|
Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 5, 2021 21:36:06 GMT -5
fixed that for you... it's what he does... I'll bet Snitker talks about other managers being terrible managers when they use position players to pitch late in blowouts, because somehow Matzek has become our guy for that role. I don't care if Tomlin gives up 42 more runs in the bottom of the 8th you trot him back out there and save Matzek and everybody else. It's not rocket science. Of all the issues we have, this one really makes me sad that a big league manager can't figure this situation out any better than this. This is the most retarded thing any big league manager has ever done, and he's done it several times. I wish Snitwit's wife would sit him down some night and slap him in the face as hard as she can and say--"in the blowout games--let your mop up man take one for the team--save your good relievers, you f***ing idiot." I seriously don't know what to say about him any longer. His moves are let's say... perplexing at the very best.
|
|
|
Post by PABraveFan on Jul 5, 2021 21:39:17 GMT -5
Losage, well deserved I might add!.
|
|
maverick86
Low A Farmhand
2021 World Series Champs
Posts: 877
Likes: 98
|
Post by maverick86 on Jul 5, 2021 22:06:22 GMT -5
Braves stink. Plain and simple.
|
|
|
Post by TomlinFoolery on Jul 5, 2021 22:29:19 GMT -5
75 wins seems about right for this bunch. Maybe 78 if they have a semi prolonged hot stretch.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 22:38:17 GMT -5
Got our butts kicked by a Horse Shrit team - plain and simple
No more to say on this one
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 22:45:46 GMT -5
I would like to cut ties with Mister Unmentionable, but one thing to remember about cutting ties, there is a big difference between Hector Olivera as a player and Mr. Unmentionable as far as career accomplishment and money. I have no idea how it will shake out but stay tuned. It can go a number of ways Every time you say that I'm going to repeat that it doesn't matter, that does not play into any decisions our management should make. Yea - but what should be done and what will be done might be two different things. I don't know - that is all. They cannot say anything publicly and should not at this time. I do not envy them on that decision
|
|
|
Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 5, 2021 23:00:51 GMT -5
What happens in the legal sense with the unmentionable one is separate from the admitted and known facts of the case.
MLB can take action that is separate of the criminal investigation and the team.. any team in this situation should have an avenue for possibly voiding contracts.
|
|
|
Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 5, 2021 23:22:40 GMT -5
What happens in the legal sense with the unmentionable one is separate from the admitted and known facts of the case. MLB can take action that is separate of the criminal investigation and the team.. any team in this situation should have an avenue for possibly voiding contracts. Yes I agree.
There's never been a case like this in any sport--the difference this time being that the cops saw what happened themselves and filed the charges so they can't be dropped or have an agreement reached outside of court like we always see.
I have a gut feeling though that money is still going to get him out of it one way or another.
|
|
|
Post by keystone61 on Jul 6, 2021 6:15:47 GMT -5
I'd offer the beater a year's pay (maybe less) for his contract and watch him squirm.
|
|
|
Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 6, 2021 7:39:06 GMT -5
I don’t see what his incentive is to accept any contract buyout. I get the impression he’s the type who would be more than happy to collect his money, lay around on a tropic island, balloon up to 350 pounds, smoke his cigars, eat all the seafood and steak he wants and bang young island girls the rest of his life and never play another inning of baseball anywhere.
Oh my god what I’d give to trade places with him. As long as there’s no prison time involved!
|
|
|
Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 6, 2021 8:12:50 GMT -5
I don’t see what his incentive is to accept any contract buyout. I get the impression he’s the type who would be more than happy to collect his money, lay around on a tropic island, balloon up to 350 pounds, smoke his cigars, eat all the seafood and steak he wants and bang young island girls the rest of his life and never play another inning of baseball anywhere. Oh my god what I’d give to trade places with him. As long as there’s no prison time involved! Yeah... I mean don't make it sound like the impression you have of what he would prefer is a bad thing.
|
|
|
Post by keystone61 on Jul 6, 2021 8:33:33 GMT -5
I don’t see what his incentive is to accept any contract buyout. I get the impression he’s the type who would be more than happy to collect his money, lay around on a tropic island, balloon up to 350 pounds, smoke his cigars, eat all the seafood and steak he wants and bang young island girls the rest of his life and never play another inning of baseball anywhere. Oh my god what I’d give to trade places with him. As long as there’s no prison time involved! Sounds like a plan. Problem is, the Braves just might be able to get out of the remainder of the contract, and there would be no money to collect. Not saying they'll be able to, but it sounds like it might be a possibility. As for the beater, he could just as easily be the type to wind up cleaning pools on the island and being a belligerent drunk for the rest of his life once he blows through what money he has.
|
|
|
Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 6, 2021 11:54:33 GMT -5
I don’t see what his incentive is to accept any contract buyout. I get the impression he’s the type who would be more than happy to collect his money, lay around on a tropic island, balloon up to 350 pounds, smoke his cigars, eat all the seafood and steak he wants and bang young island girls the rest of his life and never play another inning of baseball anywhere. Oh my god what I’d give to trade places with him. As long as there’s no prison time involved! Sounds like a plan. Problem is, the Braves just might be able to get out of the remainder of the contract, and there would be no money to collect. Not saying they'll be able to, but it sounds like it might be a possibility. As for the beater, he could just as easily be the type to wind up cleaning pools on the island and being a belligerent drunk for the rest of his life once he blows through what money he has. Yeah I realize depending on what happens legally the Braves could end up being able to get out of it completely. But I believe you guys were talking about making a deal with him. I don’t see why he would do that if he thinks or knows he’s going to end up getting out of all the legal issues.
|
|
|
Post by keystone61 on Jul 6, 2021 12:08:33 GMT -5
Sounds like a plan. Problem is, the Braves just might be able to get out of the remainder of the contract, and there would be no money to collect. Not saying they'll be able to, but it sounds like it might be a possibility. As for the beater, he could just as easily be the type to wind up cleaning pools on the island and being a belligerent drunk for the rest of his life once he blows through what money he has. Yeah I realize depending on what happens legally the Braves could end up being able to get out of it completely. But I believe you guys were talking about making a deal with him. I don’t see why he would do that if he thinks or knows he’s going to end up getting out of all the legal issues. I don't know, but $15 million or so is a LOT of money. I live a simple lifestyle, so that amount would easily do me and my family in fine fashion for a couple more generations. I guess it depends on how big a gambler he is. You're one guy with limited resources going up against a large organization with a staff of full-time attorneys. Liberty will without a doubt look at various scenarios from a cost/benefit perspective. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
|
|
|
Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 6, 2021 13:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah I realize depending on what happens legally the Braves could end up being able to get out of it completely. But I believe you guys were talking about making a deal with him. I don’t see why he would do that if he thinks or knows he’s going to end up getting out of all the legal issues. I don't know, but $15 million or so is a LOT of money. I live a simple lifestyle, so that amount would easily do me and my family in fine fashion for a couple more generations. I guess it depends on how big a gambler he is. You're one guy with limited resources going up against a large organization with a staff of full-time attorneys. Liberty will without a doubt look at various scenarios from a cost/benefit perspective. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out. From what I can tell it would all come down to whether he actually gets convicted of anything. If he does I feel sure we can get out of it, if he doesn't get convicted we're going to have to pay his full contract. That's just my opinion.
I don't know how he could look himself in the mirror, but these are people who felt entitled for most of their lives.
|
|