BIG way since his teammates called him out. So...where's the rest of the team, now? Acuña is a money player. Hey, I get the hustle thing, I really do, but when he's on, he's so much better than anybody else on our team that it isn't funny. Hell, when he's not on, he still does something to help you win pretty much every day. Freddie is the same way........when he's on, he's better than anybody else, but when he isn't on, he doesn't help you at all. That's the difference between Freddie and Juña.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 10:32:11 GMT -5
I hope you mean pay the $2M buyout option. But i’d Just about bet my left nut he’ll be back. Snitker feels the same way about Nick as our announcers do, he’s a god. I like Nick as a person and I get the professional approach and veteran presents, but we can do so much better. Hell Matt Joyce absolutely destroyed Nick this year both with the bat and in the field. I have zero doubt Camargo would have too if he had been given the every day job in RF. As I’ve said, Nick has an average WAR of 1.3 for the last seven years, we can do a lot better. He’s not that good of an overall player. The eye test has told me that the whole time. Please, for the love if god lets move on from him. I’ll see your left nut, and raise you both nuts that he’ll be the starting RF (if health) on opening day Oh I know, I totally expect it. He was a freaking 0.4 WAR player this year and somehow Snitker and our broadcast team think he’s the most valuable player in baseball. Joyce was a 1.2 WAR player in half as many ABs.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 8, 2019 10:32:19 GMT -5
Nick gets all that credit for driving in runs, but he’s hitting behind four outstanding on base guys. I could drive in 100 runs hitting in that spot. ..........bet you couldn't! LMAO seriously, though, Neck is Mr April.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 10:33:35 GMT -5
Seen this on fb: Ronald Acuña Jr. has bounced back in a BIG way since his teammates called him out. So...where's the rest of the team, now? Acuña is a money player. Hey, I get the hustle thing, I really do, but when he's on, he's so much better than anybody else on our team that it isn't funny. Hell, when he's not on, he still does something to help you win pretty much every day. Freddie is the same way........when he's on, he's better than anybody else, but when he isn't on, he doesn't help you at all. That's the difference between Freddie and Juña. Well if you ever need to laugh, just remember Acuna is getting 230 less million than Bryce Harper. 😂
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 8, 2019 10:34:05 GMT -5
And I’m still pissed off that Keuchel started two games in this series and Soroka only one. That was never a good idea, despite the road/home splits. I don’t think Keuchel was terrible, he was just average and that’s not good enough for the guy you chose as your #1 for the series. For the most part he kept the ball down but he couldn’t throw strikes or get the hitters to chase. Personally I can’t stand watching soft tossing lefties so I’m a little biased. But I’m always going to say the decision to make him #1 started this series on the wrong foot from the get go. Then the middle of our order flopped and did us in. I haven’t given up, I just know what to expect. I’ve been conditioned well over the years. and you should be still pissed. We all know ultimately if the middle of our lineup hit something that this would be a moot issue, so they shoulder a ton of blame for not having already won this series. That being said... they haven't hit in 3 of the 4 games, so you have to look at what other things could the team have done to put themselves in the best position to win. One other thing was NOT relegating your UNQUESTIONABLE #1 starter who has been by FAR the most consistent starter on your team to only getting 1 start. Then in lieu of that, the guy you DO give 2 starts to is at best the #3 guy...maybe the #4. It was a bone-headed, asinine thing to do. Just effing stupid as hell. Sorry, but it was Brian Snitker trying to think and do something clever.. which he is not good at. He may not be the physical reason we have not already won the series, but it was a DUMBASS decision that most of us here called out immediately. Hopefully it becomes irrelevant after we win game 5 tomorrow, but don't deny it was grade A level stupid.
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 8, 2019 10:34:47 GMT -5
I’ll see your left nut, and raise you both nuts that he’ll be the starting RF (if health) on opening day Oh I know, I totally expect it. He was a freaking 0.4 WAR player this year and somehow Snitker and our broadcast team think he’s the most valuable player in baseball. Joyce was a 1.2 WAR player in half as many ABs. It really just gets me when the broadcast team on TBS talks about how “great” nick’s arm is.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 8, 2019 10:34:48 GMT -5
Freddie is so out of whack he’s missing 90% of the pitches he swings at, its painful to watch when you know how good he usually is.
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