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Post by bravter on May 8, 2018 23:20:32 GMT -5
He was only hit by a pitch 18 times for his career. That pretty much averages one bean for each season. The most he's been beaned was 4 times in a single season and went his first full three season without getting hit. A player of his stature and as many pitches he has seen per at bat, considering how many walks he took and good at-bats he gave, I just find that stat remarkably low.
To put that in perspective Adam Dunn was beaned 86 times, Barry Bonds 106 times, Frank Thomas 87 times, Alex Rodriguez 176 times, Albert Pujols 103 times, Derek Jeter 170 times, Andruw Jones 97 times, Vladimir Guerrero 103 times, Andre Dawson 111 times, Gary Sheffield 135 times, Mike Trout 56 times, Jason Heyward 41 times, and Freddie Freeman 54 times. Ozzie Smith was actually pretty low 33 time hbp, but he was no where near as good as Chipper at the plate. Different era but Mickey Mantle was only hit 13 times.
Pretty fun comparing everyone to Chipper. It's not like Chipper was way off the plate or anything. Maybe he was just good at getting out of the way and pitchers respected him more, also being a switch hitter probably helped him get out of the way. You would just think there would be more revenge to hit him for the damage he did, especially the NY Mets.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 8, 2018 23:42:42 GMT -5
That's an interesting statistic. I would say that Chipper never really crowded the plate, like some of the guys you mentioned. Also, like you mentioned, you gotta believe that being a switch hitter had to help. You know, a good way to dig deeper into it would be to look at other switch hitters who had long careers. You mentioned Mantle, maybe check out Eddie Murray and Pete Rose.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 8, 2018 23:42:59 GMT -5
That's pretty hard to believe. He didn't stand that far away from the plate either.
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Post by bravter on May 8, 2018 23:49:38 GMT -5
I was thinking Andre Dawson was a switch hitter but he's not. I got him confused with Eddie Murray. Eddie Murray was only beaned 18 times too.
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Post by bravter on May 8, 2018 23:52:25 GMT -5
I'm going to post some switch hitters hbp.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 8, 2018 23:52:50 GMT -5
I was thinking Andre Dawson was a switch hitter but he's not. I got him confused with Eddie Murray. Eddie Murray was only beaned 18 times too. Maybe it has to do with arm angles from the pitchers, since Chipper and Murray always had an advantage there. Even then the number seems ridiculously low. |
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Post by bravter on May 9, 2018 0:07:00 GMT -5
Ruben Sierra 7 times, Bobby Bonilla 28 times, Willie Mcgee 15 times, Jorge Posada 74 times, Carlos Beltran 51 times, Reggie Smith 33 times, Bernie Williams 39 times, Lance Berkman 66 times, Tim Raines 42 times, Roberto Alomar 50 times, Pete Rose 107 times.
Most definitely on the lower end. Pete was looking to get on base and a hard nose player so I figured he'd be up there.
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Post by bravter on May 9, 2018 0:41:02 GMT -5
Some more mostly third basemen. George Brett 33 times, Mike Schmidt 79 times, Wade Boggs 23 times, Eddie Mathews 26 times, Adrian Beltre 92 times, Scott Rolen 127 times, Cal Ripken Jr. 66 times, David Wright 45 times, Robin Ventura 23 times, Matt Williams 55 times, Evan Longoria 56 times, Josh Donaldson 36 times, Terry Pendleton 15 times, Troy Glaus 46 times, Mike Lowell 56 times, Ryne Sandberg 32 times, Mark Grace 34 times
What I was going for at first was mostly great players during his time.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 9, 2018 1:22:52 GMT -5
What I was going for at first was mostly great players during his time. If we're going by that, Corky Miller was only hit 16 times. |
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Post by bravter on May 9, 2018 1:49:11 GMT -5
I forgot about him along with another all time great Ken Griffey Jr. 81 times, and his dad Ken Griffey Sr. 14. Justin Upton 58 hbp and 19 in one season, BJ Melvin Upton 24. Craig Biggio 285 times (2nd most all time) 34 in a single season. Anthony Rizzo had 30 in a single season I remember our announcers talking about him and Biggio being beaned a lot.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 9, 2018 6:50:31 GMT -5
That's an interesting statistic. I would say that Chipper never really crowded the plate, like some of the guys you mentioned. Also, like you mentioned, you gotta believe that being a switch hitter had to help. You know, a good way to dig deeper into it would be to look at other switch hitters who had long careers. You mentioned Mantle, maybe check out Eddie Murray and Pete Rose. Agree... I want to see the stats on other switch hitters because my first inclination is to think that has something to do with it. |
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Post by bravter on May 9, 2018 14:11:12 GMT -5
That's an interesting statistic. I would say that Chipper never really crowded the plate, like some of the guys you mentioned. Also, like you mentioned, you gotta believe that being a switch hitter had to help. You know, a good way to dig deeper into it would be to look at other switch hitters who had long careers. You mentioned Mantle, maybe check out Eddie Murray and Pete Rose. Agree... I want to see the stats on other switch hitters because my first inclination is to think that has something to do with it. I posted it earlier. I'll just copy paste it. Ruben Sierra 7 times, Bobby Bonilla 28 times, Willie Mcgee 15 times, Jorge Posada 74 times, Carlos Beltran 51 times, Reggie Smith 33 times, Bernie Williams 39 times, Lance Berkman 66 times, Tim Raines 42 times, Roberto Alomar 50 times, Pete Rose 107 times. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 9, 2018 14:51:58 GMT -5
I responded before I read all the following posts
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 9, 2018 14:52:46 GMT -5
Maybe it was Chippers man musk that pushed the ball away..
that's all I got
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