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Post by Fumbduckery on May 10, 2018 20:19:57 GMT -5
Question. So the Orioles can't sign him to an extension then trade him? It would never happen. Just curious. Why would Machado do that as opposed to testing free agency? He'll get a lot more as a FA once the bidding war starts.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 20:22:49 GMT -5
Ok yeah that’s one of the dumbest things I’ve read in awhile. He even says we “might” win the division this year with Machado..... but it would be worth giving up 4 top prospects instead of just signing him in the offseason??? Pfffffffffttttttt....this is something Frank Wren or Cheaters would do. This is something that even Pit of Misery would not do -- and I trust AA is not that foolish No way I give up Riley at all -- he is part of the nucleus When its time to spend -- as I said -- spend on what you have and keep your nucleus -- we got burned with the Uggla trade/extension, Melvin (got to keep the profanity down) and Mc Louth -- looked good at the time but bad $hrit luck Spending is good but it has to be smart Now if you spend for Andrew MIller in the off season that is an idea worth looking into
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 10, 2018 23:05:07 GMT -5
Braves do all that for Machado, they’d still need to get a 3rd baseman and have to do something about Swanson.
Machado wants to be a shortstop.
Oh, and Bradley is an idiot.
It’s clearly obvious the Braves should be big players in the OF market and that’s it. They gotta get one of the top-3 FA OFers. What they do after that depends on who they sign.
If my life depended on it, I’d sign Pollock, Miller, and Patrick Corbin. Then I’d be looking to trade Inciarte + prospect pitching (anyone but Touki) for a massive OF upgrade.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 10, 2018 23:30:44 GMT -5
Braves do all that for Machado, they’d still need to get a 3rd baseman and have to do something about Swanson. Machado wants to be a shortstop. Oh, and Bradley is an idiot. It’s clearly obvious the Braves should be big players in the OF market and that’s it. They gotta get one of the top-3 FA OFers. What they do after that depends on who they sign. If my life depended on it, I’d sign Pollock, Miller, and Patrick Corbin. Then I’d be looking to trade Inciarte + prospect pitching (anyone but Touki) for a massive OF upgrade. I love the Pollock and Miller (or Kimbrel) idea.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 11, 2018 0:15:26 GMT -5
Braves do all that for Machado, they’d still need to get a 3rd baseman and have to do something about Swanson. Machado wants to be a shortstop. Oh, and Bradley is an idiot. It’s clearly obvious the Braves should be big players in the OF market and that’s it. They gotta get one of the top-3 FA OFers. What they do after that depends on who they sign. If my life depended on it, I’d sign Pollock, Miller, and Patrick Corbin. Then I’d be looking to trade Inciarte + prospect pitching (anyone but Touki) for a massive OF upgrade. I love the Pollock and Miller (or Kimbrel) idea. [ Those are definitely musts for me. I threw in Corbin to make a huge splash. I like that he’s only 28, but the fact that this is his first year of being elite, and it’s only been about 7 weeks worth of it, has me still apprehensive. I’m still on board with waiting for 2020 to get that Ace. I’m also of the opinion that trading Inciarte + pitching prospects for an elite OFer is a must move. Don’t have anyone singled out at the moment, but if the rotation is set, with an Ace at the helm, and the Braves still have a surplus, you gotta make a move like that. Kimbrel/Allen is an icing on the cake move. I’d be fine with the Braves signing another middle inning plus reliever and having a closer by committee or having Minter as the Closer.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 7:11:17 GMT -5
I love the Pollock and Miller (or Kimbrel) idea. [ Those are definitely musts for me. I threw in Corbin to make a huge splash. I like that he’s only 28, but the fact that this is his first year of being elite, and it’s only been about 7 weeks worth of it, has me still apprehensive. I’m still on bored with waiting for 2020 to get that Ace. I’m also of the opinion that trading Inciarte + pitching prospects for an elite OFer is a must move. Don’t have anyone singled out at the moment, but if the rotation is set, with an Ace at the helm, and the Braves still have a surplus, you gotta make a move like that. Kimbrel/Allen is an icing on the cake move. I’d be fine with the Braves signing another middle inning plus reliever and having a closer by committee or having Minter as the Closer. I am fine with bolstering the middle of the pen and grooming Minter as my closer of the future. -- would like it done as this season progresses I would not mind another yr of Nick as a place holder for Pache - but it is only one yr at 6.5 or even 7 mil (just throwing that number out there) As for trading Ender and a SP prospect or two, you better get a real good elite OF prospect & that is a move that could be done in another year We are not that bad off in the OF now -- and you could use Carmago there once Riley is ready Carmago can be your 10th man type where he gets PT all over the place - I think he is a valuable piece of the future
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 7:13:41 GMT -5
Seriously, what can the Orioles get for Machado now?
