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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 11:42:41 GMT -5
Lol hoooooo boy. Some groups don't like it when you criticize Mr golden boy perfect hair forever guy. They turned comments off after somebody slammed him for watching that go right down the pipe. I don't know where you have been searching and not saying you are wrong, but to the credit of this group we are consistently calling out Dansby for what he is Overall I think he has had a disappointing career save for last yrs short season and that 38 games when he first came up in 2016. I think most on this board concurr with that. I hope we can draft someone who can be developed into a better player than Dansby. We are not getting one of the big time SS in FA or in trade, Braves just not built that way. No way would the powers that be allow Alex to pursue a Correra, Story or Lindor type. There is a reason why Alex pursues the one yr deal type of thing generally speaking - though I still curse that dumb Drew Smyly thing.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Jun 16, 2021 12:01:10 GMT -5
Lol hoooooo boy. Some groups don't like it when you criticize Mr golden boy perfect hair forever guy. They turned comments off after somebody slammed him for watching that go right down the pipe. I don't know where you have been searching and not saying you are wrong, but to the credit of this group we are consistently calling out Dansby for what he is Overall I think he has had a disappointing career save for last yrs short season and that 38 games when he first came up in 2016. I think most on this board concurr with that. I hope we can draft someone who can be developed into a better player than Dansby. We are not getting one of the big time SS in FA or in trade, Braves just not built that way. No way would the powers that be allow Alex to pursue a Correra, Story or Lindor type. There is a reason why Alex pursues the one yr deal type of thing generally speaking - though I still curse that dumb Drew Smyly thing. Oh yeah it's definitely not this board. It's a self righteous, praise only, no critique allowed braves FB group I was referring to. Frustration is not allowed there. This board is at the very least quite tolerant and let's you go with the good AND the bad. I don't necessarily agree with everyone on everything here, but there are folks on that FB group who just flat piss me off to no end. That group is dictatorish.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 16, 2021 12:18:08 GMT -5
Regarding Dansby....
Complaints against Dansby are exaggerated because of his perception as being a pretty boy. The issues brought up have merit, but there is an added factor because of that.
I can't tell you how many times people have complained his performance and slipped in comments about him being privileged, a golden boy, unwilling to work hard because he's always gotten whatever he wanted without having to work, his hair, etc
You know it's true... lolol
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 16, 2021 12:27:40 GMT -5
Regarding Dansby.... Complaints against Dansby are exaggerated because of his perception as being a pretty boy. The issues brought up have merit, but there is an added factor because of that. I can't tell you how many times people have complained his performance and slipped in comments about him being privileged, a golden boy, unwilling to work hard because he's always gotten whatever he wanted without having to work, his hair, etc You know it's true... lolol I’ve jokingly said those things over the years, but overall the bottom line is that he has been given a ridiculously long leash for whatever reason. If nothing else he should have done quite a bit of bench time, I actually think it slowed his progress because there was daily pressure on him during really ugly slumps that were a month or two long. A break here and there would have done him some good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:39:20 GMT -5
Regarding Dansby.... Complaints against Dansby are exaggerated because of his perception as being a pretty boy. The issues brought up have merit, but there is an added factor because of that. I can't tell you how many times people have complained his performance and slipped in comments about him being privileged, a golden boy, unwilling to work hard because he's always gotten whatever he wanted without having to work, his hair, etc You know it's true... lolol That perception is there but if he had developed into the kind of player many thought we had when he first came up, the pretty boy kind of stuff would not be an issue. We might have expected too much but when a kid is marketed as a franchise cornerstone, and they become an average player that guy will face consternation After that 2016 call up there were the Derek Jeter comparisons. In essence we expected too much Ozzie is starting to get some of the heat in part due to more expected of him. The same with Heyward who was a good player here but did not his 25-30 HRS and drive in 90 to 100 like most fans expected.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:43:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah it's definitely not this board. It's a self righteous, praise only, no critique allowed braves FB group I was referring to. Frustration is not allowed there. This board is at the very least quite tolerant and let's you go with the good AND the bad. I don't necessarily agree with everyone on everything here, but there are folks on that FB group who just flat piss me off to no end. That group is dictatorish. This board has real baseball fans - pretty solid hard core people who have a conncetion to the history of the team And to his credit our moderator is quite tolerant of all of us. He may get irritated with some of us but he does let us go within reason. Its quite free around here within reason and that is a good thing as I see it That FB group sounds like a social club. - never say any of the bad stuff cause its not nice might hurt somebody's feelings
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 16, 2021 13:59:14 GMT -5
That FB group is a bunch of snobs like bravepap.
Seriously there were some real good posters that chose to go there, I'm not sure why several of them never ended up coming here, but I do think there were a couple of people leading the whole thing that were not very tolerant of opinions that were either critical or didnt' agree with theirs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 15:31:57 GMT -5
That FB group is a bunch of snobs like bravepap.
