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Post by jahgentle on Nov 2, 2018 20:50:32 GMT -5
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 6, 2018 9:15:20 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 7, 2018 13:27:08 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 8, 2018 17:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 9, 2018 8:35:00 GMT -5
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 12, 2018 21:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 12, 2018 21:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2018 20:17:21 GMT -5
True faith and a personal relationship with Christ is sort of hard. There are millions and millions who claim to believe in God, but that isn't what I mean. There are millions who pray the redemption prayed and claim to believe Christ died for their sins, but that's not really what I am talking about either.
When you talk about openly sharing your faith... when you speak of the resurrection... when you speak of a real daily personal relationship and walk with Christ, even a lot of those mentioned above start to shy away and look you a bit funny.
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 14, 2018 21:52:03 GMT -5
True faith and a personal relationship with Christ is sort of hard. There are millions and millions who claim to believe in God, but that isn't what I mean. There are millions who pray the redemption prayed and claim to believe Christ died for their sins, but that's not really what I am talking about either. When you talk about openly sharing your faith... when you speak of the resurrection... when you speak of a real daily personal relationship and walk with Christ, even a lot of those mentioned above start to shy away and look you a bit funny. did you have a bad experience? I do agree with you completely. 'It's OK to believe, you should believe...just not TOO much'. lol 'Don't take it too far!' 'Don't be one of those fundamentalists!' I find even most preachers and Priests are like that and lack faith. It's almost like they are embarrassed by it and are quite worldly. They are trying to tone it down so it fits in with societies general beliefs. Many try to cram evolution into Genesis or everything is a metaphor for something, somehow,somewhere... I think it's a cheap after death life insurance policy for many just in case it's real but they don't really believe it so try to make it fit into the world. Then there is the endless arguing over denominations or scripture. sigh I don't even bother with online sites as that is all it comes down to It could be too that there are real believers that feel like they will be ridiculed or appear crazy. I've never cared about that as most people think I'm crazy anyways including my whole family. It's when you find someone that loves taking about it you know you found the real thing. When they are obsessed...when it's by far the most important thing in their lives. When their face just lights up seeing or hearing the name Jesus. Yeshua. Our Blessed Mother Mary. When you can see the total love in them at just the mention of the names. Man I love that but it's rare to find in people. I tend to spend a lot of my time reading the words of or about the saints for that reason. They believed 100% and loved Him with their whole hearts.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 14, 2018 22:39:19 GMT -5
No... I have never had what I would call a bad experience. I am blessed with the ability to not really care what anyone thinks of me.
I am just very observant and have taken notice over the years of how people react to what I see as true Christian faith. I am especially attentive to how people who claim to be Christian act towards those who display what I see as true belief.
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 15, 2018 1:11:12 GMT -5
From and interview with Father Malachi Martin in 1999 with Suzanne Peason.
During the four years before his death in 1999 it was my privilege to know Father Malachi Martin. Having listened to his interviews and read some of his books, I first sought his advice about the disconcerting changes in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Soon he offered to guide me spiritually. I then had a rather substantial interaction with him over the next four years, during which time he often spoke about Fatima.
He believed that Fatima was the most important event of the 20th Century, and that carrying out its mandate was the most urgent task facing the Church and the world. I had already noticed, listening to his interviews, that when he spoke about Fatima, he spoke with authority, as Our Lord’s contemporaries had said about His teaching.
So, during our very first telephone conversation, I said, “I get the impression that you know the Fatima Secret!” And Father Malachi said, “I do.” When we met the following week, alluding to his skepticism about the Charismatic movement, I asked him sort of kiddingly, “Did the Holy Spirit reveal the Third Secret to you?” “Oh no,” he replied. “I was shown a copy of the Third Secret at the time Pope John XXIII opened it and sought the advice of a group of Cardinals in 1960. One of those Cardinals was Augustin Cardinal Bea, and I was his assistant.”
I then ventured, “The Third Secret concerns the apostasy in the Church, doesn’t it?” This guess was based on the few scattered tidbits about Fatima that came to light during the lean years of the 70s and 80s, and on the reasoning of Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite: “The material chastisements are already predicted in the second part of the Secret.” The Third Secret predicts “a chastisement of the spiritual order.” To my surprise, Father Malachi responded: “The apostasy in the Church forms the backdrop or the context of the Third Secret. The apostasy is just beginning now. But the chastisements foretold in the Secret are very real, physical chastisements, and they are terrible!”
“We’ve Just Killed a Billion People”
He then related to me the exchange he had had with Cardinal Bea, when the Cardinal emerged from the meeting Pope John XXIII was holding with his advisors, looking pale as a sheet: “ ‘What’s wrong, Your Eminence?’ I asked him. ‘We’ve just killed a billion people.
