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Post by agentorange90 on Oct 28, 2021 17:32:38 GMT -5
We need Ian and the bullpen gang to shutout the Astros if that's even possible. I'll have to check if there is a a chart of the runs they scored per game this year. They only won 95 games but they are a solid bunch. I think like game 2 holding them to 2 runs may be the minimum # they have this series.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 17:45:01 GMT -5
We need Ian and the bullpen gang to shutout the Astros if that's even possible. I'll have to check if there is a a chart of the runs they scored per game this year. They only won 95 games but they are a solid bunch. I think like game 2 holding them to 2 runs may be the minimum # they have this series. They were #1 in the league in runs scored at 5.4 per game. They have scored 16 more runs than anyone else in the post season (Red Sox 2nd), and have scored 28 more runs than the Braves.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 28, 2021 18:24:57 GMT -5
I was pretty perturbed that we couldn't hit their starting pitcher better than we did last night. His fastball was 93-94 and straight as an arrow and his breaking stuff was flat with very little downward movement. I remember Smoltz saying early on that the guy had one of the best change ups in baseball and that's always a problem for us because we're such an aggressive team that sits on fastballs.
He ended up only throwing 18% change ups and fooled our guys almost every time he threw one, but I think we were so set on looking for that change that it sped his fastball up. He struck guys out left and right on straight fastballs in the zone which was really frustrating, and we looked like we were late on every one of them.
We really need to win game 3, we could be in deep doo doo if we don't with our pitching plans for games 4 and 5.
I'm still confuzzled why we used Smyly and Wright last night, unless we just hope to get a couple innings from each one in games 4 and 5. Smyly I understand, but we need Wright to go as far as we can possibly ride him. To me he should start on Saturday so he shouldn't been used last night. Especially after the game was out of hand pretty much. Wouldn't THAT have been a spot to use Davidson? I heard somewhere he was thinking of starting Davidson in one game? How asinine would that be? Again, if there was even a 1% chance they might try to use him in the playoffs, why didn't they have him pitching for us rather than Gwinnett the final weekend of the season. None of it makes any sense. Trying to figure out Snitker's thinking could make a person lose their mind.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 18:41:05 GMT -5
Davidson is a lefty....
I told you his thinking...
Minter, Matzek, Smith are lefties and have been getting good results....
MOR LEFTIES!!1!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 18:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 28, 2021 19:01:52 GMT -5
Davidson is a lefty.... I told you his thinking... Minter, Matzek, Smith are lefties and have been getting good results.... MOR LEFTIES!!1! Ya but Newcomb....
But he obviously has other problems with Newcomb.
I'm no Newcomb fan, I've wanted to give up on him 2-3 years ago, but the dude did have a really solid season at Gwinnett and got his walks down. He had a 1.62 ERA, his walk rate was 2.2 per nine innings and his strikeout rate was `15.1 per 9 innings. Holy hell!
Plus he's actually pitched in two playoff games in his big league career, he has a total of 8.1 innings pitched with 1 earned run, 2 hits, 3 walks and 6 strikeouts. How are these other guys a better option?
Again don't get me wrong, I would not be thrilled to see Newcomb coming into a playoff game in this series, but Davidson and Lee have such little big league experience it's crazy.
It's a "hunch" thing. Captain Poopy Pants just has a "feeling"..................
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 19:31:34 GMT -5
Davidson is a lefty.... I told you his thinking... Minter, Matzek, Smith are lefties and have been getting good results.... MOR LEFTIES!!1! Ya but Newcomb.... But he obviously has other problems with Newcomb.
I'm no Newcomb fan, I've wanted to give up on him 2-3 years ago, but the dude did have a really solid season at Gwinnett and got his walks down. He had a 1.62 ERA, his walk rate was 2.2 per nine innings and his strikeout rate was `15.1 per 9 innings. Holy hell! Plus he's actually pitched in two playoff games in his big league career, he has a total of 8.1 innings pitched with 1 earned run, 2 hits, 3 walks and 6 strikeouts. How are these other guys a better option?
Again don't get me wrong, I would not be thrilled to see Newcomb coming into a playoff game in this series, but Davidson and Lee have such little big league experience it's crazy.
It's a "hunch" thing. Captain Poopy Pants just has a "feeling"..................
Yeah.... and maybe his hunch will pay off.. Hopefully.. maybe. ...but by all sense of logic, there was a better option. If it works, Snit's supporters can claim he's a genius even though the other move would probably work out better 80 out of 100 times.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 28, 2021 19:37:17 GMT -5
I said a few weeks ago we couldn't win a championship with Snitker as our manager. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but this latest batch of decisions is a perfect example of why I feel that way. Davidson, Lee, Gore, no Rodriguez, releasing Santana. It's just mind boggling.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 28, 2021 20:17:10 GMT -5
Kevin McAlpin @kevinmcalpin Freddie Freeman, Ozzie Albies and Max Fried are all Gold Glove finalists at their respective positions. #Braves
(Not Dansby or Riley, damn?)
