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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 4, 2024 20:34:57 GMT -5
I believe AA thinks we are targeting being healthy.
Don't shoot the messenger!
AA kept talking about how we had the best staff in baseball.... Now it's a fairly general consensus that Morton was a #6 guy at best had Strider been there... He also noted in the post season you really only need 4 guys...
Sale
Strider
Lopez
Fried
Schwelly
Morton
So in his mind.... Fried is probably the only thing that needs to be replaced, as our organizational depth can replace Morton.
Now looking at Fried... joey will tell you he's a complete bum, so that spot can be replaced with our usual veteran presents type signing...
so.......
Sale, Strider, Lopez, Schwelly... Veteran Presents, Organizational depth...
YEAH LET'S GO!!!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 4, 2024 20:46:24 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of best ERA....
About Arcia, he said as the team was constructed he was an 8-9 hitter and no one was counting on offense
from Arcia and that his fielding is in itself almost as good as offense for the runs he saves.
So there doesn't seem to be any plans to do anything there. He also noted that with a healthy Acuña, Harris, Laureano, Kelenic,Soler, and Ozuna... they feel good where the are in the outfield and DH. So much so we may even struggle getting everyone at bats..
1st, 2nd, 3rd are locked up....
Seems to me a backup infielder and 1 veteran presents starter is all they might be looking at.
He didn't mention Smurphy... maybe they will try something there? It's too bad they can't find a way to get someone like Wild Bill Contreras.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 4, 2024 21:29:33 GMT -5
I’m really surprised they exercised Bummers option, because I thought one of their major targets was limiting or cutting back payroll. I think Minter is gone. Would he have cost THAT much more than Bummer? And Minter is a backend reliever and Bummer just isn’t.
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Post by PABraveFan on Oct 4, 2024 21:44:04 GMT -5
I believe AA thinks we are targeting being healthy. Don't shoot the messenger! AA kept talking about how we had the best staff in baseball.... Now it's a fairly general consensus that Morton was a #6 guy at best had Strider been there... He also noted in the post season you really only need 4 guys... Sale Strider Lopez Fried Schwelly Morton So in his mind.... Fried is probably the only thing that needs to be replaced, as our organizational depth can replace Morton. Now looking at Fried... joey will tell you he's a complete bum, so that spot can be replaced with our usual veteran presents type signing... so....... Sale, Strider, Lopez, Schwelly... Veteran Presents, Organizational depth... YEAH LET'S GO!!! Ask Joe Mugrove how targeting the staying healthy is working out. If you're planning on being healthy all year you're playing a fools game. We don't know how Strider will be. Sale or Lopez could go down in April. It would not surprise me at all. If they want to give guys time off all the time then why not get another pitcher. We got lucky this year after Strider went down we only had a few shorter ILs and SBach arrived. If no backup plan it could get ugly. Personally I would not have exercised Bummer's option. He was basically a back of the BP reliever all year. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 4, 2024 22:35:18 GMT -5
Would you sell high on Ozuna... move him in the off-season and head into 2025 letting Soler and Acuña split DH/RF, of course knowing Acuña
would be the field player 80% of the time?
Ozuna is the oldest of the group in the OF, and is even worse in the field than Jorge.
That's a possibility. Ozuna would garner more than Soler and we certainly don't need two DH's. Also remember how Ozuna took off as a DH when
relieved of being the everyday left fielder. Maybe Soler would step it up relieved of RF duties except the occasional start there to spell Acuña.
