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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 5, 2019 0:03:45 GMT -5
I can't think of a worse player to add to our team than adding Heyward back. No heart. I wouldn’t say no heart, just lack of skill. I’ve made it a point to stay out of the rosterbation over the holidays and I’m not in any hurry to get back into it. Because of my absence, I’ve taken an overall look of the baseball landscape and here’s the conclusion I’ve come to. There will be no big trade. There will be no big signing. Trust me when I say, this isn’t a pessimistic point of view; it’s just reality. The Braves window of contention has opened, but teams are wanting too much for their impact players, more than AA is willing to give up. Just look at the rumors. Look at what the marlins want for JTR, look at what the M’s want for Haniger, look at what the Indians want for Kluber and Bauer. It’s too much. The Braves are in a difficult position because of the sanctions, the Braves don’t have a level one payroll. They can’t afford to trade away prospects they believe will be high impact players on the MLB roster, especially multiple prospects. For these reasons, the Braves will look internally for positions that need to be filled. If one isn’t available, or ready, then they’ll bargain hunt. All the while searching for that elusive deal that will not come this off-season. Oh well. You may well be right, but there's a factor I think we need to consider--the same thing is true for teams all over MLB, basically not much is getting done anywhere. So it's going to bring the prices down, whether it be money or trade pieces. I don't think we'll add any top notch players, but I still think there's a chance that one way or the other we'll add one or two good players or pitchers. And like I've said all along, the addition of Donaldson was going to limit what we would do this offseason as well. I'm totally fine going into the season with exactly what we already have, if we are counting or Camargo or Riley to play the OF. Although I wouldn't be happy with the bullpen as it stands, but I assume some of our youth would be counted on out of the pen. So if we do literally nothing else I won't be having a heart attack.
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Post by papabrave on Jan 5, 2019 7:11:52 GMT -5
i would gladly give up a couple solid pitching prospects for Mazara! This kid can hit ! hes solid defensively. what a solid 4 we would have in Acuna,Freeman, Donaldson then Mazara at 2 3 4 and 5 spots in the order. Lets not forget how young mazara is and hes simply been consistent. No severe slumps and no breakout . Batting order of Inciarte Acuna Freeman Donaldson Mazara Albies Flowers/mcCann Swanson/Camargo Pitcher That right there doesnt strike out a lot. I really dont see many GIDP there either. I would gladly give up 1 of Gohara ,Soroka,Touki , Wright and 1 lesser arm Wilson, Muller,Fried,Wentz .... If i had to give a bat back, i might give up Jenista maybe. I just really think Mazara hasnt played on a contender yet, hes young, he hits to all fields,runs fine,good contact. there could be something huge in that player. But thats just me , im ok with overpaying for a controllable bat that does more then hit hRs every 4th day.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 5, 2019 8:32:04 GMT -5
I can't think of a worse player to add to our team than adding Heyward back. No heart. No heart? Without his speech the Cub's dont win the World Series. Bruhhh? In all seriousness I think he just has too many holes in his swing to ever make an impact in playoffs where it matters the most. www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=6640173
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Post by jryanw on Jan 5, 2019 8:33:46 GMT -5
i would gladly give up a couple solid pitching prospects for Mazara! This kid can hit ! hes solid defensively. what a solid 4 we would have in Acuna,Freeman, Donaldson then Mazara at 2 3 4 and 5 spots in the order. Lets not forget how young mazara is and hes simply been consistent. No severe slumps and no breakout . Batting order of Inciarte Acuna Freeman Donaldson Mazara Albies Flowers/mcCann Swanson/Camargo Pitcher That right there doesnt strike out a lot. I really dont see many GIDP there either. I would gladly give up 1 of Gohara ,Soroka,Touki , Wright and 1 lesser arm Wilson, Muller,Fried,Wentz .... If i had to give a bat back, i might give up Jenista maybe. I just really think Mazara hasnt played on a contender yet, hes young, he hits to all fields,runs fine,good contact. there could be something huge in that player. But thats just me , im ok with overpaying for a controllable bat that does more then hit hRs every 4th day. I would love mazara. I think he and Gallo are both going to breakout soon.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 5, 2019 8:46:29 GMT -5
i would gladly give up a couple solid pitching prospects for Mazara! This kid can hit ! hes solid defensively. what a solid 4 we would have in Acuna,Freeman, Donaldson then Mazara at 2 3 4 and 5 spots in the order. Lets not forget how young mazara is and hes simply been consistent. No severe slumps and no breakout . Batting order of Inciarte Acuna Freeman Donaldson Mazara Albies Flowers/mcCann Swanson/Camargo Pitcher That right there doesnt strike out a lot. I really dont see many GIDP there either. I would gladly give up 1 of Gohara ,Soroka,Touki , Wright and 1 lesser arm Wilson, Muller,Fried,Wentz .... If i had to give a bat back, i might give up Jenista maybe. I just really think Mazara hasnt played on a contender yet, hes young, he hits to all fields,runs fine,good contact. there could be something huge in that player. But thats just me , im ok with overpaying for a controllable bat that does more then hit hRs every 4th day. I would love mazara. I think he and Gallo are both going to breakout soon. I agree, and on that note, let's not forget that Johan Camargo carries a career OPS almost 50 points higher than Mazara's. Point being, Camargo is a pretty highly valued cat across baseball, and if we don't make a trade, I think he becomes an everyday outfielder who slides to other positions as needed. He certainly has the arm for it, and I suspect he would do just fine in the outfield. I'm skittish of trading away prospects anyway. What if you trade Riley, Soroka, or whomever, and they become All-Star caliber players? I realize that there is always gonna be risk involved, but that thought makes me sick, especially when you consider the salary side of it. For these reasons, if AA wants to hang on until Spring Training or after, I'm good with that. I'd rather gamble and lose on a prospect that doesn't make it, than I would on a big $$$ contract that doesn't make it. I think it's the lesser of 2 evils, because at least if a prospect bombs, you still have the salary space to go get a player.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2019 14:32:47 GMT -5
Mazara can hit? That’s news to me. Each of the last 3 years he’s had a sub-100 wRC+. Ender Inciarte has shown to be a better hitter than Mazara, and we’re not going around talking about how good a hitter Inciarte is.
