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Post by wncbravesfan on Sept 23, 2019 21:50:05 GMT -5
Josh Tomlin, RHP, 2-1, 3.82 ERA, 47 SO
Tomlin will start in place of rookie right-hander Mike Soroka, who has been pushed back to Sunday for some extra rest. With a strong outing, Tomlin would strengthen his bid to be put on the NL Division Series roster as a long reliever.
(PITCHING CHANGE, Tomlin to pitch tonight)
vs
Mike Montgomery, LHP, 3-9, 5.00 ERA, 65 K's
Montgomery had a rough go of it Thursday in Minnesota. He was ejected for the first time in his career after giving up a home run to Mitch Garvey leading off the fifth. Montgomery logged four innings and gave up seven hits and five runs.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Sept 25, 2019 8:38:39 GMT -5
Should be an interesting lineup without Acuna and Freddie
I would go with:
DH Swanson
2B Albies
3B Donaldson
RF Duvall
LF Markakis
1B Riley
C Cervelli
SS Hechavarria
CF Hamilton
Give Dansby extra ABs and allow him to just focus on getting right at the plate. Will probably see Flowers at C, but if we are going to carry Cervelli on the playoff roster, I would like to see him continue to get some game time work with the pitchers.
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Post by dirt on Sept 25, 2019 11:04:47 GMT -5
Soroka out Tomlin in wnc. Dansby, Fansby, Swansby, hasn’t hit since the all star game. I doubt a couple extra at bats in the next 4 games is going to solve his problems. I think Snit said Cervelli playing first tonight.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 25, 2019 11:21:58 GMT -5
I doubt the extra ABs will help either but I’d still give them to him, it can’t hurt at this point.
I think it’s time to scrap the idea Riley can be an asset this year in the playoffs. I’d play Duvall at 1B, Nick in LF and Joyce in RF.
Hech “should” get more ABs too, but we know where that stands.
I’d go Dansby, Ozzie, JD, Cervelli, Hech, Joyce, Nick, Duvall, Hamilton to get more ABs for the guys who need them. But Nick will bat 4th or 5th, because.....
I would leave Ozzie hitting 2nd though because he is in a groove and I wouldn’t mess with that.
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Post by keystone61 on Sept 25, 2019 11:22:00 GMT -5
Should be an interesting lineup without Acuna and Freddie I would go with: DH Swanson 2B Albies 3B Donaldson RF Duvall LF Markakis 1B Riley C Cervelli SS Hechavarria CF Hamilton Give Dansby extra ABs and allow him to just focus on getting right at the plate. Will probably see Flowers at C, but if we are going to carry Cervelli on the playoff roster, I would like to see him continue to get some game time work with the pitchers. Man, that is one offensively challenged lineup. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 25, 2019 11:27:24 GMT -5
Why is Soroka out? So he can pitch Sunday then Friday?