That, plus Fried and Morton's salary could be used to get a frontline pitcher and maybe a decent bench infielder as almost all other positions are set.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 4, 2024 22:57:10 GMT -5
I’m really surprised they exercised Bummers option, because I thought one of their major targets was limiting or cutting back payroll. I think Minter is gone. Would he have cost THAT much more than Bummer? And Minter is a backend reliever and Bummer just isn’t. Maybe they exercised Bummer's option just as an insurance policy if they can't re-sign AJ. If they can, 3 LHRP with 2 who can provide multi-inning work isn't too bad of an idea. If they can't keep AJ then at least you have 2 lefties in the fold and while only marginally, Bummer was better in the 2nd half last year. Just a thought... I'm not so sure this means AJ is gone. I've seen some things that indicate AJ really wants to stay here and coming off the injury we may can keep him around at a reasonable salary. One thing AA did say is he expects the Barves payroll to increase and we have money that could be coming off the books, so it has to be spent somewhere if payroll will be going up and Morton and Fried are off the books... money will have to be spent somewhere. If we can move Ozuna or Soler, that's even more money that would have to spent for payroll to be going up. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 4, 2024 22:58:58 GMT -5
Would you sell high on Ozuna... move him in the off-season and head into 2025 letting Soler and Acuña split DH/RF, of course knowing Acuña would be the field player 80% of the time? Ozuna is the oldest of the group in the OF, and is even worse in the field than Jorge. That's a possibility. Ozuna would garner more than Soler and we certainly don't need two DH's. Also remember how Ozuna took off as a DH when relieved of being the everyday left fielder. Maybe Soler would step it up relieved of RF duties except the occasional start there to spell Acuña. That, plus Fried and Morton's salary could be used to get a frontline pitcher and maybe a decent bench infielder as almost all other positions are set. I suggested this about a month ago----exercising Ozuna's option because he would be cheap for another team and then moving him, because we don't need two DH's.
Let me supply the major reason why--check out homies playoff numbers as a Braves player:
2020 NLWC-----> .111/.111/.444/.556 2020 NLDS-----> .308/.308/.385/.692 2020 NLCS-----> .276/.323/.552/.874
2021----------> missed playoffs due to being suspended for beating and choking his wife
2022 NLDS-----> .000/.000/.000/.000 (0 for 8) 2023 NLDS-----> .154/.267/.154/.421
2024 NLWC-----> .286/.250/.286/.536
Over the last three years Ozuna is 4 for 28 in the playoffs, with no extra base hits, 1 RBI and 12 K's. Why the hell you want to keep that guy around and waste another $16M on him? Big deal he had a good season, how did that work out? Again.
What good does it do to pay a guy a lot of money, and even if he has a good or great regular season, what good does it do if he sucks every year in the playoffs? I've seen enough of him during the playoffs I'd rather see him gone at this point. We could get a pretty good player in return. These numbers I've posted cover 84 PA's. That's a pretty significant amount, to have one of your supposed top hitters fall on his face year after in the playoffs.
Ironically, the SOB has had one good playoff series in his career--guess when----2019 when he was with the Cardinals, in the series where they scored about 100 runs in the first inning of the deciding game against us.
He did this against us: .429/.478/.857/1.335
And meanwhile, in 95 career playoff PA's, here's Soler's numbers:
.275/.389/.638/1.027
I thought adding Soler was odd when we did it, but it would make total sense if the plan was the exercise Ozuna then trade him. We have a way better DH option, we only need one, and we have Soler for two more years.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 4, 2024 23:11:14 GMT -5
To me it makes so much sense that I feel assured Snitker will veto the idea, lol
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 4, 2024 23:19:42 GMT -5
To me it makes so much sense that I feel assured Snitker will veto the idea, lol Exactly!
Let's have another playoff year in 2025 where the clown goes 1 for 19 with 12 strikeouts, why not, it's FUN!
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Post by joeyg39 on Oct 5, 2024 12:18:43 GMT -5
This statement is from our resident self-acclaimed mastermind genius Flubduckery who claims that if you fail to perform at any stage in the playoffs, then you should be publicly disgraced.