Seriously there were some real good posters that chose to go there, I'm not sure why several of them never ended up coming here, but I do think there were a couple of people leading the whole thing that were not very tolerant of opinions that were either critical or didnt' agree with theirs.
I have never seen the FB group. I do not participate on FB or twitter - my choice for various reasons. One poster that we have not heard from in some time is the Nightman. Did not agree with him often but he did get good legit discussion started. This is the only fourm I participate in now, not that big in social media.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Jun 16, 2021 16:12:51 GMT -5
That FB group is a bunch of snobs like bravepap.
Seriously there were some real good posters that chose to go there, I'm not sure why several of them never ended up coming here, but I do think there were a couple of people leading the whole thing that were not very tolerant of opinions that were either critical or didnt' agree with theirs.
I have never seen the FB group. I do not participate on FB or twitter - my choice for various reasons. One poster that we have not heard from in some time is the Nightman. Did not agree with him often but he did get good legit discussion started. This is the only fourm I participate in now, not that big in social media. You definitely ain't missing much, and you're saving yourself a big headache that way!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 16, 2021 17:16:43 GMT -5
Regarding Dansby.... Complaints against Dansby are exaggerated because of his perception as being a pretty boy. The issues brought up have merit, but there is an added factor because of that. I can't tell you how many times people have complained his performance and slipped in comments about him being privileged, a golden boy, unwilling to work hard because he's always gotten whatever he wanted without having to work, his hair, etc You know it's true... lolol I’ve jokingly said those things over the years, but overall the bottom line is that he has been given a ridiculously long leash for whatever reason. If nothing else he should have done quite a bit of bench time, I actually think it slowed his progress because there was daily pressure on him during really ugly slumps that were a month or two long. A break here and there would have done him some good. You've called out his hair and called him a pretty boy, but I don't recall you flat out accusing him of being lazy and not working at his game because of it, and because of some feeling of entitlement and privilege. I have never blamed Dansby because he was highly touted and was a high draft pick. Those things are not his fault... nor was being called up before being ready and being made the face of the franchise. Those things are on scouting and the organization.. I don't have some extra anger towards him because of it, but some folk do.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 16, 2021 17:20:16 GMT -5
That FB group is a bunch of snobs like bravepap. Seriously there were some real good posters that chose to go there, I'm not sure why several of them never ended up coming here, but I do think there were a couple of people leading the whole thing that were not very tolerant of opinions that were either critical or didnt' agree with theirs.
I have never seen the FB group. I do not participate on FB or twitter - my choice for various reasons. One poster that we have not heard from in some time is the Nightman. Did not agree with him often but he did get good legit discussion started. This is the only fourm I participate in now, not that big in social media. I'm a bit pissed and worried about the Nightman. He changed his name to the Coronamancometh and then disappeared. I mean did the dude get the 'rona and die? Believe it or not I have some degree if concern and care about you folk I've been sharing Barves baseball with for neigh on 12 years or however long it's been. I hate not knowing what happened to him.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 16, 2021 18:02:44 GMT -5
I have never seen the FB group. I do not participate on FB or twitter - my choice for various reasons. One poster that we have not heard from in some time is the Nightman. Did not agree with him often but he did get good legit discussion started. This is the only fourm I participate in now, not that big in social media. I'm a bit pissed and worried about the Nightman. He changed his name to the Coronamancometh and then disappeared. I mean did the dude get the 'rona and die? Believe it or not I have some degree if concern and care about you folk I've been sharing Barves baseball with for neigh on 12 years or however long it's been. I hate not knowing what happened to him. I recall him being Coronaman now and I had completely forgotten about that. Damn. I was already concerned and even more so now. I think he was in his mid to late 30’s and pretty healthy. I think he went on a strict diet and workout routine 3-4 years ago and got really healthy, so I can’t imagine this flu got him, but you never know.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 16, 2021 18:05:40 GMT -5
I’ve jokingly said those things over the years, but overall the bottom line is that he has been given a ridiculously long leash for whatever reason. If nothing else he should have done quite a bit of bench time, I actually think it slowed his progress because there was daily pressure on him during really ugly slumps that were a month or two long. A break here and there would have done him some good. You've called out his hair and called him a pretty boy, but I don't recall you flat out accusing him of being lazy and not working at his game because of it, and because of some feeling of entitlement and privilege. I have never blamed Dansby because he was highly touted and was a high draft pick. Those things are not his fault... nor was being called up before being ready and being made the face of the franchise. Those things are on scouting and the organization.. I don't have some extra anger towards him because of it, but some folk do. Yeah my calling out was just joking but I’ve never questioned his ethic or desire. I’ve just never been a pretty boy fan so it’s all in fun. My mom wanted me to be a pretty boy and by the time I was 12 we had a battle on our hands. I was always the long haired rebel with a beard and scraggly look so I laugh at pretty boys.
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