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Post by littlebeast1 on Sept 25, 2019 11:29:13 GMT -5
Should be an interesting lineup without Acuna and Freddie I would go with: DH Swanson 2B Albies 3B Donaldson RF Duvall LF Markakis 1B Riley C Cervelli SS Hechavarria CF Hamilton Give Dansby extra ABs and allow him to just focus on getting right at the plate. Will probably see Flowers at C, but if we are going to carry Cervelli on the playoff roster, I would like to see him continue to get some game time work with the pitchers. Man, that is one offensively challenged lineup. Missing Acuna AND Freeman makes anything we throw out there offensively challenged. |
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Post by littlebeast1 on Sept 25, 2019 11:30:07 GMT -5
Why is Soroka out? So he can pitch Sunday then Friday? That's what I heard. Although, there has been some talk of having him start Game 3 on the road since his road splits have been better. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 25, 2019 11:43:12 GMT -5
Why is Soroka out? So he can pitch Sunday then Friday? That's what I heard. Although, there has been some talk of having him start Game 3 on the road since his road splits have been better. I’m not opposed to that and I’d rather have Folty pitching at home than game 3 on the road...I guess....hard to tell with him what might or might not set him off. |
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Post by keystone61 on Sept 25, 2019 12:48:41 GMT -5
I doubt the extra ABs will help either but I’d still give them to him, it can’t hurt at this point. I think it’s time to scrap the idea Riley can be an asset this year in the playoffs. I’d play Duvall at 1B, Nick in LF and Joyce in RF. Hech “should” get more ABs too, but we know where that stands. I’d go Dansby, Ozzie, JD, Cervelli, Hech, Joyce, Nick, Duvall, Hamilton to get more ABs for the guys who need them. But Nick will bat 4th or 5th, because..... I would leave Ozzie hitting 2nd though because he is in a groove and I wouldn’t mess with that. Yeah, Riley shouldn't even be on the roster right now, but I guess we have to have somebody. He's got a LOT to do to become an every day major league contributor. He strikes out at an alarming rate, and as much as I hate to say it, he's got Brad Komminsk written all over him. It's hard to believe how well he hit when he first came up, but he obviously hasn't been able to make the necessary adjustments. As for Dansby, his value is almost totally in his glove at this point, and he has a history of not being able to break out of slumps. Hopefully that changes. Hech is just as good defensively, and obviously hitting much better. Hopefully, Camargo and Inciarte get healthy. Dansby will survive because we don't have anybody to play SS but him and Hech, otherwise he might have been left off again this year. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 25, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -5
I doubt the extra ABs will help either but I’d still give them to him, it can’t hurt at this point. I think it’s time to scrap the idea Riley can be an asset this year in the playoffs. I’d play Duvall at 1B, Nick in LF and Joyce in RF. Hech “should” get more ABs too, but we know where that stands. I’d go Dansby, Ozzie, JD, Cervelli, Hech, Joyce, Nick, Duvall, Hamilton to get more ABs for the guys who need them. But Nick will bat 4th or 5th, because..... I would leave Ozzie hitting 2nd though because he is in a groove and I wouldn’t mess with that. Yeah, Riley shouldn't even be on the roster right now, but I guess we have to have somebody. He's got a LOT to do to become an every day major league contributor. He strikes out at an alarming rate, and as much as I hate to say it, he's got Brad Komminsk written all over him. It's hard to believe how well he hit when he first came up, but he obviously hasn't been able to make the necessary adjustments. As for Dansby, his value is almost totally in his glove at this point, and he has a history of not being able to break out of slumps. Hopefully that changes. Hech is just as good defensively, and obviously hitting much better. Hopefully, Camargo and Inciarte get healthy. Dansby will survive because we don't have anybody to play SS but him and Hech, otherwise he might have been left off again this year. I still think Riley will be ok in the long run, he's just not ready yet. He needs to face a lot of major league level breaking balls this offseason and work on getting better at recognizing them.
Dansby has not had a real good year with the glove either. He had a great year last year, not this year. The defensive numbers reflected both seasons to match the eye test on that. I took a good look at all of his numbers since he's been in the league and compared him to other shortstops, and he's somewhere between about 16th to 29th in every category one could possibly imagine. Overall he ranks around 20th to 22nd. I don't see why we should be satisfied with that. I don't have specific suggestions in regards to specific players we should target, but like I said the other day I don't mind giving him through his arb years (2022) to show us he can be more consistent. He just shouldn't be carved into concrete as our every day starter, we need an improvement at that position whatever it takes. And how long does he get to prove he should be that every day guy? Isn't three years a significant shot at it and it hasn't happened?
