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Post by keystone61 on Jul 2, 2018 8:17:12 GMT -5
Remember when the running joke (or one of them) on the old board was trading for bullpen arms? It's not so funny right now.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 2, 2018 8:47:46 GMT -5
As much as I would love to get a guy like Syndergaard, he doesn't solve our biggest problem. They said on the broadcast that the Braves starters had the best ERA in the majors through the first 81 games. If they could just go a little deeper ... but that's a battle for another day.
AA needs to get at least two more good arms for the pen. Moylan and Freeman need to be gone. I'm OK with keeping Viz, Minter, Winkler, Carle and Biddle. Still so frustrated that we let Hererra go to the Nats for nothing, but no use beating a dead horse.
I'd be OK if we pursued a guy like Texas' Keone Kela or Toronto's Ryan Tepera (or both)
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Post by wncbravesfan on Jul 2, 2018 9:09:08 GMT -5
Are you stoned right now by chance? They can certainly improve. They're bullpen is ranked 21st in ERA, but 9th in BAA and 10th in SOs (so that's good). What they really need to fix are the walks. That's what's been killing the team. Biddle, Freeman, and Moylan are killing the team in walks, and I'm good with giving other guys a shot. I know Evan Phillips is supposed to have good stuff, and relievers aren't that expensive on the trade market. A deal here, a deal there, and the bullpen could be a top bullpen. As for the bullpen I posted, like I said, it's not the best, but it's not the worst. It's an average bullpen. And if the Braves do make a run at the playoffs, they're gonna have some starters in that bullpen. Guys like Soroka, Fried, Gohara, Touki, Teheran, and others will be available. Fried sure was impressive in his last start...
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 2, 2018 9:50:08 GMT -5
I wonder what it would take to get Kyle Barraclough from the Marlins? He would be a great 7th or 8th inning guy.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 2, 2018 11:02:03 GMT -5
I wonder what it would take to get Kyle Barraclough from the Marlins? He would be a great 7th or 8th inning guy. I agree, he would be a great acquisition, he's been on my radar all year.
I think Freeman would be ok if he wasn't so overworked. he was good last year, and he has been this year until he gets used too much, and then his command goes completely Moylan.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 2, 2018 11:45:50 GMT -5
As much as I would love to get a guy like Syndergaard, he doesn't solve our biggest problem. They said on the broadcast that the Braves starters had the best ERA in the majors through the first 81 games. If they could just go a little deeper ... but that's a battle for another day. AA needs to get at least two more good arms for the pen. Moylan and Freeman need to be gone. I'm OK with keeping Viz, Minter, Winkler, Carle and Biddle. Still so frustrated that we let Hererra go to the Nats for nothing, but no use beating a dead horse. I'd be OK if we pursued a guy like Texas' Keone Kela or Toronto's Ryan Tepera (or both) I’m sorry, but you don’t pass on a top-5 MLB pitcher, who is under control for another 3 years, because you need a couple of bullpen arms. That would be like passing up on a top-5 OFer because your bench is weak. It doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 2, 2018 12:01:37 GMT -5
As much as I would love to get a guy like Syndergaard, he doesn't solve our biggest problem. They said on the broadcast that the Braves starters had the best ERA in the majors through the first 81 games. If they could just go a little deeper ... but that's a battle for another day. AA needs to get at least two more good arms for the pen. Moylan and Freeman need to be gone. I'm OK with keeping Viz, Minter, Winkler, Carle and Biddle. Still so frustrated that we let Hererra go to the Nats for nothing, but no use beating a dead horse. I'd be OK if we pursued a guy like Texas' Keone Kela or Toronto's Ryan Tepera (or both) I’m sorry, but you don’t pass on a top-5 MLB pitcher, who is under control for another 3 years, because you need a couple of bullpen arms. That would be like passing up on a top-5 OFer because your bench is weak. It doesn’t make any sense. I'd say it's quite premature to claim Noah is a top 5 MLB pitcher. He has that potential but he's not there now.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 2, 2018 12:17:54 GMT -5
I’m sorry, but you don’t pass on a top-5 MLB pitcher, who is under control for another 3 years, because you need a couple of bullpen arms. That would be like passing up on a top-5 OFer because your bench is weak. It doesn’t make any sense. I'd say it's quite premature to claim Noah is a top 5 MLB pitcher. He has that potential but he's not there now. When healthy, he’s a top-5 pitcher. He’s had injury issues, no doubt about that, but in 2016, he’s one full year in the bigs, he lead all pitchers in war. Something happened in 2017, and I don’t know what it is. Thor’s war in 2016 would have been 22 in 2017, which I find peculiar.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 2, 2018 12:29:02 GMT -5
A guy has to have more than one great year to be a top 5 in my opinion. He did have a great season, but it's just one year. But I do see the potential. Personally I'd rather have deGrom.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 2, 2018 13:15:34 GMT -5
A guy has to have more than one great year to be a top 5 in my opinion. He did have a great season, but it's just one year. But I do see the potential. Personally I'd rather have deGrom. Ya, I would too, but it'd take a bigger haul and you'd get one less year.
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 2, 2018 13:23:40 GMT -5
deGrom is a much better pitcher than Thor, and obviously more expensive, plus there would be an intra-division premium with either of them.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 2, 2018 14:12:08 GMT -5
As much as I would love to get a guy like Syndergaard, he doesn't solve our biggest problem. They said on the broadcast that the Braves starters had the best ERA in the majors through the first 81 games. If they could just go a little deeper ... but that's a battle for another day. AA needs to get at least two more good arms for the pen. Moylan and Freeman need to be gone. I'm OK with keeping Viz, Minter, Winkler, Carle and Biddle. Still so frustrated that we let Hererra go to the Nats for nothing, but no use beating a dead horse. I'd be OK if we pursued a guy like Texas' Keone Kela or Toronto's Ryan Tepera (or both) I’m sorry, but you don’t pass on a top-5 MLB pitcher, who is under control for another 3 years, because you need a couple of bullpen arms. That would be like passing up on a top-5 OFer because your bench is weak. It doesn’t make any sense. It depends on how much of the farm they want before you decide whether or not you pass on him.
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Post by PABraveFan on Jul 2, 2018 14:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by mauibravefan on Jul 2, 2018 14:18:27 GMT -5
Moylan to DL (TRUTH...NO JOKE!) diagnosis forearm strain hmm no wonder he was giving up all those hit/runs/walks
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Post by PABraveFan on Jul 2, 2018 14:20:46 GMT -5
Moylan to DL (TRUTH...NO JOKE!) diagnosis forearm strain hmm no wonder he was giving up all those hit/runs/walks Yea..it seems every pitcher that performs badly goes the DL with that mysterious forearm strain. P.S. recalled righty Evan Phillips from Gwinnett in his place
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