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Post by maverick86 on Oct 28, 2021 20:39:03 GMT -5
Our hitters didn’t make adjustments during the game. Hopefully at home, Rosario, FF & Riley can come through.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 28, 2021 21:13:22 GMT -5
Ya but Newcomb.... But he obviously has other problems with Newcomb.
I'm no Newcomb fan, I've wanted to give up on him 2-3 years ago, but the dude did have a really solid season at Gwinnett and got his walks down. He had a 1.62 ERA, his walk rate was 2.2 per nine innings and his strikeout rate was `15.1 per 9 innings. Holy hell! Plus he's actually pitched in two playoff games in his big league career, he has a total of 8.1 innings pitched with 1 earned run, 2 hits, 3 walks and 6 strikeouts. How are these other guys a better option?
Again don't get me wrong, I would not be thrilled to see Newcomb coming into a playoff game in this series, but Davidson and Lee have such little big league experience it's crazy.
It's a "hunch" thing. Captain Poopy Pants just has a "feeling"..................
Yeah.... and maybe his hunch will pay off.. Hopefully.. maybe. ...but by all sense of logic, there was a better option. If it works, Snit's supporters can claim he's a genius even though the other move would probably work out better 80 out of 100 times. Even when things work out he has usually put undo stress on everybody and we still somehow manage to overcome it.
But here's something we're up against now in these next three home games--we're almost guaranteed to run through a LOT of pitchers in the next three games, which means a lot of pinch hitting every night. And we've managed to arm our bench with one guy who is solely a pinch runner, another guy who is solely a late inning defensive replacement who has OPS'd about .500 the last half of the season (Heredia), and Arcia who has OPS'd .506 the second half and OPS'd about .600 in July and August in AAA ball. It's a pretty good bet that Fried i going to pinch hit at least twice in the next three games. Even our #1 pinch hitter (Adrianza) has struggled the last two months because he has gotten hardly any ABs.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 22:03:16 GMT -5
Well it's not like this level of managering was unexpected by everyone who hasn't had their heads buried in the sand for the past 5 years.
At home at least we'll have one of Soler, Pederson, or Duvall available to PH as well.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 28, 2021 22:23:02 GMT -5
Well it's not like this level of managering was unexpected by everyone who hasn't had their heads buried in the sand for the past 5 years. At home at least we'll have one of Soler, Pederson, or Duvall available to PH as well. It's almost assuredly going to be Joc now that he's cooled off it gives Snit the perfect chance to put him on the bench. Hopefully he'll still be able to summon some of his playoff mojo. But even at that it's just one legit pinch hitter and we're going to be using 3-5 pinch hitters per game if we're in the bullpen all the time. We have to just hope that our offense can catch fire and put up big numbers and Anderson or Wright can give us 5 or 6 innings.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 28, 2021 22:52:44 GMT -5
It's just sad though...
A 162 game season is one thing, but 5 and 7 game win or go home series really brings managering to the forefront.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 29, 2021 4:37:14 GMT -5
What I find saddest about it is the fact that he has manufactured a bullpen crisis in each series that only happened because of him. Now he's created one with the ridiculously weak bench, and I feel like he is creating one with the pitchers again by using Wright in game 2. He should start game 4 and go as deep as he can so he had no business pitching late in game 2 when it was probably out of reach. So he's creating problems just by being stupid. It's much larger than just using a player wrong here or there, he's put tremendous pressure on the pen and is likely to do it again now in this series. Exacerbated by by Morton being out now. The last thing we needed was THAT because it just makes the pitching situation that much more vulnerable. So far Matzek and Minter have bailed him out big time, as has Smith for that matter, and even Luke before he had two bad outings in a row. It doesn't take much to cost you a series. Roberts did a lot to cost the Dodgers, and I guess Snitker took it personally and was determined to not be out mis-managered in the World Series. We're already in danger of using a lot of pitchers in games 4 and 5, and I'll bet he'll have a quick hook with Anderson tonight if he gets in any trouble. He seems to think you can keep over taxing these guys with no danger of killing the geese that are laying the golden eggs.
My gripe about the bench has been not getting the guys enough ABs during the season, not getting Camargo up the least week or two to gets some ABs and think you can just throw him in the mix out of nowhere, and using a spot for Gore. But something that I've only mentioned once in passing several weeks ago is that Jason Kipnis actually had a really good season with Gwinnett. He slashed .290/.390/.518/.908 and he has not been mentioned once by anybody at any point as far as being used as a bench guy. Look at the pedigree on that guy and tell me he wouldn't have been a good option. A whole lot better than Gore if nothing else. And I don't know how many pitchers all the other teams have carried in the playoffs, I haven't paid attention, but it feels like we could have used a guy like Kipnis instead of Lee. And another thought on Kipnis, he OPS'd about .710 to .740 in the big leagues the last four years, so it's not like he's been useless........and he's a FA now. So with the season he was having in AAA, he wasn't tradable at the deadline? For anything we could get? I don't get that either. It's weird that AA makes such great moves with trades and signings, and then we also manage to miss-handle a lot of guys too in weird ways.
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