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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 3, 2019 20:59:35 GMT -5
Nick shouldn’t play anymore games in a Braves uniform. If he does I’ll be very ill.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 3, 2019 21:16:30 GMT -5
Nick shouldn’t play anymore games in a Braves uniform. If he does I’ll be very ill. Agreed. We cannot confuse the last years markakis with the real markakis. Before last year he was a bust for us.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 3, 2019 21:21:13 GMT -5
I'd offer him a Donaldson deal. That's about it. If he has a monster year and you lose him, so be it. He's gonna have to establish that he can play a full season, IMO. I'd be much more inclined to do that than to offer 4 or 5 years. I wouldn't be against platooning Nick and DuvalLOL. That could work. Nick shouldn't play 162 games. I'm down with Donaldson deal for AJP if he'll take it. Nick and Duvall in a platoon would be a very dissatisfying result of an offseason with high expectations.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 3, 2019 21:53:10 GMT -5
I'd offer him a Donaldson deal. That's about it. If he has a monster year and you lose him, so be it. He's gonna have to establish that he can play a full season, IMO. I'd be much more inclined to do that than to offer 4 or 5 years. I wouldn't be against platooning Nick and DuvalLOL. That could work. Nick shouldn't play 162 games. I'm down with Donaldson deal for AJP if he'll take it. Nick and Duvall in a platoon would be a very dissatisfying result of an offseason with high expectations. Possibly correct about the platoon. I do think that if Nick only played 120 games or so that he could be more effective, though. I'd prefer something better, obviously, but a stupid contract is not better.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 3, 2019 21:54:57 GMT -5
Nick shouldn’t play anymore games in a Braves uniform. If he does I’ll be very ill. Agreed. We cannot confuse the last years markakis with the real markakis. Before last year he was a bust for us. Even his last two years with the Orioles were nothing to write home about. Over the last 6 years he's been pretty mediocre. He had a great 4 month run last year but I think it would be unrealistic to expect that again. His norm hasn't been anywhere near that level.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 4, 2019 9:09:25 GMT -5
Agreed. We cannot confuse the last years markakis with the real markakis. Before last year he was a bust for us. Even his last two years with the Orioles were nothing to write home about. Over the last 6 years he's been pretty mediocre. He had a great 4 month run last year but I think it would be unrealistic to expect that again. His norm hasn't been anywhere near that level. I agree, but he is an awfully solid guy to have on your team. The Braves do need someone who is more of a threat offensively, though.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 4, 2019 9:48:22 GMT -5
Even his last two years with the Orioles were nothing to write home about. Over the last 6 years he's been pretty mediocre. He had a great 4 month run last year but I think it would be unrealistic to expect that again. His norm hasn't been anywhere near that level. I agree, but he is an awfully solid guy to have on your team. The Braves do need someone who is more of a threat offensively, though. Yeah, we need an impact guy, not a retread. No Markakis. No Cargo. No Adam Jones.
IMO, the only outfielders we need to be looking into are:
SD: Reyes or Renfroe CIN: Winker or Schebler LAD: Pederson AZ: Peralta PIT: Dickerson MIN: Rosario DET: Castellanos (although his lack of D is an issue) TEX: Gallo or Mazara OAK: Stephen Piscotty
Any of these guys would be an upgrade over Nick and that's what we want - improvement. We have the minor league currency to get a deal done. Get it done, AA.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 4, 2019 10:38:52 GMT -5
What would make you think Rosario would be available? Did I miss something? He's a very valuable asset for the Twins, who seem to be trying to take a step forward. Winker might not be a bad guy to target. He's a pretty good hitter, although his defense is lacking.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 4, 2019 11:29:31 GMT -5
What would make you think Rosario would be available? Did I miss something? He's a very valuable asset for the Twins, who seem to be trying to take a step forward. Winker might not be a bad guy to target. He's a pretty good hitter, although his defense is lacking. No one is untouchable if the price is right
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Post by jryanw on Jan 4, 2019 11:47:28 GMT -5
I agree, but he is an awfully solid guy to have on your team. The Braves do need someone who is more of a threat offensively, though. Yeah, we need an impact guy, not a retread. No Markakis. No Cargo. No Adam Jones.
IMO, the only outfielders we need to be looking into are:
SD: Reyes or Renfroe CIN: Winker or Schebler LAD: Pederson AZ: Peralta PIT: Dickerson MIN: Rosario DET: Castellanos (although his lack of D is an issue) TEX: Gallo or Mazara OAK: Stephen Piscotty
Any of these guys would be an upgrade over Nick and that's what we want - improvement. We have the minor league currency to get a deal done. Get it done, AA.
Gallo and mazara are both young breakouts waiting to happen. I bet they wouldn't cost a terrible price either. Maybe Duvall and Wentz for one of the two. I prefer Gallo but I'd take either.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jan 4, 2019 11:52:59 GMT -5
Yeah, we need an impact guy, not a retread. No Markakis. No Cargo. No Adam Jones.
IMO, the only outfielders we need to be looking into are:
SD: Reyes or Renfroe CIN: Winker or Schebler LAD: Pederson AZ: Peralta PIT: Dickerson MIN: Rosario DET: Castellanos (although his lack of D is an issue) TEX: Gallo or Mazara OAK: Stephen Piscotty
Any of these guys would be an upgrade over Nick and that's what we want - improvement. We have the minor league currency to get a deal done. Get it done, AA.
Gallo and mazara are both young breakouts waiting to happen. I bet they wouldn't cost a terrible price either. Maybe Duvall and Wentz for one of the two. I prefer Gallo but I'd take either. Gallo is projected to have an OPS north of .800 with 30 bombs. He would certainly work. Not sure about his defensive metrics, but his bat would be nice in the middle of our order. In fact, if we could get Ender back to form, we could have a really nice looking lineup.
CF Inciarte (L) LF Acuna (R) 1B Freeman (L) 3B Donaldson (R) RF Gallo (L) 2B Albies (S) C McCann (L) / Flowers (R) SS Swanson (R)
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 4, 2019 12:21:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Gallo with a ten foot pole. He's not a good defensive player, he has a low wRC+ for a power hitter, and he strikes out at a 38% rate for his career.
If he hits 40 HRs in a season, that means every fourth day he hits a HR and then the other three days does nothing to help you win. No thanks. We need well rounded athletes who can help you win in many different ways.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 4, 2019 12:31:35 GMT -5
What would make you think Rosario would be available? Did I miss something? He's a very valuable asset for the Twins, who seem to be trying to take a step forward. Winker might not be a bad guy to target. He's a pretty good hitter, although his defense is lacking. No one is untouchable if the price is right Well, of course, but it's not like Rosario is on the market, which means to me the price would be TOO high.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 4, 2019 14:17:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Gallo with a ten foot pole. He's not a good defensive player, he has a low wRC+ for a power hitter, and he strikes out at a 38% rate for his career.
If he hits 40 HRs in a season, that means every fourth day he hits a HR and then the other three days does nothing to help you win. No thanks. We need well rounded athletes who can help you win in many different ways.
He needs to stop striking out so much for sure but a guy that hits 40 hrs is still helping protect the hitter in front of him even when he doesn't hit a hr. No one except maybe the Top 10 aces are going to want to pitch around Donaldson to get to Gallo. His defense is not that much of a problem because of how good Acuna and Ender are at defense.
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Post by jryanw on Jan 4, 2019 14:20:10 GMT -5
The other positive of Gallo is after this season he can move to 3rd base and we can call up Pache.
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