They are not really in a good position to shop -- who would give up what Bradley is proposing -- I say no one would do that for a two month rental
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 11, 2018 7:30:46 GMT -5
I love the Pollock and Miller (or Kimbrel) idea. [ Those are definitely musts for me. I threw in Corbin to make a huge splash. I like that he’s only 28, but the fact that this is his first year of being elite, and it’s only been about 7 weeks worth of it, has me still apprehensive. I’m still on bored with waiting for 2020 to get that Ace. I’m also of the opinion that trading Inciarte + pitching prospects for an elite OFer is a must move. Don’t have anyone singled out at the moment, but if the rotation is set, with an Ace at the helm, and the Braves still have a surplus, you gotta make a move like that. Kimbrel/Allen is an icing on the cake move. I’d be fine with the Braves signing another middle inning plus reliever and having a closer by committee or having Minter as the Closer. I like it. A lot.
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Post by keystone61 on May 11, 2018 8:56:15 GMT -5
I think the Braves' top priority is obviously to somehow hang on to Joe Baptist.
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Post by akod on May 11, 2018 13:02:23 GMT -5
Since Bradley can actually get paid to write crap like this I have no problem going all Mickey Mouse on a message board and say we should go hard after Harper. We have the money and the young talent to build around along with another MVP caliber player to pair him with. His brand name would be huge for marketing and ticket sales. Sports radio would go apeshit talking about the Braves non stop.
I find this option more likely and a much smarter business move than waiting money AND prospects on Machado assuming he signed an extension.
Albies Harper Acuna Freeman
First 4 you face in some variation. Missing the first inning would not be an option.
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Post by mauibravefan on May 12, 2018 0:05:57 GMT -5
I think the Braves' top priority is obviously to somehow hang on to Joe Baptist. And if he doesn't start producing feed him to Bradley
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Post by jryanw on May 12, 2018 20:59:33 GMT -5
Why trade for him when we can sign him in the offseason? Absolutely -- but why sign Machado when you have no idea what Riley who is going to be 21 can do -- he might be better and a lot cheaper than what you pay for Machado I can be assured that Alex is not that dumb -- Thank God that Bradley is not the GM And why do you want a Borass client when you have a legit guy so close who got promoted to AAA now -- we do not need to spend 250-300 mil for Machado There are other areas to spend on -- and do we really need to spend 200 plus this off season if things keep going this way? I think not -- they should spend to keep the nucleus in place when its time to spend on them not some FA who could get past his prime 1. Because Machado can play SS as well. 2. Because Riley could then be packaged up to get te TOTR arm we need. 3. Because you never let yourself not sign a great player because you might have a great player in the minors.
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Post by jryanw on May 12, 2018 21:07:49 GMT -5
Braves do all that for Machado, they’d still need to get a 3rd baseman and have to do something about Swanson. Machado wants to be a shortstop. Oh, and Bradley is an idiot. It’s clearly obvious the Braves should be big players in the OF market and that’s it. They gotta get one of the top-3 FA OFers. What they do after that depends on who they sign. If my life depended on it, I’d sign Pollock, Miller, and Patrick Corbin. Then I’d be looking to trade Inciarte + prospect pitching (anyone but Touki) for a massive OF upgrade. Machados demand to play SS is going to be our biggest hurdle in signing him and the main reason I've been all Harper and not Harper or Machado. We have Swanson but that's ok. We could trade him, move him to 3rd or maybe even move him to the OF. The problem is Machado is going to want a guarantee from the team that he will be the SS the entire time he signs for . I think it would be hard for us to convince him that would be the case.
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Post by turnerfield on May 12, 2018 23:25:03 GMT -5
Machado is an all but guaranteed Yankee next year with how much money they're going to have and how hard they'll push for him.
I don't know who our big splash is gonna be if it's not Harper. McCutchen? Pollack? Are we going to get a 33 year old Cargo? Adam Jones looks to be on the decline. Maybe a 31 year old Michael Brantly if he stays healthy this year.
Why not go after Lucroy?
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Post by jryanw on May 12, 2018 23:31:05 GMT -5
Machado is an all but guaranteed Yankee next year with how much money they're going to have and how hard they'll push for him. I don't know who our big splash is gonna be if it's not Harper. McCutchen? Pollack? Are we going to get a 33 year old Cargo? Adam Jones looks to be on the decline. Maybe a 31 year old Michael Brantly if he stays healthy this year. Why not go after Lucroy? Cargo jones and lucroy would not be improvements. If that's who we are left with next years FA is a failure, AA should be fired, and we should offer 1 year deals to unsigned vets and try again in 2020.
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