**What we really needed him for was the playoffs and he failed. We don’t make the playoffs without his regular season performance, but what good did it to us to make the playoffs. When we look back at the last 30 years of regular season success and playoff failures do we list personal achievements? Like yeah we lost in whatever year but remember the year Chipper had that year? Yeah we lost but Smoltz was awesome. No we don’t. We’ve had enough regular season success to make me vomit considering our playoff failures. So this is one more of those failures, with our best pitcher not there for the fight that mattered. So…….fail.**
His logic...not mine
Willie Mays...ever hear of him? 134 WS PA's .248/.343/.325 slash line with 1HR Oh,and btw, the WS MVP is now called the "Willie Mays" World Series MVP. (Stinks according to Flubduckery logic)
Mookie Betts... 58G 231AB 4HR 18RBI .251BA >33/.377/.710 (Useless in Flubduckery"s eyes)
Joe Morgan... 50G .182BA (Useless in Flubduckery"s eyes)
ARod... 8 series with the Yankees hit under .200 tallying 33K's and only 5RBI (Useless in Flubduckery's eyes)
Dave Winfield... "Mr. May" .208BA with 116PA including 1-for-22 WS in 1981. (Useless in Fluduckery's eyes)
Jeff Bagwell... 6 post season series- 33G 129PA .226/.364/.321 (Useless in Flubduckery's eyes)
Craig Biggio... 6pss- 40G 185PA .234/.295/.323 (Useless in Flubduckery's eyes)
Starting to get the point? HOF players who failed to perform in the playoffs. All that says is that in a small sample size, if you happen to get cold, then this is what happens. By that logic, Ozuna (other than his lights out series against us w/the Cards is a failure. Acuna is a failure. Sale is a failure. Even Greg Maddux would be a failure...
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Post by PABraveFan on Oct 5, 2024 12:53:54 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of best ERA.... About Arcia, he said as the team was constructed he was an 8-9 hitter and no one was counting on offense from Arcia and that his fielding is in itself almost as good as offense for the runs he saves. So there doesn't seem to be any plans to do anything there. He also noted that with a healthy Acuña, Harris, Laureano, Kelenic,Soler, and Ozuna... they feel good where the are in the outfield and DH. So much so we may even struggle getting everyone at bats.. 1st, 2nd, 3rd are locked up.... Seems to me a backup infielder and 1 veteran presents starter is all they might be looking at. He didn't mention Smurphy... maybe they will try something there? It's too bad they can't find a way to get someone like Wild Bill Contreras. We have Baldwin up and coming. Too bad there is a $15M albatross around our neck that it would be hard to even trade him without either eating some of that or finding anther team that is in the same type of situation with another player. Case in point is someone like Bo Bichette but he only has one more year at $17.5M. Murphy has 4 I believe. Perhaps we can find a match somewhere. Hopefully, Murphy takes the off season to correct things as that appears to be our best hope. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 5, 2024 13:01:38 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of best ERA.... About Arcia, he said as the team was constructed he was an 8-9 hitter and no one was counting on offense from Arcia and that his fielding is in itself almost as good as offense for the runs he saves. So there doesn't seem to be any plans to do anything there. He also noted that with a healthy Acuña, Harris, Laureano, Kelenic,Soler, and Ozuna... they feel good where the are in the outfield and DH. So much so we may even struggle getting everyone at bats.. 1st, 2nd, 3rd are locked up.... Seems to me a backup infielder and 1 veteran presents starter is all they might be looking at. He didn't mention Smurphy... maybe they will try something there? It's too bad they can't find a way to get someone like Wild Bill Contreras. We have Baldwin up and coming. Too bad there is a $15M albatross around our neck that it would be hard to even trade him without either eating some of that or finding anther team that is in the same type of situation with another player. Case in point is someone like Bo Bichette but he only has one more year at $17.5M. Murphy has 4 I believe. Perhaps we can find a match somewhere. Hopefully, Murphy takes the off season to correct things as that appears to be our best hope. I’m pretty sure we’re stuck with Murphy. The catching position has pretty much turned into a situation where few of them play more than about 100 games, and there’s a whole slew of them that are mediocre and way cheaper than Murphy. I can’t see anybody risking it unless we paid a whole lot of his salary. |
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 5, 2024 20:19:29 GMT -5
Chaps my ass to no end that we had two of the best young catchers in the game and now we have Murphy.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 8, 2024 14:51:48 GMT -5
Chaps my ass to no end that we had two of the best young catchers in the game and now we have Murphy. Ditto that... I can't imagine AA ever making a bigger mistake than the one he made with Contreras. |
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 10, 2024 9:26:00 GMT -5
It sure will be nice to have Acuna back.
And, Riley.
Also, Spencer Strider.
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