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Post by littlebeast1 on Sept 25, 2019 14:45:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Riley shouldn't even be on the roster right now, but I guess we have to have somebody. He's got a LOT to do to become an every day major league contributor. He strikes out at an alarming rate, and as much as I hate to say it, he's got Brad Komminsk written all over him. It's hard to believe how well he hit when he first came up, but he obviously hasn't been able to make the necessary adjustments. As for Dansby, his value is almost totally in his glove at this point, and he has a history of not being able to break out of slumps. Hopefully that changes. Hech is just as good defensively, and obviously hitting much better. Hopefully, Camargo and Inciarte get healthy. Dansby will survive because we don't have anybody to play SS but him and Hech, otherwise he might have been left off again this year. I still think Riley will be ok in the long run, he's just not ready yet. He needs to face a lot of major league level breaking balls this offseason and work on getting better at recognizing them.
Dansby has not had a real good year with the glove either. He had a great year last year, not this year. The defensive numbers reflected both seasons to match the eye test on that. I took a good look at all of his numbers since he's been in the league and compared him to other shortstops, and he's somewhere between about 16th to 29th in every category one could possibly imagine. Overall he ranks around 20th to 22nd. I don't see why we should be satisfied with that. I don't have specific suggestions in regards to specific players we should target, but like I said the other day I don't mind giving him through his arb years (2022) to show us he can be more consistent. He just shouldn't be carved into concrete as our every day starter, we need an improvement at that position whatever it takes. And how long does he get to prove he should be that every day guy? Isn't three years a significant shot at it and it hasn't happened?
Guess we will know what direction the organization is going to go in by next week. If they start Hech (and I'm not saying they shouldn't), it pretty much tells Dansby that they have no confidence in him. How can they seriously then move forward with him as the starting SS in 2020? |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 25, 2019 14:54:46 GMT -5
I still think Riley will be ok in the long run, he's just not ready yet. He needs to face a lot of major league level breaking balls this offseason and work on getting better at recognizing them.
Dansby has not had a real good year with the glove either. He had a great year last year, not this year. The defensive numbers reflected both seasons to match the eye test on that. I took a good look at all of his numbers since he's been in the league and compared him to other shortstops, and he's somewhere between about 16th to 29th in every category one could possibly imagine. Overall he ranks around 20th to 22nd. I don't see why we should be satisfied with that. I don't have specific suggestions in regards to specific players we should target, but like I said the other day I don't mind giving him through his arb years (2022) to show us he can be more consistent. He just shouldn't be carved into concrete as our every day starter, we need an improvement at that position whatever it takes. And how long does he get to prove he should be that every day guy? Isn't three years a significant shot at it and it hasn't happened?
Guess we will know what direction the organization is going to go in by next week. If they start Hech (and I'm not saying they shouldn't), it pretty much tells Dansby that they have no confidence in him. How can they seriously then move forward with him as the starting SS in 2020? I feel 99% sure that no matter what Hech and Dansby do through this Sunday that Dansby will be or starting SS in the playoffs. If he struggles in the playoffs I could see them adding someone during the offseason to push him.....not a top 10-15 SS but one who has been equal to or better than Dansby and throwing the job up for grabs or at least cutting his playing time. He's had enough hot streaks and such a great year with the glove last year I don't think they'll give up on him, being young and cost controlled, and I still don't think they should necessarily give up on him. All I've ever asked all along is don't throw him out there every single day when he's having two and three month long slumps. You can see he has no confidence at the plate again. Once the confidence goes a guy needs to sit some, clear his head and do some extra side work to help get back to fundamentals. Sitting and watching slows things down again for a guy--when you're struggling everything about the game goes by like a speeding train. Let the guy slow his mind down and regroup. |
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Post by keystone61 on Sept 25, 2019 15:05:18 GMT -5
It seems the bottom line with Dansby is that he's just an average player at best. It may not be time to give up on him, but that time is drawing near. He's at the age where he should be at his peak, not struggling like some 20-year-old kid called up too soon. I think we need to strongly consider going in another direction as soon as possible. Average players are not hard to find.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Sept 25, 2019 15:47:22 GMT -5
Tonight's lineup:
Swanson SS
Albies 2B
Donaldson 3B
Markakis RF
Duvall LF
Cervelli 1B
Riley DH
Flowers C
Hamilton CF
Tomlin SP
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