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Post by papabrave on Jan 5, 2019 16:21:42 GMT -5
Mazara can hit? That’s news to me. Each of the last 3 years he’s had a sub-100 wRC+. Ender Inciarte has shown to be a better hitter than Mazara, and we’re not going around talking about how good a hitter Inciarte is. thats just my opinion pf him. you have yours , i have mine. eac h of the past 2 years had a great 1st half followed by a subpar 2nd half . ive seen mazara with nagging injuries a lot the past 2 years. with him being 5 years younger , id be willing to take a chance on him reaching his potential. as i said earlier, he hasnt regressed nor has he hit the potential scouts think he has. While ender has exceeded what scouts thought of him. The nagging injuries were nothing too serious and playing on a contender could be what he needs to stay on the field. as i said ... my opinion
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 5, 2019 16:47:28 GMT -5
I would love mazara. I think he and Gallo are both going to breakout soon. I agree, and on that note, let's not forget that Johan Camargo carries a career OPS almost 50 points higher than Mazara's. Point being, Camargo is a pretty highly valued cat across baseball, and if we don't make a trade, I think he becomes an everyday outfielder who slides to other positions as needed. He certainly has the arm for it, and I suspect he would do just fine in the outfield. I'm skittish of trading away prospects anyway. What if you trade Riley, Soroka, or whomever, and they become All-Star caliber players? I realize that there is always gonna be risk involved, but that thought makes me sick, especially when you consider the salary side of it. For these reasons, if AA wants to hang on until Spring Training or after, I'm good with that. I'd rather gamble and lose on a prospect that doesn't make it, than I would on a big $$$ contract that doesn't make it. I think it's the lesser of 2 evils, because at least if a prospect bombs, you still have the salary space to go get a player. Imo Camargo has absolutely earned a spot whether it be infield or outfield.Failing to reward his fine offense and defense would be senseless. How he could trip over a chalk line is still unclear though.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 5, 2019 17:02:47 GMT -5
Mazara can hit? That’s news to me. Each of the last 3 years he’s had a sub-100 wRC+. Ender Inciarte has shown to be a better hitter than Mazara, and we’re not going around talking about how good a hitter Inciarte is. thats just my opinion pf him. you have yours , i have mine. eac h of the past 2 years had a great 1st half followed by a subpar 2nd half .ive seen mazara with nagging injuries a lot the past 2 years. with him being 5 years younger , id be willing to take a chance on him reaching his potential. as i said earlier, he hasnt regressed nor has he hit the potential scouts think he has. While ender has exceeded what scouts thought of him. The nagging injuries were nothing too serious and playing on a contender could be what he needs to stay on the field. as i said ... my opinion That just isn't true. March, April, May, June, out of those 8 months worth of first halves, he's had 2 months of +100 wRC+ and 6 months of -100 wRC+, but believe what you want.
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Post by papabrave on Jan 5, 2019 22:52:32 GMT -5
I absolutely will .
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2019 20:22:13 GMT -5
BOOM! AA just traded his Caesar Salad for a Chef's Salad at Outback. OK. I'm bored.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2019 21:29:16 GMT -5
FlowCann is gonna have a great season?.270/25/80/.800?
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2019 21:30:56 GMT -5
How about Acuna wins MVP and Folty wins the Cy Young?
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 6, 2019 21:32:03 GMT -5
.......Soroka wins Rookie of the Year? No? Nada?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 6, 2019 23:04:52 GMT -5
FlowCann is gonna have a great season?.270/25/80/.800? .240/12/53/.680
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