Look at this!’ He handed me the single sheet of paper with those 25 lines of handwriting. Since that day, every word of this text has been imprinted indelibly in my mind.” Cardinal Bea had made the statement about “a billion people” because the Pope had just made the decision not to release the Third Secret, and not to consecrate Russia. I asked Father Malachi if he could tell me anything further about those “terrible” chastisements, which would kill a billion people. He explained that, before reading the Secret, he had been required to take an oath not to reveal it, but he did believe it should have been revealed, and that Our Lord and Our Lady wanted people to know about it.
Therefore, he mentioned the Third Secret whenever he could; he would talk around it, giving as much background information about it, and as many hints as he could about it, without revealing the actual text. Thus he proceeded to rattle off very quickly a list of possible calamities, and said that some of these were in the Secret.
Although the list included such things as World War III, the death of the Pope, and the Three Days of Darkness, it was not particularly enlightening, since not all the coming chastisements were on the list, and not everything on the list will be in the chastisements.
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 15, 2018 1:18:34 GMT -5
“In 1998 Martin gave a sensational interview on the Art Bell Show in which he provided a behind-the-scenes account of the Vatican and of the “war to the death” between progressivists and traditionalists. At a certain point the interviewer asked him about the Third Secret of Fatima, and the ecclesiastic, who claims that he read it precisely because of his closeness with Cardinal Bea, explained that its publication would be devastating: “It could be a shock...It could strike people in different ways. Some, if they came to know that this was really the Third Secret of Fatima, would be extremely angry.” These words leave one to think of the preannouncement of a catastrophe, but when the interviewer recalled the horrible planetary cataclysms contained in the document from Neues Europa and asked if the Secret is that traumatic, the response by Martin is: “Worse.” To the disconcerted journalist the ecclesiastic repeated: “Much worse. Look i am proceeding very cautiously. The central element of the Third Secret is terrifying and is not contained in that (in the passage you have read me.)”
More terrifying than Catastrophes.
“The interviewer then asked: “Are you telling me that what is contained in the Third Secret is more terrible that what i have just read?” “Oh yes. It is. Because what you have just read is, essentially the extermination by natural powers... It is as if nature is revolting against the human race It is substantially what happens by means of these terrible catastrophes and chastisements. And this is not the essence of the Third Secret, not that which is more terrifying.”
It would fill confessionals on Saturday night.
Confronted by the astonished exclamation of the interviewer Martin explained: “Yes. It goes beyond the imagination.” Reveal it? “It should be revealed,” “they were going to uncover it,”but “there is the problem of shock, of scandal, of terrifying people and mankind in general...I would like to be able to do it because a thing of this kind, so far as can humanly be foreseen, would give a shock, would terrify people, would fill confessionals on a Saturday night, would fill the cathedrals, the basilicas, and the churches with believers on their knees, beating the breasts.”
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 15, 2018 1:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 15, 2018 1:28:24 GMT -5
“In 1977, to celebrate the sixtieth anniversary of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima, Cardinal Albino Luciani led a group of about fifty Italians from Venice to the Cova da Iria, among whom there were about a dozen priests. They went to the Carmel of Coimbra on July 11. The Patriarch of Venice, the future Pope John Paul I, celebrated Mass in the Convent Chapel. Then, on Sister Lucy’s request, he conversed with her for almost two hours. At the end of that interview, ‘the Cardinal appeared very pale, to the extent of leaving an impression on those individuals who were present.’ The photographs taken of him a few months later, in the beginning of the year 1978, when he preached on Lent in his native land, show him again ‘with an expression which was not habitual to him, extremely serious.’ During that sojourn, his brother and sister-in-law, Edoardo and Antonietta Luciani, perceived that the Cardinal was strangely absorbed, pensive, and inscrutable. ‘One evening,’ relates Regina Kummer in her biography of John Paul I, ‘during dinner, Antonietta suddenly noticed his extreme and anguished pallor. He excused himself and without giving further explanations, he took his breviary and withdrew into his bedroom. The same thing happened the next evening. As a good hostess, she asked him if the food was the cause of his discomfort. The Cardinal answered them: I was just thinking of what Sister Lucy told me at Coimbra. Then he added: The Secret, it’s terrible.’
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Post by jahgentle on Nov 15, 2018 1:31:36 GMT -5
OCTOBER 13, 1973 "My dear daughter, listen well to what I have to say to you. You will inform your superior."
After a short silence:
"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests."
"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.
"The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them"
"With courage, speak to your superior. He will know how to encourage each one of you to pray and to accomplish works of reparation."
"It is Bishop Ito, who directs your community."
And She smiled and then said:
"You have still something to ask? Today is the last time that I will speak to you in living voice. From now on you will obey the one sent to you and your superior."
"Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary. I alone am able still to save you from the calamites which approach. Those who place their confidence in me will be saved."
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