TheFamousLeon
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Leon can't cook without that dough, baby
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Post by TheFamousLeon on Jul 1, 2021 21:50:55 GMT -5
Leon brings the good luck.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 1, 2021 21:54:37 GMT -5
I wonder why deGrom was so hell bent on that slider in the first. Granted, it was very good and got some folks to swing silly, but it just kinda felt like he was experimenting with it there that inning and it bit him in the hind end. Rest of the night he used his devastating fastball more and went on a K spree. Whatever it was he was doing, glad the braves got on him while he did it, as he was unhittable after the second inning. Both starters were excellent, how DeGrom does not have 10-12 wins is beyond me even in this era of the parade of relief pitchers De Grom will go into the HOF with maybe 125 career wins and rightfully so. I know wins are not what they used to be but I scream and pout on relievers who blow leads can be in a position to get the W, no other sport has the peculiar pitcher of record rules as we know it in baseball. I bitched about that even in the days when the SP usually got the decision The Mets have failed to score runs for him his entire career.
If he pitched for a team with a good offense he would have 35 wins every year.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 1, 2021 22:09:50 GMT -5
One piece of extreme ignorance on the part of the Mets in the 9th inning was the way they pitched Ender. The two easiest ways to get him out are the back foot breaking balls and high fastballs. The back foot breaking ball was eliminated because that pitch ends up in the dirt and they couldn't risk anything getting past the catcher. They kept trying to throw him soft breaking balls away to catch the outside of the plate when they should have just been throwing him high heat. Them farting around like that and walking him to get to Freddie was a major boner.
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 1, 2021 22:14:46 GMT -5
One piece of extreme ignorance on the part of the Mets in the 9th inning was the way they pitched Ender. The two easiest ways to get him out are the back foot breaking balls and high fastballs. The back foot breaking ball was eliminated because that pitch ends up in the dirt and they couldn't risk anything getting past the catcher. They kept trying to throw him soft breaking balls away to catch the outside of the plate when they should have just been throwing him high heat. Them farting around like that and walking him to get to Freddie was a major boner. There's a lot of stupid sheet in baseball these days. Drives me nuts.
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Post by braves247 on Jul 1, 2021 22:24:01 GMT -5
baseball needs to change these wins for relivers who blow the lead bu.... i doubt they ever will...now we need to win these next 2-3 series and be .500 by AS break
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 1, 2021 22:58:40 GMT -5
One piece of extreme ignorance on the part of the Mets in the 9th inning was the way they pitched Ender. The two easiest ways to get him out are the back foot breaking balls and high fastballs. The back foot breaking ball was eliminated because that pitch ends up in the dirt and they couldn't risk anything getting past the catcher. They kept trying to throw him soft breaking balls away to catch the outside of the plate when they should have just been throwing him high heat. Them farting around like that and walking him to get to Freddie was a major boner. There's a lot of stupid sheet in baseball these days. Drives me nuts. There is, like Lugo trying to make that throw on Heredia's swinging bunt in the 9th. You have to know instinctively as a pitcher to eat that ball, it's the bottom of the 9th and you have zero chance of getting the runner even if you were standing on your feet and trying to make that throw.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 1, 2021 23:01:41 GMT -5
Nothing much good from the Stripers tonight, Pache and Waters both 0-4 with three K's apiece, Pache's OPS is .666 and Waters is .647.
Bryse Wilson got nicked for 4 earned runs in 6 IP, gave up 3 hits and 6 BB (yikes).
Camargo 2-4 with a double and a 9th inning HR to break the shutout, .312/.410/.514/.924 now.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 1, 2021 23:42:04 GMT -5
Cardinals lose on a walkoff HR to the Rockies. The Cardinals are mediocre but the good news is every single one of their farm teams is in last place so the future doesn't look so good either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 23:44:06 GMT -5
Nothing much good from the Stripers tonight, Pache and Waters both 0-4 with three K's apiece, Pache's OPS is .666 and Waters is .647.
Bryse Wilson got nicked for 4 earned runs in 6 IP, gave up 3 hits and 6 BB (yikes).
