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Post by jryanw on Apr 20, 2018 10:55:04 GMT -5
Fans are apparently only happy with a manager if he goes undefeated. Personally, I think this chrome domed Snitker cat is doing a pretty good job.
I agree. He's not going to always make the right decisions, but who does? I think he's done fine and the players play hard for him. Some may get frustrated with his handling of the pitching staff, but most of the time the choice is right, it's just that the pitchers fail to execute. To me, that's more of a reflection on Hernandez than Snitker.
And let's face it, he's not Fredi Gonzalez, so we should all be thankful for that.
Wrong on so many levels. Hernandez is his higher so if Hernandez sucks then he sucks. Snit not only can't manage the bullpen he also often coaches with his heart not with his head. You just watch he'll ride this Flarety thing until it beat into the ground and less AA forces his hand. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 20, 2018 15:25:30 GMT -5
As has been pointed out, he makes some bad decisions other than pitching. His insistence on double switching and taking Tucker out for “defense” by putting in goofball Bourjos has been stupid several times. In late tight games where we need Tuckers bat still in the lineup.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Apr 20, 2018 15:51:31 GMT -5
As has been pointed out, he makes some bad decisions other than pitching. His insistence on double switching and taking Tucker out for “defense” by putting in goofball Bourjos has been stupid several times. In late tight games where we need Tuckers bat still in the lineup.
See, I understand the philosophy of the double switch. You have a lead - you supposedly trust your bullpen late so you take out a weak defender to give yourself a better chance of defending the lead. Otherwise, you are just saying, "well, since my relievers are going to blow it, I better leave the better hitter in so he can help us come back later." That's a defeatist way of managing in my book, but whatever.
I understand that Snitker is not the ideal manager, but I find myself getting much more frustrated with the player's lack of execution than with his decisions.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 20, 2018 16:49:47 GMT -5
That's not been the case however... he's done this in tie games with 3 innings left and the opposing team
not having any left handed pitching left...
... and again.. his insistence on doing it so early has left us with a pitcher batting with 2 outs left and
the game on the line. Everyone gets the idea behind the double switch and what I have said repeatedly
is not a defeatist attitude based on thinking we have to come back because the pitcher will blow a
lead. He's done this when there was no lead, and most certainly Bourjos and pitcher Shane Carle with a lifetime
of 2 major league at bats isn't going to help you get that lead.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 20, 2018 17:35:17 GMT -5
It’s not that I don’t agree with the double switch or don’t get it, I just don’t think you do it every night no matter what the situation is. And that’s what he’s doing. And it’s even more ridiculous because he’s relying so much on Bourjos, who is useless.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 20, 2018 18:09:57 GMT -5
ya I really don't see Bonjourno as that much better a defensive
sub than Adams, and Adams had pop in his bat.
Even then I haven't agreed with the almost automatic double switch
around the 6th. Two times now we've faced crucial at bats later in the
game with the post switch pitcher spot up.
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Post by jryanw on Apr 20, 2018 20:38:41 GMT -5
It’s not that I don’t agree with the double switch or don’t get it, I just don’t think you do it every night no matter what the situation is. And that’s what he’s doing. And it’s even more ridiculous because he’s relying so much on Bourjos, who is useless. This is the coaching with his heart not his head problem. He falls in love with crappy players. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 20, 2018 23:00:10 GMT -5
It’s not that I don’t agree with the double switch or don’t get it, I just don’t think you do it every night no matter what the situation is. And that’s what he’s doing. And it’s even more ridiculous because he’s relying so much on Bourjos, who is useless. This is the coaching with his heart not his head problem. He falls in love with crappy players. That and wanting to follow the book to a T. He has it in his head that he needs to bring Bourjos into the game every night no matter what. And I agree with HMF doing it in the 6th or 7th inning is even more ridiculous. |
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Post by bravepap on Apr 22, 2018 5:55:59 GMT -5
....and yet he had Carmago hitting away with Dansby on base to tie the game last night.......sometimes we get so caught up in the national hate the manager sport that we fail to notice the things he does right......like players, managers do make errors-----if the players play like they should, even I could look like a good manager.  ......................well, maybe..... |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 22, 2018 7:01:43 GMT -5
Well yeah... there are 9 players on the field and if the pitcher makes the pitch and the fielder
makes the play and then if the batters get the hit; then Sir Whinea a lot would look like a
great manager. In that regard you can say it is always the players fault when things don't work
out... always.. yet managers get fired every year.
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Post by bravepap on Apr 22, 2018 7:05:41 GMT -5
Hence the "managers make errors like players" comment...
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Post by jryanw on Apr 22, 2018 7:51:07 GMT -5
....and yet he had Carmago hitting away with Dansby on base to tie the game last night.......sometimes we get so caught up in the national hate the manager sport that we fail to notice the things he does right......like players, managers do make errors-----if the players play like they should, even I could look like a good manager. ......................well, maybe..... So one good call is supposed to negate all of the bad calls that have already been mentioned? Fredi Gonzales used his bullpen properly once or twice in his time as our manager. Should we have kept him? Oh no I hope we didn't mess up by firing Fredi. See how you logics is like a boat with holes taking on water? |
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Post by bravepap on Apr 22, 2018 8:08:06 GMT -5
LOL........I think you guys misunderstood my whole point. I'm not a Snitker guy, but we get so caught up in trying to find a Universally Utopian manager that sometimes we miss when they actually do something right.
I'm not arguing about a f$%#Y$&*& manager, since I never once went to a game to watch them manage....so I'll give you the last word......
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 22, 2018 8:50:40 GMT -5
No I go it, pap...
It's just that it's a managers job to not lose the game by doing something stupid, so
it only gets pointed out when they do something stupid. Think about normal jobs.. the
boss rarely points it out when you are just doing what you are supposed to be doing, but
will speak up quickly when you screw up.
Think about umpires... a great day for an umpire or referee is when no one talks about
them. They only get pointed out when they make a mistake.
Same thing really... any day people don't complain about the manager is a great day for
them.
It's just human nature, but it would be nice to have it pointed out more when they do make
that really good move, and letting Camargo swing was one of those moments.
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Post by bravepap on Apr 22, 2018 8:58:24 GMT -5
Actually, I think I just liked saying "with Dansby on base".... I understand. |
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