Camargo 2-4 with a double and a 9th inning HR to break the shutout, .312/.410/.514/.924 now.
In my less than expert opinion I really believe that Wilson will become a solid back end and maybe even a number 3 guy somewhere else. When he gets the right chance and the proper coaching. And when he succeeds it will PO some of the harder core Braves faithful. As for Camargo, when will he ever be free? Lets he real, is Almonte a better overall talent than Camargo who got in our doghouse and cannot get out My guess is he will get another chance somewhere else - will he succeed I say 50/50 I do not know if we have broken him I hope not Pache and Waters, maybe two more yrs? 2023 the realistic time frame? I do not think they are that tradable right now, next yr maybe a better story. But hey, this is one happy night in a big big win and if they go on that needed run, we might look back at this series as the starting point. We beat a game De Grom pitched well in - that is something to celebrate with a Capital C Ian matched De Grom, got to love that he too should have more wins
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 23:45:25 GMT -5
Cardinals lose on a walkoff HR to the Rockies. The Cardinals are mediocre but the good news is every single one of their farm teams is in last place so the future doesn't look so good either. Mention the stinking STL Cardinals and the names that get me are Sam Holbrook and Ryan Helsley I hate em more than the Muts and LAD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 23:48:06 GMT -5
One piece of extreme ignorance on the part of the Mets in the 9th inning was the way they pitched Ender. The two easiest ways to get him out are the back foot breaking balls and high fastballs. The back foot breaking ball was eliminated because that pitch ends up in the dirt and they couldn't risk anything getting past the catcher. They kept trying to throw him soft breaking balls away to catch the outside of the plate when they should have just been throwing him high heat. Them farting around like that and walking him to get to Freddie was a major boner. There's a lot of stupid sheet in baseball these days. Drives me nuts. I am glad it was the Muts doing the stupid sheet. Good one for us Now go get em vs the Fish, we have to do better vs them only 2-4 on the yr we can do better
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 2, 2021 5:45:53 GMT -5
Well we got some luck there for a change. Luck is a part of the game...every team needs it. The Braves seem to be cashing in a bit lately on that elusive luck. I’d rather be lucky than good - Greg Maddox Yep... and we haven't had a lot of it this season
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 2, 2021 8:33:53 GMT -5
We haven't been real lucky, but we also have some pretty glaring weaknesses. We need another hitter badly, our catching is weak (one can't hit, one can't catch), and don't even get me started on the bullpen. Adding Marte and Rodriguez would be amazing, but I don't expect either of those things to happen. On the bright side, Freeman, Acuña, and GAPOZ are elite players, Dansby is decent, and Riley seems to have turned the corner.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 2, 2021 14:51:30 GMT -5
We haven't been real lucky, but we also have some pretty glaring weaknesses. We need another hitter badly, our catching is weak (one can't hit, one can't catch), and don't even get me started on the bullpen. Adding Marte and Rodriguez would be amazing, but I don't expect either of those things to happen. On the bright side, Freeman, Acuña, and GAPOZ are elite players, Dansby is decent, and Riley seems to have turned the corner. Dansby is a 1.5 WAR player. That's what his career averages out to be, and he's at 0.8 right now for this season at the halfway point according to Fangraphs. Baseball References has him at 0.1 so far this season. Meh.
It was bad enough when he was striking out 120-125 times per year. This year he has struck out 92 times already and tonight will be the exact halfway point. So he's on pace to end up somewhere between 180-200 strikeouts for the season. He's also on pace for 26 home runs......I'd much rather see him cut down his swing and focus on being a line drive and power gap hitter, I think it would work out a whole lot better for him and the team. But teh HR's is what gets the money and the ESPN time I suppose......
And despite the pace to hit 26 HR's his OPS is still just .711. When you're hitting a decent number of HRs and still have a low OPS it speaks volumes about how much you're actually contributing overall with the bat.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 2, 2021 17:37:13 GMT -5
I would work with him on keeping his head from moving around like he was a bobble head doll.
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